Id say it will also come at the 26. since it always has been release for the spring DLC, the week before easter.
And i really dont see a reason why it wouldnt.
Spring 2024 DLC Speculation
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And i really dont see a reason why it wouldnt.
What type of pack you reckon?
I don't think it's gonna be an animal pack by pattern. Unless it's birds with building pieces lol
Some bigger farewell pack is what id guess, well hope really.
Does the Easter pattern matter that much though? We’ve had spring releases at like April 12th for example with wetlands, and if this is a bigger pack I would think they would want as much time as possible.
If something like that, I actually had an idea.
Apart from the default, New World and Classic themes, there's like 3 other themes in the base game. What if they add 4 or 5 species in lines with each of themes, heck even with the New World and Classic themes too which would give at least 20 or so species.
Yea but the date of easter changes every years, that why some spring DLCs were released on april 12., april 4. and so on, but they always were roughly a week before easter. And since there is no clear indication that its gonna change id assume its gonna be the 26. of march this year.
The more time since bigger pack thing is a good point tho.
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Very happy for all console players. I used to be strictly a console guy as it was a cheaper option to pc gaming with a respectable pc. That all changed with PC but the pc I used at the time left much to be desired. Planet zoo changed all that as I wanted to play both planet games on high to ultra graphics. Anyway the real question is now the future of PZ? Which we’ll probably get a answer to tomorrow I’m guessing. I’m hoping for continued dlc and it’s possible with how successful PZ has been. On a safe note though the next pack will probably be the last. As for PZ legacy I still think that it’s hands down the best zoo sim ever created. Even to the hardcore zt2 fans even using all mods PZ is simply better. Definitely disappointed with the exclusion of aviary and fully aquatic animals as I feel and wish frontier could of and definitely should have gone the extra mile to include those. But oh well still a game I’ll be playing for many many more years.
Yes, those were mostly my thoughs of last week. The least I ask for a modern zoo simulation game is to allow me to simulate the average zoo. But I've never been in a zoo without bird aviaries, aquarium tanks, domestic animals area, and/or terrarium with cobras, geckos and chameleons. And I've been in dozens of zoos in different countries.
I mean, it's obviously not a promise and I'm not blaming Frontier "for my imagined future"
But with Planet Coaster they delivered a game that allowed me to recreate most of the theme and amusement parks I've ever been (the only important parts that could not be built were the water areas with slides). Somehow, that game was more flexible even if it had way less building pieces and themes. Look in the Steam workshop and you can find very crazy things.
So when Frontier releases a zoo game that doesn't allow me recreate any zoo I've ever been, I think it's fair to feel dissapointed. And if they can't even reach the bare minimum of a decades old game like both Zoo Tycoon and give us some sort of marine expansion for having some fish, or when they could give us butterflies and bats and a swan but they won't give us a single parrot, I think it makes sense talking of missed potential.
I think it was logical thinking that this game could be as good as a mix of the best things of Planet Coaster and Zoo Tycoon. But at the end, I don't know how any of us can feel fulfilled by this game when making a recreation of our favourite zoos we all end up building whole areas of aviaries with fake birds made of little pieces, an implied petting zoo, an empty aquarium building...
I'm thinking South America focus pack with either 8+5 animal pack or 8+building pieces pack
Yeah I get the part about it being a week before Easter I’m just saying that we’ve gotten breaks in patterns before like the Eurasia pack being launched on a Wednesday, and since this time if they broke the pattern it would actually work in their favour, I wouldn’t be surprised if they pushed the date.
Frontier must’ve seen the feud between SA getting another scenery or animal pack and thought “we’ll just give them both
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I've been to several zoos without aquariums.Yes, those were mostly my thoughs of last week. The least I ask for a modern zoo simulation game is to allow me to simulate the average zoo. But I've never been in a zoo without bird aviaries, aquarium tanks, domestic animals area, and/or terrarium with cobras, geckos and chameleons. And I've been in dozens of zoos in different countries.
I mean, it's obviously not a promise and I'm not blaming Frontier "for my imagined future"
But with Planet Coaster they delivered a game that allowed me to recreate most of the theme and amusement parks I've ever been (the only important parts that could not be built were the water areas with slides). Somehow, that game was more flexible even if it had way less building pieces and themes. Look in the Steam workshop and you can find very crazy things.
So when Frontier releases a zoo game that doesn't allow me recreate any zoo I've ever been, I think it's fair to feel dissapointed. And if they can't even reach the bare minimum of a decades old game like both Zoo Tycoon and give us some sort of marine expansion for having some fish, or when they could give us butterflies and bats and a swan but they won't give us a single parrot, I think it makes sense talking of missed potential.
