In game tools to find sell location

[CMNDR peke86]

Hello,
I dont know if I descovered somthing big.. no one seams to talk about it and every time I asked in the past the answer was basacly NO !! Forum post, YT videos no one seems to know..

Can you use in game tools to find mining sell location or profitable trade routs? (And by profitable routs I mean 50k per ton profit)

The answer for me its YES and for the “actual inara market” I find beter results with my tecnique.

Before I tell I whant to see if realy no one noticed.
Sorry for being vage but im quite hiped about it!

I just started a Youtube chanel in italian and will share the information if its big

So please tell me what you know about using in game tools to find selling points.

Thank you


UPDATED

Source: https://youtu.be/5MSJZoHTCZE


Platinum and Osmium hiding in the galaxy map commodody tool
3:30 - 4.56

What everybodi knows
7:25 - 8:15

The secret that nobody knows
8:50

What you have to do
11:20 - 12:05

Trade
16:40

Why this could be better than Inara
18:55

Selling Gold and Silver at Top price
22:40

The only problem; Solution but I will see once I created a bigger market what will be the result
25:25

Strange thing.. Im probably whrong but Hawkes Gaming best trade rout doesnt seem that good after descovering the squares and triangle
29:25 - 31:15

Comparison side by side with Inara
33:05 -37:00

Conclusion
37:30

Bonus; Expeditions Mining Exploring
39:50


Once you created a big enoth market this seems realy good, plus if you are playing with friend this could be massive!!
Even the problem of Suply/Demand could be overlooked.. imagine the satisfaction of finding somthing good on your own


FINAL RESULT

Source: https://youtu.be/-u-ESpiKRok

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Yes, it's doable.

It helps to have a knowledge of which Political BGS states trigger which pricing changes in the Economic simulation, but you could probably do it even without that for some trade routes (and the in-game tools can help you to build up your knowledge of which states do what).

It's not so much that it's a big secret - the principles are all known if not necessarily all written down in one place - as that the out of game tools are almost as good and more convenient, so people generally don't want to do the extra work with the in-game tools for marginal benefits.

A good explanatory video would be valuable even so, though - go ahead and make one - and especially so for people on Legacy who don't have access to very much out of game data.

 

[CMNDR peke86]

Yes, it's doable.

It helps to have a knowledge of which Political BGS states trigger which pricing changes in the Economic simulation, but you could probably do it even without that for some trade routes (and the in-game tools can help you to build up your knowledge of which states do what).

It's not so much that it's a big secret - the principles are all known if not necessarily all written down in one place - as that the out of game tools are almost as good and more convenient, so people generally don't want to do the extra work with the in-game tools for marginal benefits.

A good explanatory video would be valuable even so, though - go ahead and make one - and especially so for people on Legacy who don't have access to very much out of game data.

Im looking for a very specific answer and this is not it.
sorry but I realy whant to see if no one noticed..
Inara told me that I can sell platinum for 220k, I found 280k location. Also with other minerals.. inara prices are very low now I find even double the price..

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Inara told me that I can sell platinum for 220k, I found 280k location

For Platinum 300k should be doable in the right circumstances (EDDB lists 293k as the best right now, so I'm surprised if Inara is only saying 220k):
- Boom + Civil Liberty as political states
- hasn't had the demand already met (which if it's not in Inara's recent data, it probably won't have)
- enough baseline demand that your sale doesn't attract bulk tax

Odyssey settlements tend to have better baseline prices, and are much less likely to be on Inara, but lower baseline demand so you might not be able to use them more than once each and you might get hit with bulk tax anyway. Can be worth a try.

 

[CMNDR peke86]

For Platinum 300k should be doable in the right circumstances (EDDB lists 293k as the best right now, so I'm surprised if Inara is only saying 220k):
- Boom + Civil Liberty as political states
- hasn't had the demand already met (which if it's not in Inara's recent data, it probably won't have)
- enough baseline demand that your sale doesn't attract bulk tax

Odyssey settlements tend to have better baseline prices, and are much less likely to be on Inara, but lower baseline demand so you might not be able to use them more than once each and you might get hit with bulk tax anyway. Can be worth a try.

Nope… its easier… dont have to look for economy, states… nope.. a lot easier.
and its not the info from station “also produced by”

 

[Northpin]

I just started a Youtube chanel in italian and will share the information if its big

so, you're not doing anything else than self-promoting?

I very much doubt you've discovered something not already long know by the trader/bgs community

Inara told me that I can sell platinum for 220k, I found 280k location

Inara will tell something that was already reported by other players.
You can definitely find good location too - if you happen to find systems with little to no traffic and having the required BGS states and high enough demand.

Anyway, Inara told me about a 280k location, recent and with good demand

Back in the days of LTD mining, there was a site that was reporting systems with the required 4x bgs states and with markets not recently updated (so not present on Inara/eddb) so players could visit them and report their pricing/demand.

 

[Riverside]

I don't do much mining for profit but I don't use any external resources just the in-game tools. Having some experience with how much a commodity can potentially be worth helps, external tools or advice from the community certainly speeds that up.

I find the galaxy map commodity filter to be pretty frustrating (it easily forgets which commodity you specify, and there are commodity filters unintuitively on both the left & right of the screen (I use the one on the right).

As stated in the OP once certainly can find better prices than external sites offer (it is possible to do so) because external sites only have access to player submitted data & it may be out of date by the time you get there. No guarantees though and I think the external data is probably a more reliable source for optimal pricing (min/maxing).

