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[CMDR Lefty Jackson]

You should be able to make an easy 50 million an hour mining platinum in Paesia using an Asp, so a Python should be achievable in two hours. Here's an Asp build I'd use for that. You don't need a DSS for the haz RES in Paesia. Don't worry about the pirates. They're quite cooperative when you get to know them: https://s.orbis.zone/qMhl

Here's an old instruction I made on how to mine in Paesia. It's all common sense really - no special skill needed:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTNTGYVy4nk

(haz RES? what is that?) EDIT: Hazardous Resource site. Yeah, I don't mine that way, I scan for the hotspots. Doesn't seem logical to put myself at higher risk when I can mine with minimum risk.

Interesting. I'd like to know how you can make "easy 50 million an hour" with a build that holds only 96T.

I have almost the same build, with Cargo Racks the exact same. Not sure how you are able to mine in an hour that much.

Also, is your buyer within the same system? Mine is, no jumps needed and I almost always get 217,000 per unit. I had one time last week they were loaded and price was way down to 187,000. Next time it was back to 217. The highest price I've seen is around 240,000 at other buyers.

 

[Hugh Jardon]

(haz RES? what is that?) EDIT: Hazardous Resource site. Yeah, I don't mine that way, I scan for the hotspots. Doesn't seem logical to put myself at higher risk when I can mine with minimum risk.

Interesting. I'd like to know how you can make "easy 50 million an hour" with a build that holds only 96T.

I have almost the same build, with Cargo Racks the exact same. Not sure how you are able to mine in an hour that much.

Also, is your buyer within the same system? Mine is, no jumps needed and I almost always get 217,000 per unit. I had one time last week they were loaded and price was way down to 187,000. Next time it was back to 217. The highest price I've seen is around 240,000 at other buyers.

I wouldn't tell you that if it weren't true. I could beat 60 million per hour using a Type 6 with only 84T and 2 class 1 lasers, when conditions are right. Return trip time for mining and selling is now about 23 minutes with a T6. An Asp mines 25% quicker because of its bigger PD and has 20% more cargo, so the return trip would be around 22 minutes, selling to a fleet carrier or a station in the system.

You can normally sell the platinum in Paesia for a good price. I'm not sure if PP2.0 has messed that up by crashing the market. Last time I checked, it was around 55k, but that might be just temporary. You can often find fleet carriers there that offer a good price (around 230K).

I provided an attached video instruction in my previous post that included evidence. Presumably, you didn't watch it.

Using the the same techniques, you can average around 120 mil/hr using a Python. They said that couldn't be done, so I made a video proving it, which you can find in my channel, and you can see that I don't have any special skill or technique, just normal mining. In fact, all those results were before we had SCO FSD's, so they should be higher now.

 

[CMDR Lefty Jackson]

I wouldn't tell you that if it weren't true. I could beat 60 million per hour using a Type 6 with only 84T and 2 class 1 lasers, when conditions are right. Return trip time for mining and selling is now about 23 minutes with a T6. An Asp mines 25% quicker because of its bigger PD and has 20% more cargo, so the return trip would be around 22 minutes, selling to a fleet carrier or a station in the system.

You can normally sell the platinum in Paesia for a good price. I'm not sure if PP2.0 has messed that up by crashing the market. Last time I checked, it was around 55k, but that might be just temporary. You can often find fleet carriers there that offer a good price (around 230K).

I provided an attached video instruction in my previous post that included evidence. Presumably, you didn't watch it.

Using the the same techniques, you can average around 120 mil/hr using a Python. They said that couldn't be done, so I made a video proving it, which you can find in my channel, and you can see that I don't have any special skill or technique, just normal mining. In fact, all those results were before we had SCO FSD's, so they should be higher now.

I'm not questioning it because I think your lying, it's because I want to know how the heck you can do it because it doesn't make sense to me in my experience. It takes me longer than an hour to get a full load, well, up to about 85-90T. The trip to the buyer is short, about 3k Ls. Yes, I could find a higher price somewhere else, but I'd have to leave the system I'm mining in, so I prefer to take a little less for the convenience of staying in the same system.

I did watch the video, at least about half of it.

I really didn't care to watch a whole video on mining just to see the part about your ASP build. Most of the video I already know about. Using a Multi-Limpet was new to me, I think I'll give that a go simply because they apparently don't time out/are infinite versus the 3A I use which last I think 720 seconds.

The time difference in part is in how long you can use the lasers. I do change the Pips to weapons, but I can't run them that long before it runs out of power and has to recharge. Not sure how you're doing that.

I guess where I'm confused is in how much you claim to be getting out of the same load, around 90T. Math doesn't seem to work out unless you are getting a massively higher price per load. How long it takes is secondary, but it does take me quite a bit longer than an hour to get to the mining spot, mine, then go sell the load that I get maybe 18 million at 217,000 per ton. Does your video explain how you can do such volume so fast for that amount of CR?