I think it was logical thinking that this game could be as good as a mix of the best things of Planet Coaster and Zoo Tycoon. But at the end, I don't know how any of us can feel fulfilled by this game when making a recreation of our favourite zoos we all end up building whole areas of aviaries with fake birds made of little pieces, an implied petting zoo, an empty aquarium building...
I'm not devaluing your frustration in any way, but I also think it's not fair to compare Planet Coaster with Planet Zoo in this point. Maybe I'm biased, but the base idea of a theme park is rather limited. You have coasters, you have flat rides, you have whatever rides. Just the theming and focus is different.
There are SO MANY Zoo animals, that it is simply impossible to include them all. So there will always be something missing. Recreating every zoo in the world is therefore simply impossible and much more inpossible than recreating any theme park in the world.
As with birds, I gave my point of view. Comparing this with Zoo Tycoon 2 and saying they didn't reach the bare minimum is where I check out, honestly. Like... we get SO many customisation options in Planet Zoo, SO many zoo features, so many more animals, even if groups are lacking. We got animal genetics, colorations, deep added behaviour over time, exceptional graphic....
I'm sorry, but saying they didn't give us the bare minimum of a decade old game is, in this point, simply insulting to the developers in my ears. Just because they did decide to not intigrate brids and fish with looped animation. Phew... No. Just no. That's a base where a logical and respectful discussion is not possible for me anymore, sorry.
Yup I can back up that statement. Even with mods, there is a good 25% of all zoos in a region like say germany, cannot be recreated because of all the unique animals present in a wide variety of zoos especially on the smaller scale of things like exhibit box animals and that's not even considering the abundance of aquatic tanks, free flight aviaries etc. Even zoos with well established collections in planet zoo (like the NA zoos i build) will never ever see every single animal featured from very common zoo animals to the most niche primates in captivity.
And that just the animals! Don't get me started on features like free updates could bring like theme park rides, carousels, petting zoos, underwater tunnels, tiny exhibit boxes for insects and so many other things that genuinely make a zoo more than just a bunch of animals in some habitats.
You just cant complete Planet Zoo, its just not feasible with the thousands upon thousands of animals kept in captivity. Not to mention those that aint.
But you can however make Planet Zoo not feel incomplete, if that makes sense?
Idk it would be nice to look a the roster and not be like "wait where is ...?", not even specific animal species, but groups and themes. Even with aquariums and aviaries aside petting zoos, or lack there of is, is a pretty huge hole in the roster imo. Then you ofcourse have animal groups almost or completly missing like monkeys and habitat birds.
But you can however make Planet Zoo not feel incomplete, if that makes sense?
Idk it would be nice to look a the roster and not be like "wait where is ...?", not even specific animal species, but groups and themes. Even with aquariums and aviaries aside petting zoos, or lack there of is, is a pretty huge hole in the roster imo. Then you ofcourse have animal groups almost or completly missing like monkeys and habitat birds.
The Easter pattern is still there... In a way. The primary driver for that date is because it's a long weekend, boosts sales, etc. And they'll get that boost from the console edition! And much more of a bump than DLC would give them in terms of revenue.
I'm guessing we get the console edition followed by a DLC release the 3rd or 4th week of April. Would make perfect sense if the DLC is for both console and PC to build on that hype (sales base increase) and if the pack includes some of those lacking "essential" animals...
But if that's not the strategy it would still give people a bit of a "wash-out" period from console and allow them to target the DLC marketing/teases explicitly for PC. If they tried doing it before the console or on that same week I think the social media teases and announcements could get really muddled.
I personally think everyone in this thread has had really good points, and I can see where everyone is coming from. I totally understand why some people are saying "I don't feel like I can make a realistic zoo without this thing or that thing or this other thing", and I also think that there's just simply no way we're ever going to get everything everyone wants.
I agree with both sides to some extent.
For the last DLC, (if the Spring 2024 DLC ends up being the last one) all I'm hoping for is one more good pack to give the game a satisfactory sendoff. We just need a few good heavy-hitter animals that have been the most requested and a few more that go along with the theme, with some useful scenery too, and I'll be fine. I'm not expecting to get everything I've ever wanted, I just hope they fill some of the most obvious gaps in the roster and then let the game rest. All things considered, PZ has gotten a lot of content, considering the pandemic, layoffs and other issues Frontier has been slogging through over the course of the game's lifespan. I think just a little bit more content (enough to fit in one extra-large DLC) is needed to tie everything up in a nice little bow. Maybe if we're lucky we can still get a good Anniversary animal at the end of this year, to be the icing on the metaphorical cake.
