DLC 19 Speculation

[Villanelle]

I wouldn't call Latin America problematic at all, but maybe weird because the term is tied with people and culture rather than geography or wildlife, which would stand out compared to previous DLCs

I agree...it does conveniently cover all the right areas though!

I guess simply 'Americas' is possible? Maybe that's the best bet.

 

[DarthQuell]

Old and New World are (to my knowledge) incomplete terms.

If I recall correctly, New World is Americas only, while Old World is even more limited to Europe, parts of Asia (Middle East, India, China) and parts of Africa (mainly North, but also parts of West and Wast Africa).

South Africa, Southeast Asia, Antarctica and mainly Oceania and Australia "don't belong" to either of those two terms.

I think it's more the general idea, though. Oceania represents Australia and the surrounding islands, correct? But a lot of people just call the whole area Australia (correct me if I'm wrong. Honestly, I'm not up to date with the latest trends and whatnot. Lol, smiley face, hashtag [who says hashtag?! I still call it the pound key])

That's why I think Mesoamerican or Latin America would work. These animals seem to be linked to those countries, even if they aren't the 1st ones you think of

 

[Mr-Hyrax 2]

Was mentioned by someone else a few posts up so I was joining in an already present disscsuion

But that's not what I asked, I ment where you put this new pack in your dlc ranking if the final 2 slots where coati and Mara.

 

[Milurian]

Are there red jungle fowl in zoos? And how different really would they be from chickens?

They arent really that different from chickens but they are in zoos there are some free roaming in the south east asia section at my local zoo

 

[Markiz]

Don't they? In terms of wine they do, but due to its colonnial history and lens old/new world is terminology that even the wine industry is phasing out.

Yes, term has different usages in different "spaces". Here's from Wikipedia, specifically about the Wine:

In wine terminology, "New World" uses a particular definition. "New World wines" include not only North American and South American wines, but also those from South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and all other locations outside the traditional wine-growing regions of Europe, North Africa and the Near East.

I think it's more the general idea, though.

Completely understandable

That's why I think Mesoamerican or Latin America would work. These animals seem to be linked to those countries, even if they aren't the 1st ones you think of

Mesoamerica wouldn't work again, sorry It refers to Central America, and Rhea and Saki disqualify that name

I agree...it does conveniently cover all the right areas though!

I guess simply 'Americas' is possible? Maybe that's the best bet.

That's what I think. Americas, America, American...something along those lines

 

[Milurian]

But that's not what I asked, I ment where you put this new pack in your dlc ranking if the final 2 slots where coati and Mara.

I knew I forgot something it was supposed to be between southeast asia and twilight

 

[DarthQuell]

Mesoamerica wouldn't work again, sorry It refers to Central America, and Rhea and Saki disqualify that name

Wait, I thought Mesoamerica referred to the indigenous people from Latin America, like the Maya and the Inca

 

[Milurian]

Don't they? In terms of wine they do, but due to its colonnial history and lens old/new world is terminology that even the wine industry is phasing out.

There was stuff and people there before Europeans arrived...

I know I'm repeating myself as this has come up before but I really doubt PZ would do an Old/New world pack, not only because the language is dated but also it seems like a lazy idea to me. Not a focused idea.

Wine doesnt include them but in general south africa is mostly old world animals anyway so doesnt matter in this context same with south east asia. Australia it really depends on who you ask and im my opinion it does not meet any of the criteria for being new world besides being found by white people late with most of its animal and plant branches being old world in nature aside from marsupials which are essentially the old world equivalent.
Antartica and oceania are completely irrelevant since they dont have either the history or animal comparisons however if the auk was still alive theri could be an argument for old / new world penguins.

 

[synthetase]

But that's not what I asked, I ment where you put this new pack in your dlc ranking if the final 2 slots where coati and Mara.

Above Grasslands.

 

[Markiz]

Wait, I thought Mesoamerica referred to the indigenous people from Latin America, like the Maya and the Inca

Not all. Certainly could apply to Mayans and Aztecs. They were Mesoamericans.

Incas on the other hand were "fully South American".

