Big 5

The amur leopard was defietly the obvious pick for me.
Not only is it the most common but we also already had a big spotted cat for both jungles and grasslands.

Obviously everybody can want what they want, including other leopards, but you would need some very good arguments to convince me that the amur leopard wasnt the logical and best pick for a leopard
 
Not in a DLC that's for sure, and also not for out last anniversary animal either (if we do get any at all this year). But i agree a tropical leopard should be in base game for PZ 2.
Depends how big the roster is, because jwe2 hardly got any new species, and we definitely need birds and monkeys than a tropical leopard
 
I agree but I also feel like they owe us a legitimate leopard in addition to the dlc animals. I will be just as mad if we get another leopard subspecies as one of the last dlc slots as I would be of we didnt. I just think its ridiculous to only have a leopard that hates grasslands and tropical biomes and it should have been added a long time ago, ideally in the base game
Play in sandbox with animal temperature needs turned off.
 
Depends how big the roster is, because jwe2 hardly got any new species, and we definitely need birds and monkeys than a tropical leopard
Birds and monkeys Will come in DLCs. I doubt they will add a bunch more than the ones we already have in base game.

If we don't get things like pelican secretary bird ducks etc in the next DLC for PZ 1 then they Will most likely be left for DLCs in the sequel seeing how requested they are. Specially if base game roster keeps a big part of the current roster.
 
Play in sandbox with animal temperature needs turned off.
I do play in sand box. And mainly only sand box. It just doesn't work for me visually. For starters i don't think the official amur leopard looks the best that it could, but it also doesn't look enough like a tropical leopard for me to use it as such. And the remasters only makes it look even more like the amur haha

But like i said. I'm good with mods for other leopard subspecies.
 
I can use leopard mods, but the amur leopard don't do it for me as an stand in for Indian leopards.
But even then, indian and africans are literally not found in zoos. That would be the same level of dumb as the rare breeds in the barnyard pack of other, better subspecies/breeds being right there for the taking, in this case the sri lanka leopard
 
But even then, indian and africans are literally not found in zoos. That would be the same level of dumb as the rare breeds in the barnyard pack of other, better subspecies/breeds being right there for the taking, in this case the sri lanka leopard
For Indian i meant a tropical leopard. I was just thinking that my Indian sections were lacking a leopard haha

But even then i don't care if an animal is not found in captivity. It never has been an issue for me. I mean i want things like the kakapo just because i like the animal haha

So i would like an african or Indian leopards for the same reason. I just recognize is not a priority not worth a waste of a slot in a DLC or for the anniversary.
 
Play in sandbox with animal temperature needs turned off.
I dont want to play sandbox. I really only play sandbox for testing or building if I really need the infinite budget. I really enjoy having the sense of progression and continuity from being able to transfer my animals between zoos and trade with other players online.

Like...I still enjoy the game without a leopard but Id probably still be mad (but Id definitely stop biitching) if they added a free african leopard tomorrow because of how stupid the decision was not to have it in the base game, let alone not even in any of the many dlcs it could have been in. Im mad because Frontier is stupid. Can you fix stupid?
 
For Indian i meant a tropical leopard. I was just thinking that my Indian sections were lacking a leopard haha

But even then i don't care if an animal is not found in captivity. It never has been an issue for me. I mean i want things like the kakapo just because i like the animal haha

So i would like an african or Indian leopards for the same reason. I just recognize is not a priority not worth a waste of a slot in a DLC or for the anniversary.
Indian or African would work for me because they both live in Grassland/Tropical environments so they could fill in for each other unlike the stupid siberian leopard....but yeah Id still be mad if they wasted one of the last slots on a reskin and I will be mad when they inevitably leave out the most dangerous solitary terrestrial predator in Africa.
 