90T at 230,000? That is only 20 million. Not even close to 50 million. Are you claiming more than one load per hour? I'm missing something.

Maybe I'm just dense and not understanding what you are doing that is so different. I assure you, I'd love to get 50 million an hour in my ASP!

Maybe the the haz Rez site is richer so you don't have to search as much, thus it takes less time? Whatever the case, I'm not mining in that location, the risk just isn't worth it to me. Where I'm at, I've been scanned only when returning with a load, a couple of times. I've never been scanned when at the mining site.

EDIT>>> I watched some of the "Part 2" and now I see how you mine faster..." Modified Mining Laser". Now I see the difference. I initially didn't realize that the relevant info was in the Part 2 video. With those lasers, I can see doing two runs an hour, which would indeed be around 40 million an hour.

 

[Hugh Jardon]

I'm not questioning it because I think your lying, it's because I want to know how the heck you can do it because it doesn't make sense to me in my experience. It takes me longer than an hour to get a full load, well, up to about 85-90T. The trip to the buyer is short, about 3k Ls. Yes, I could find a higher price somewhere else, but I'd have to leave the system I'm mining in, so I prefer to take a little less for the convenience of staying in the same system.

I did watch the video, at least about half of it.

I really didn't care to watch a whole video on mining just to see the part about your ASP build. Most of the video I already know about. Using a Multi-Limpet was new to me, I think I'll give that a go simply because they apparently don't time out/are infinite versus the 3A I use which last I think 720 seconds.

The time difference in part is in how long you can use the lasers. I do change the Pips to weapons, but I can't run them that long before it runs out of power and has to recharge. Not sure how you're doing that.

I guess where I'm confused is in how much you claim to be getting out of the same load, around 90T. Math doesn't seem to work out unless you are getting a massively higher price per load. How long it takes is secondary, but it does take me quite a bit longer than an hour to get to the mining spot, mine, then go sell the load that I get maybe 18 million at 217,000 per ton. Does your video explain how you can do such volume so fast for that amount of CR?

90T at 230,000? That is only 20 million. Not even close to 50 million. Are you claiming more than one load per hour? I'm missing something.

Maybe I'm just dense and not understanding what you are doing that is so different. I assure you, I'd love to get 50 million an hour in my ASP!

Maybe the the haz Rez site is richer so you don't have to search as much, thus it takes less time? Whatever the case, I'm not mining in that location, the risk just isn't worth it to me. Where I'm at, I've been scanned only when returning with a load, a couple of times. I've never been scanned when at the mining site.

EDIT>>> I watched some of the "Part 2" and now I see how you mine faster..." Modified Mining Laser". Now I see the difference. I initially didn't realize that the relevant info was in the Part 2 video. With those lasers, I can see doing two runs an hour, which would indeed be around 40 million an hour.

Dear oh dear! what's the matter with you? You haven't mined in Paesia. You didn't watch my instruction video that shows the rate of earning and you don't want to mine in a haz RES because you think it's too dangerous even though I gave you an instruction on how to do it safely with actual examples of pirate interactions, then you call me a liar because you can't achieve the same with your method. Really??? Don't you realise that I'm trying to help you. If you don't want to change anything, good luck.

Actually, this is not the first time I've been through this. Last time, they said I was lying when I said I could easily make 100 mil/hr using a Python, so I made video evidence, which soon shut them up. Here it is showing 118 mil/hr with a sub-optimal build and without an SCO. See how easy it is - no bother from pirates, no rushing and no preparation. A python can mine about about double the rate of an Asp and it carries double the cargo, so overall, it'll earn approximately double what an Asp would get:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EREM_S4OxYc&t=376s

 

[CMDR Lefty Jackson]

Dear oh dear! what's the matter with you? You haven't mined in Paesia. You didn't watch my instruction video that shows the rate of earning and you don't want to mine in a haz RES because you think it's too dangerous even though I gave you an instruction on how to do it safely with actual examples of pirate interactions, then you call me a liar because you can't achieve the same with your method. Really??? Don't you realise that I'm trying to help you. If you don't want to change anything, good luck.

Now hang on there. No reason for you to get all bent! Did you not read the last paragraph?

You know, the part where it says "EDIT" and I acknowledge that your claim is, in fact, true? I also explained how it was that I didn't initially understand what you were doing. I admitted more than once that I had misunderstood something. Did I not? Why, yes I did.

And I did not call you a liar. Have you been drinking or something?

You didn't make it too clear where the important part of your video was, no mention of a Part 2 video, you just posted a link to Part 1. I guess wanting me to view your wonderful display of talent, when all I really needed was that you use a special mining laser that I was not even aware existed.