I would be so delighted if we were to get another year of DLCs with all of the great stuff that people are saying the game needs, but I also like to live in the realm of reality from time to time. The simple fact is, we can lay out lengthy shopping lists of extravagant things we still think the game needs until we're all blue in the face. All of it means nothing if Frontier has already decided that they're not going to do it or they're saving it for Planet Zoo 2, when they'll hopefully have more time and resources to make a Zoo game that is as all-encompassing as possible.
I agree with both sides to some extent.
For the last DLC, (if the Spring 2024 DLC ends up being the last one) all I'm hoping for is one more good pack to give the game a satisfactory sendoff. We just need a few good heavy-hitter animals that have been the most requested and a few more that go along with the theme, with some useful scenery too, and I'll be fine. I'm not expecting to get everything I've ever wanted, I just hope they fill some of the most obvious gaps in the roster and then let the game rest. All things considered, PZ has gotten a lot of content, considering the pandemic, layoffs and other issues Frontier has been slogging through over the course of the game's lifespan. I think just a little bit more content (enough to fit in one extra-large DLC) is needed to tie everything up in a nice little bow. Maybe if we're lucky we can still get a good Anniversary animal at the end of this year, to be the icing on the metaphorical cake.
I would be so delighted if we were to get another year of DLCs with all of the great stuff that people are saying the game needs, but I also like to live in the realm of reality from time to time. The simple fact is, we can lay out lengthy shopping lists of extravagant things we still think the game needs until we're all blue in the face. All of it means nothing if Frontier has already decided that they're not going to do it or they're saving it for Planet Zoo 2, when they'll hopefully have more time and resources to make a Zoo game that is as all-encompassing as possible.
- Why are there not enough monkeys...
- Why aren't there petting zoo animals...
- Why aren't there birds...
- Why aren't there fully aquatic animals...
- Why aren't there more options to build realistic stables...
- Why aren't there carousels...
- Why is there no realistic night house option....
- Why is there not more animal interactions...
- Why is xy lacking...
And there would be an uproar if Features would be half-baked because there is such an insane amount or bugs would be skyrocket.
I understand that some gaps feel mor prevalent than others. Everyone has the right to be sad and frustrated that the game did not live up to their wildest dreams.
But here is a friendly reminder: 2018 we were all still thinking "Why is there no modern, engaging zoo game for decades now?"
From zero modern zoo game to this modern zoo game, I can't seriously complain much.
All we can hope for now is that the last pack has more than 5 animals (cause lets be honest they cannot satisfy that many people by including 4 habitat animals as the last pack) and that the animals they choose actually play a part in the roster and can improve the roster.
I love the Saiga, Quokka, Dama Gazelle and Asian Monitor but I'd be lying if I said I think these are important additions. We can't focus on what we could've had to better represent a continent or choose one animal we wish we got over another, all we can hope for now like said above, is that the last pack actually solves at least a couple problems with the roster. I really hope they try to stay away from doing "wildcards" this next pack, I dont care if an animal isn't popular enough to be included, the console sales make up for it, so add an animal that will do more to the roster even if it might not be the most appealing.
I love the Saiga, Quokka, Dama Gazelle and Asian Monitor but I'd be lying if I said I think these are important additions. We can't focus on what we could've had to better represent a continent or choose one animal we wish we got over another, all we can hope for now like said above, is that the last pack actually solves at least a couple problems with the roster. I really hope they try to stay away from doing "wildcards" this next pack, I dont care if an animal isn't popular enough to be included, the console sales make up for it, so add an animal that will do more to the roster even if it might not be the most appealing.
Wherever and with whatever the game ends I personally think the roster is amazing overall. While I cannot create the zoo of my dreams, thats due to lack of smaller flying birds. Taking that away, the roster doesn’t have many weak points, again IMO.. Some more Latin American representation, specifically a couple of primates and I think I’m good. More is always better of course in reference to content, and I have many wants but scratch the Latin primate itch and the roster had all the mammals I “need”. Even with the spectacled bear, if we dont get it I’m not going to look at the roster and let that one fact drag me down.
Hey everyone I thought I’d change gears here
I had a thought, could frontier suddenly incorporate small mammals for exhibits?
I thought I heard that they were against it at release. Perhaps a final feature would give us a bunch of exhibit mammals as a free feature?
I had a thought, could frontier suddenly incorporate small mammals for exhibits?
I thought I heard that they were against it at release. Perhaps a final feature would give us a bunch of exhibit mammals as a free feature?