Well again, why cant you just use the amur leopard?
There are exactly 3 zoos in europe and a single zoo on cuba that still keep african lions in europe and NA, so you most likly have never even seen an african leopard in a zoo, same for indian whose kept in 2 european and 0 north american zoos.
70+% of leopards in captivity are amur leopards, the rest are mostly the different chinese subspecies and a few others like the persian or srilanka leopard.
If youve never ever encounter an african ir indian leopard in a zoo, but do see lots of leopards which most likly are amur leopards, in many different themings, why would you want an african or indian leopard in game when even real zoos are substituting them in their africa and india sections with other asian leopards?
Because I only play franchise so I can keep my animals when switching zoos and amur leopards hate thorn acacias and I really need an african leopard to be happy up in that specific kind of tree because its iconic.

Real leopards irl dont care about what species their trees are because they are big dumb kitties and not botanists like all the animals in pz apparently are lol. Real animals dont even care if the plants are real as long as they have some they can eat if they are of the herbivorous persuasion.

I just dont enjoy sandbox, playing under (realistic/sensible/logical) constraints is fun for me while taking breaks to be creative at the same time and without them I just get bored. Its useful for experimenting and testing but I dint find it fun usually.
 
I do play in sand box. And mainly only sand box. It just doesn't work for me visually. For starters i don't think the official amur leopard looks the best that it could, but it also doesn't look enough like a tropical leopard for me to use it as such. And the remasters only makes it look even more like the amur haha

But like i said. I'm good with mods for other leopard subspecies.
I'm on console so mods will unfortunately not be an option for me.
 
But even then, indian and africans are literally not found in zoos. That would be the same level of dumb as the rare breeds in the barnyard pack of other, better subspecies/breeds being right there for the taking, in this case the sri lanka leopard
I literally dont care where its from as long as it likes the same biomes as a typical leopard
 
Because I only play franchise so I can keep my animals when switching zoos and amur leopards hate thorn acacias and I really need an african leopard to be happy up in that specific kind of tree because its iconic.

Real leopards irl dont care about what species their trees are because they are big dumb kitties and not botanists like all the animals in pz apparently are lol. Real animals dont even care if the plants are real as long as they have some they can eat if they are of the herbivorous persuasion.

I just dont enjoy sandbox, playing under (realistic/sensible/logical) constraints is fun for me while taking breaks to be creative at the same time and without them I just get bored. Its useful for experimenting and testing but I dint find it fun usually.
Theres no issue in putting the amur leopard in franchise into an african themed enclosure. You can controll the heat with coolers and the vegetation has next to no effect on animal happyness, its just very misleading tbh. Just put the animal on a higher food quality and you completly outdone the few percent malus from the foliage and even get some to spare
 
Theres no issue in putting the amur leopard in franchise into an african themed enclosure. You can controll the heat with coolers and the vegetation has next to no effect on animal happyness, its just very misleading tbh. Just put the animal on a higher food quality and you completly outdone the few percent malus from the foliage and even get some to spare
Vegetation definitely lowers their welfare. My lemurs are at like 99% because I put one baobab tree in their heavily foliated enclosure which they hate even though most species are native to madagascar and the model in the game counts as both of the other species of baobab...also lets not even go into the Ringtailed Lemurs real biome....like I know as much about plants as I do about animals so I cant just throw whatever trees in their and call it a day...lol you have no idea how many compromises Im making on plant species in this game already :,) ....some regions are just absolutely unrecognizable to me because of the lack of available plants that actually grow in the region (fyi the zoopedia is a liar when it comes to plants)
 
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Amur leopards in a rushed african habitat (in Africa) only with african savannah vegetation and the default temperature, as you can see, the welfare is still in 90% even with the temperature being to hot and none of the plants being compatible with Siberia. the change is so little that the leopards are still happy and can reproduce normally as proven here:
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it's also worth to mention that if the temperature is fixed the animals will have a 99% wellfare and hence being almost perfect.

So again: there's nothing stopping none of you guys to use Amur as a placehold to African.
 
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