And now you toss up yet another video link, unrelated no less, and make multiple false claims about me. Cute.

Listen, good on you for doing the videos and offering advice. Might I suggest you try a little harder to be clear when providing answers? YOU could have been a bit more clear on your response.

YOUR WAY is not THE way.

You do understand that some people don't care to mine in the areas you mine? I did in fact, contrary to your false claim, watch the interdiction examples. And I have told you twice I don't care for the added risks, I have not said one time that I think it too dangerous! That is an exaggeration at best. I said I mine just as good an area without the hassle of pirates.

Seriously, your video has one segment where a freakin' pirate ship literally bumps into your ship when dealing with another pirate ship! And you want me to mine in an environment like that when I don't have to? That's really strange!

I could not achieve that same volume because you didn't bother to mention the SPECIAL MINING LASERS. You withheld information that you could have mentioned in your post, but no, you left it to be discovered in a video you didn't even provide a link to!

People offering advice, only to get all twisted and make false claims and accusations is why I generally avoid these forums. So many here act like arrogant pricks to be honest.

In summation, you made, let's see, a total of three false claims against me because you got offended that I didn't bow to your awesome expertise...

1) Claimed I called you a liar, which I did not.
2) Claimed I didn't watch your video, which I did, and said how much I watched, of two different videos!
3) You claim I think your area is "too dangerous", which I never said that. I said, "not worth the risk" when compared to where I mine. There is no such risks where I mine.

And now you are posting another video so you can toot your own horn about how awesome you are. That's special.

A decent human being would acknowledge the truth instead of trying to spin it. All I did was ask how you do it. YOU are the one who offered up advice, I never asked you for anything. YOU chose to step forward on your own, and now you are getting all butthurt that I didn't just take your words of wisdom without question? Wow.

Do I have to mine in your chosen area? Nope.
Do I have to use the same ship as you? Nope.
Do I have to use the same buyers you use? Nope.

The one thing I DO have to do to match what you are doing is use the "Modified Mining Laser".

Sooo, basically, you are able to do it by a method that is not standard, it's a special tactic that takes special effort to obtain. It is not an "off the shelf" method. Can you at least admit that? I doubt it. Ego is funny like that!

Thanks for the info. Have a wonderful day, Commander.

 

[Hugh Jardon]

And I did not call you a liar. Have you been drinking or something?

I'm not questioning it because I think your lying

Your opening statement says "because I think you're lying". I rest my case!

 

[Vlad plus]

What system would be the best 'homebase'?

Brestla --> i Sola Prospect All equipment and ships available in the game in one place

 

[aRJay]

Your opening statement says "because I think you're lying". I rest my case!

His statement in part was

I'm not questioning it because I think your lying, it's because I want to know how the heck you can do it

Which specifically says not questioning you because lying but because they wanted to know more.

You are quoting out of context. A very shoddy thing to do.

 

[Hugh Jardon]

His statement in part was

Which specifically says not questioning you because lying but because they wanted to know more.

You are quoting out of context. A very shoddy thing to do.

OK, thanks. I get it now. Apologies to Commander Lefty Jackson.

 

[CMDR Lefty Jackson]

My apologies to the rest here for the topic getting off track. Good info did come up in the conversation, however, this is about a best home base.

I'm too inexperienced to speak at any length, but what little I have I can say a "home base" seems to be almost impossible due to things being so fluid in the game. I too wanted a home base to work out of but realized things change and that takes me to other areas for periods of time and I end up making a bunch of temporary home bases, or really extended stay hotel rooms!

So, a "home base" is a cool idea, and you can generally work out of a location but if you are doing various things, you find that you end up in many locations, making one base a bit unrealistic. We can transfer items to the locations we are at, if not, a home base would be basically required. Instead, we have freedom to move around, which I think is the better way to go.

 

[CMDR Lefty Jackson]

Brestla --> i Sola Prospect All equipment and ships available in the game in one place

Oh really? That's a downside to where I'm currently working out of with limited ships, and upgrades. It's been a short trip to other locations for a few things, but more selections would be nice seeing where I am will be a longer-term effort at mining lots of cash.

The upside is that I can't just pop into the store and go on a spending spree! So it does help with money management.

 

[metatheurgist]

iSola Prospect does a 20% markup though.

 

[Vlad plus]

iSola Prospect does a 20% markup though.

everything is true, but considering that FD devalued the Cr , this is not important

 

[nanothargon]

Brestla --> i Sola Prospect All equipment and ships available in the game in one place

This is the way. Until you have access to Shinrarta Dezhra, this is the best option, that lets you try out all the toys in the game.
A good alternative since the powerplay update would be to pledge to a power and pick a system with a stronghold carrier. Lots of modules and you’ll advance quicker in powerplay.