DLC18 discussion and predictions

[yoav_r]

looking at the ratios of habitat animals per continent

we have
59 african 27.2%
59 asian 27.2%
31 north american 14.3%
25 european 11.5%
22 south american 9.7%
21 oceanic 10.1%

this paints a very interesting picture since a majority of people will comfortably say both europe and oceania are well represented / over represented but also say south america has been shafted in the roster but by pure volume they are pretty even and have been for a while. It is also interesting to see people are starting to complain about the african heavy roster but also not mentioning its tied with asia and asia mainly east asia is still the primary non south american region people say is the weakest

also south america has over a quarter of all exhibit animals in the game.

Europe and Oceania are a lot less diverse in terms of "habitat zoo animals" than South America. Also several of the South American species are technicalities (Galapagos tortoise, King penguin, Raccoon) or duplicates (Caimans) which artificially inflate the species count.

Alsi, the difference between Asia and Africa is that Africa has less biogeographical diversity so it's more noticeable. People lump the gorilla and lion together because they share distribution, but they don't consider the Panda, Dromedary, Red deer, Wolverine and Komodo Dragon as "from the same region".

 

[PeppyPepp]

I think an announcement of the pack and update will come this week, and the relase next week. I'm not sure when they'll drop the anniversary update, but they did say it'll be sooner (they don't want to "overlap" PZ anniversary which is on the 5th of November with the release of PC2 which is on the 6th). We will have both the DLC and the anniversary update before the end of October.

 

[Tinou97]

Random question but what is yalls favorite theme category for packs? Biome/habitat based, location based or miscellaneous themes?

My favorite themes are the continent/region based packs because all my zoos are divided based on that. I think Frontier did a great job there but I would have definitely pushed it further with more sub-parts of some continents, especially for Asia because they focused a lot on S-E Asia but they could do great things with East Asia and India too.
I also like the biome based DLCs because they can fill up the gaps for some part of the world that would be difficult to fill with a dedicated pack (for example the Caribbean which could be more represented through an Island pack).

My least favorite ideas of pack (and I emphasis on the word "idea" because in the end Frontier still did a great job) are the ones like Conservation or Twilight.

 

[Marvinb]

My favorite themes are the continent/region based packs because all my zoos are divided based on that. I think Frontier did a great job there but I would have definitely pushed it further with more sub-parts of some continents, especially for Asia because they focused a lot on S-E Asia but they could do great things with East Asia and India too.
I also like the biome based DLCs because they can fill up the gaps for some part of the world that would be difficult to fill with a dedicated pack (for example the Caribbean which could be more represented through an Island pack).

My least favorite ideas of pack (and I emphasis on the word "idea" because in the end Frontier still did a great job) are the ones like Conservation or Twilight.

Yeah india and east asia could honestly each use a dedicated animal pack

 

[nutrit]

Yeah india and east asia could honestly each use a dedicated animal pack

Amen to that

 

[SanRazo]

Listen regional packs are so important. I mean North America went from lacking to good in one pack. But the variety biome packs are great from the perspective I can just add to all the areas of my zoo at once. Idk I’m still gonna say regional for the job they do (even though they leave out other places for a couple of months)

 

[Marvinb]

Listen regional packs are so important. I mean North America went from lacking to good in one pack. But the variety biome packs are great from the perspective I can just add to all the areas of my zoo at once. Idk I’m still gonna say regional for the job they do (even though they leave out other places for a couple of months)

Yeah thats also one of the big drawbacks of regional packs: it can take ages at times to get something for specific continents

 

[Villanelle]

You don’t have to be a bro to be a bro, sis.

Look, I'm sure nothing was meant by it but I don't like it. I'm not a bro and I'm definitely not your sis. You just don't need to gender people, it's rude.

 

[NZFanatic]

According to the current discussion, we can reach 800 by the official release date.

Why is this so important to you? Meandering discussion is not an achievement.

 

[USzoofan42]

Funny how most people would want muskox over walrus... I really don't get the muskox hype.
We already have the highland cow that's basically the same thing

Also musk ox is barely in captivity with 20 in Europe and 7 in NA and just one location in mainland US. There is only 27 holdings worldwide.

 

[NZFanatic]

We already have the highland cow that's basically the same thing

No. No it is not. Not even slightly. They're not even part of the same family.

 

[Mjmannella]

No. No it is not. Not even slightly. They're not even part of the same family.

Muskoxen and cattle actually are part of the bovidae family (which makes them both antelope by extension). But they do serve completely separate roles in zoos so comparing them is rather fraught.

 

[Cooper_yang]

Why is this so important to you? Meandering discussion is not an achievement.

Did I say this is important to me? Did the word "important" appear in my sentence? Don't speculate on other people's meanings. I am just expressing it simply. If you think that the discussions these days are "Meandering discussions", you can just not participate. No one forces you to do so. You can express your attitude through practical actions.

 

[CharlieXGaming]

Funny how most people would want muskox over walrus... I really don't get the muskox hype.

Don’t worry I don’t want either of them

 

[Villanelle]

Don’t worry I don’t want either of them

Ha same. No hate to the walrus, just not interested personally.

 

[USzoofan42]

A musk ox should be the least of our worries it’s an unnecessary pick imo.

 

[RightWhale]

Yeah thats also one of the big drawbacks of regional packs: it can take ages at times to get something for specific continents

I’m still waiting for any bird species for NA. North America was even revisited in the twilight pack, and with the peccary. Still no whooping crane, no turkey, no roseate spoonbill, no Caribbean flamingos, no ducks, nothing.

Still waiting almost 3 years later, no bird ……

 

[Marvinb]

Walrus and musk ox really depend on how many packs we have left, so its a priority thing for me.
They are both cool and really iconic animals, but imo they are far from must haves in a zoo game and there are alot of animals id rank higher than them on a priority list.
Still, i think there is potential for making a pretty cool pack around these two, throw in a gentoo penguin and arctic hare and you have a pretty cool base for a pack.

 

[Captain Callum]

We already have the highland cow that's basically the same thing

This gives me immeasurable pain on every level. I don't know how one can even come to that conclusion, the Scottish Highlands are absolutely no way near the arctic.

 

[RightWhale]

Walrus and musk ox really depend on how many packs we have left, so its a priority thing for me.
They are both cool and really iconic animals, but imo they are far from must haves in a zoo game and there are alot of animals id rank higher than them on a priority list.
Still, i think there is potential for making a pretty cool pack around these two, throw in a gentoo penguin and arctic hare and you have a pretty cool base for a pack.

Yeah throw in a puffin and that makes for a fantastic pack.

1. Walrus
2. Muskox
3. Arctic hare
4. Puffin
5. Gentoo penguin
6. ???????
7. ???????
8. Exhibit: wood frog?

I’m down if anyone else is