I don't min/max, I just look around locally for the best price & if it's acceptable I'll sell there (for Plat anything over 220kCr works for me for example), if there are no good prices I'll either store the cargo on my carrier or occasionally put a bit more effort into the search & look further afield.

Not much help for what the OP is looking for though, and although as Ian Doncaster says Legacy players might find a guide to the in-game tools handy, I can imagine most players using live that want to maximise their profit margins will use the player data analysis websites.

Good luck though

 

[juanopen4]

so, you're not doing anything else than self-promoting?

Why do you have to be nasty to the boy? are you promoting yourself? every day I see the same disrespectful responses from all of you, one might think that you have some obsession with trying to be in every post, tell me, are you trying to promote yourself or how is it?

Why do you feel the need to respond to all these people with such pathetic condescension? The game has changed so much since the last time I played that it couldn't really serve those old excel sheets or apps that don't even update

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Why do you have to be nasty to the boy? are you promoting yourself? every day I see the same disrespectful responses from all of you, one might think that you have some obsession with trying to be in every post, tell me, are you trying to promote yourself or how is it?

Why do you feel the need to respond to all these people with such pathetic condescension?

You think there is really a secret that has been discovered? 10:1 bet that OP will not reveal anything.

 

[juanopen4]

You think there is really a secret that has been discovered? 10:1 bet that OP will not reveal anything.

I have seen worse things said by the "experts" here, and that in experience turned out to be useless, are you also a programmer of the game? please explain to me exactly how thargoid war works,please.
And so you save answering in a few threads and and help frontier workers, they don't even seem to know how it works, a few threads, come on champion

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

I have seen worse things said by the "experts" here, and that in experience turned out to be useless, are you also a programmer of the game? please explain to me exactly how thargoid war works,please.
And so you save answering in a few threads and and help frontier workers, they don't even seem to know how it works, a few threads, come on champion

 

[juanopen4]

You think there is really a secret that has been discovered? 10:1 bet that OP will not reveal anything.

I will tell you a little story, in this forum they claimed which was the fastest way to travel between planets, they kept it for years deceiving themselves and others, I said that there was a faster way and I demonstrated it with a video.. Do you know what those experts did? guess it

 

[juanopen4]

I will tell you a little story, in this forum they claimed which was the fastest way to travel between planets, they kept it for years deceiving themselves and others, I said that there was a faster way and I demonstrated it with a video.. Do you know what those experts did? guess it

 

[SlickPBW]

In the time it takes to do an extensive investigation for the best possible selling price, one could have sold at a good profit and be well on their way toward finishing another mining load. If credits/hour is one’s motivation (sad), then factor this in.

 

[SlickPBW]

I will tell you a little story, in this forum they claimed which was the fastest way to travel between planets, they kept it for years deceiving themselves and others, I said that there was a faster way and I demonstrated it with a video.. Do you know what those experts did? guess it

Ooo. I got a secret too.

 

[juanopen4]

Ooo. I got a secret too.

what I was saying was not a secret, just something that some refused to recognize because I don't know what stories of applied physics in the videogame

 

[Mohawk_ger]

I will tell you a little story, in this forum they claimed which was the fastest way to travel between planets, they kept it for years deceiving themselves and others, I said that there was a faster way and I demonstrated it with a video.. Do you know what those experts did? guess it

And what is this mysterious travel technique? I am very interested!

The point is - the OP makes a weird riddle out of his discovery. Others explained how external and internal tools works. Overall most people, including Northpin, are very helpful to each other and no one (ok, the most players) keeps something as a secret, if it could help the community.
Also me and others doubt, that someone discovered any new game breaking mechanic, especially in a big part of the game - trading.
But if so - he will be the hero of the day, i swear!

 

[rootsrat]

I strongly suggest to:
- keep on topic
- stop with personal remarks and handbagging.

Please.

 

[Greasetrap42]

I dont know if I descovered somthing big.. no one seams to talk about it and every time I asked in the past the answer was basacly NO !! Forum post, YT videos no one seems to know..

If whatever fantastic ingame solution means that the desired info closes every time I enter/exit hyperspace then I'm not much interested.

The beauty of 3rd party tools is you can have multiple open at the same time without needing to close them or having them suddenly auto close. Its nice to be able to see multiple commodities and various destination options so its easy to intuitively figure out best route, perhaps not biggest profit per transaction but the best use of time based on buy/sell rates, distances, combining trips, and using bases you have already become super friendly with for access to better missions.

 

[Mohawk_ger]

I don't do much mining for profit but I don't use any external resources just the in-game tools. Having some experience with how much a commodity can potentially be worth helps, external tools or advice from the community certainly speeds that up.

I find the galaxy map commodity filter to be pretty frustrating (it easily forgets which commodity you specify, and there are commodity filters unintuitively on both the left & right of the screen (I use the one on the right).

As stated in the OP once certainly can find better prices than external sites offer (it is possible to do so) because external sites only have access to player submitted data & it may be out of date by the time you get there. No guarantees though and I think the external data is probably a more reliable source for optimal pricing (min/maxing).

I don't min/max, I just look around locally for the best price & if it's acceptable I'll sell there (for Plat anything over 220kCr works for me for example), if there are no good prices I'll either store the cargo on my carrier or occasionally put a bit more effort into the search & look further afield.

Not much help for what the OP is looking for though, and although as Ian Doncaster says Legacy players might find a guide to the in-game tools handy, I can imagine most players using live that want to maximise their profit margins will use the player data analysis websites.

Good luck though

Exactly, nice explained... especially the frustrating part
To add something - afaik the galaxy map shows only your own last price?! So, if you've visited the station months ago, it will still show the old, very wrong price. Correct me, if i'm wrong.