But Meso is just Greek word for middle/in between (Mesopotamia). It's just another word for Central America

 

[Mr-Hyrax 2]

While I could give a idea for a India pack, I want to do a different region, so I got a idea

Congo Animal Pack
Mantled Geruza
Yellow-Backed Duiker
Nile Crocodile
Waterbuck
De Braza's Monkey
Rock Hyrax
White-Faced Whistling Duck

 

[Milurian]

I think it's more the general idea, though. Oceania represents Australia and the surrounding islands, correct? But a lot of people just call the whole area Australia (correct me if I'm wrong. Honestly, I'm not up to date with the latest trends and whatnot. Lol, smiley face, hashtag [who says hashtag?! I still call it the pound key])

That's why I think Mesoamerican or Latin America would work. These animals seem to be linked to those countries, even if they aren't the 1st ones you think of

oceania is a catch all term that includes all of the pacific islands australia new zealand and papua it is pretty useless biogeographically most people just seperating the islands as oceania and leave australia as its own thing anyways.
The better term is australasia which includes sahul (australia and papua) new zealand which I somewhat disagree with and Melanesia.
The rest of the pacific islands like polynesia and micronesia are functionally both their own terrestrial and oceanic biogeographic realm sharing very little with australia that it doesnt also share with asia. New zealand technically is its own continent and is just as functionally independent as the pacific islands but is still included in most models.

 

[Marvinb]

But that's not what I asked, I ment where you put this new pack in your dlc ranking if the final 2 slots where coati and Mara.

Hard to say as what the scenery pieces are could also have a decent influence for me.
So for purpose of this lets just assume its indeed a saki, the last 2 are coati and mara and the pieces are about average.
Then id say it would go something in the 6.-8. range. But for the final verdict i would need to actually have the pack in hand so to speak

 

[synthetase]

While I could give a idea for a India pack, I want to do a different region, so I got a idea

Congo Animal Pack
Mantled Geruza
Yellow-Backed Duiker
Nile Crocodile
Waterbuck
De Braza's Monkey
Rock Hyrax
White-Faced Whistling Duck

Serengeti Animal Pack

• Vervet Monkey
• Aardwolf/Bat-eared Fox
• Masai Giraffe
• Banded Mongoose
• Secretary Bird
• Egyptian Goose
• Vulturine Guineafowl

 

[DarthQuell]

Not all. Certainly could apply to Mayans and Aztecs. They were Mesoamericans.

Incas on the other hand were "fully South American".

But Meso is just Greek word for middle/in between (Mesopotamia). It's just another word for Central America

oceania is a catch all term that includes all of the pacific islands australia new zealand and papua it is pretty useless biogeographically most people just seperating the islands as oceania and leave australia as its own thing anyways.
The better term is australasia which includes sahul (australia and papua) new zealand which I somewhat disagree with and Melanesia.
The rest of the pacific islands like polynesia and micronesia are functionally both their own terrestrial and oceanic biogeographic realm sharing very little with australia that it doesnt also share with asia. New zealand technically is its own continent and is just as functionally independent as the pacific islands but is still included in most models.

Well there we go. You learn something new every day. Ok, good to know

 

[Cynogale bennettii II]

To make my own version of a Congo Animal Pack, albeit with a wider remit, here is my idea for an 'African Jungles Animal Pack':

1. De Brazza's guenon
2. Eastern helmeted guineafowl
3. Golden-bellied mangabey
4. Royal antelope
5. Western cusimanse
6. Western slender-snouted crocodile
7. Yellow-backed duiker

This would provide species from several regions - the Congo (both primates and the duiker), Guinean rainforest (royal antelope, cusimanse, crocodile and the duiker again) and East African coastal rainforest (the guineafowl).

 

[Markiz]

To make my own version of a Congo Animal Pack, albeit with a wider remit, here is my idea for an 'African Jungles Animal Pack':

1. De Brazza's guenon
2. Eastern helmeted guineafowl
3. Golden-bellied mangabey
4. Royal antelope
5. Western cusimanse
6. Western slender-snouted crocodile
7. Yellow-backed duiker

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This would provide species from several regions - the Congo (both primates and the duiker), Guinean rainforest (royal antelope, cusimanse, crocodile and the duiker again) and East African coastal rainforest (the guineafowl).

Cusimanse is an underrated pick. Always full support for any pack with De Brazza's monkeys

 

[Fallax]

Probably a hot take but if we got the roadrunner alongside the coyote I would be hyped. Awesome little fellas.

 

[Bughs]

Probably a hot take but if we got the roadrunner alongside the coyote I would be hyped. Awesome little fellas.

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I'd say Coyote MUST go together with Roadrunner xDDD we'll see.

 

[Bughs]

When do you think we get teaser trailer and when they start showing pictures? Next week or next next week? They said DLC would come out half of the April?