You really should. It's an amazing game!
Colonization seems to have destroyed the frontier
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Nothing in the reviews and description inspired me to try it.
... but then , I'm one of the idiots who pre-ordered CP2077 when it was being marketed as a RPG
As only one player can setup colonies, the system owner, that's a distinction without merit
Both are amazing IMO! Worth experiencing fully at least once.
But yea if you're looking for a true RPG those are unfortunately a dying (dead?) breed of games.
2 more years!Don't feel bad i backed SC
O7
Yeah... It was 2 years when I paid for it 6 years ago... But allegedly Sq42 is coming real soon!
My hopes lie in Ashes of Creation to give me those "feels" I haven't had since WoW ages ago....
Someone mentioned RDR (is that the correct abbreviation?). I put the historical frontier together with chain systems and thought to myself:
The "useless" chain systems could be likened to oasis' of habitation along a settler trail. Places to stop, rest, resupply before moving further along the trail to get closer to the desired location. Once the waves of settlers dries up, the chain systems will become the ghost towns along the trail.
I just feel that access to actual materials is a much more natural and organic limiter than the artificial ~15LY one we're currently playing under.
So if you want to go 10,000LY out from Sol and build up a system? Sure knock yourself out, it's just on you to get the building materials there....
Build an outpost first to produce the main materials and take it from there. Will still require carrier support.
AoC is in that SC bucket for me. Great if they accomplish their goals but I'm not holding my breath.
I don't think ANYTHING fits in the SC bucket lol. I mean the totality of that scam...there's nothing to even compare it to lol. Ashes will release and they aren't asking for $5,000 per sword lol.
I've racked up thousands of hours in SC and had a lot of fun. Most of my friends haven't spent above $200 (over years) and buy all of their ships in-game.
Seems reasonable. One thing I liked about Civ 6 introducing the Loyalty mechanic was that it forced you to do this sort of thing. In the base game you could cross something the side of the Pacific and then just build more or less everything using money with no other constraint, that really annoyed me.
Also meant if your ghost town got a bit too ghost, any foreign cities nearby would start putting pressure on it and it might flip, which would then give you problems further up the chain.
I see the 15Ly limit as an economics/political thing rather than a logistical limit.
Obviously still as artificial as anything else in a game.
But what faction is going to want to build something so isolated that it is going to struggle to sustain itself never mind contribute in any way to the faction, if there was a chain of stations leading to it that would be another matter as long as they were within BGS and PP range of each other.
It is realistic (assuming a semi reasonable and logical economic model exists) that a colony could be made in very remote isolation (+10,000Ly) from the nearest population center. Building a well balanced colony with a matching population in a system with access to good resources should be viable. It should be capable of being self sustaining.
There are numerous IRL examples of organizations creating remote colonies for various reasons. Sometimes successful, often not. With improved technology, skills and resources it is much easier.
In the ED universe building a colony 10,000 LY out is only 10 fleet carrier jumps away. Its not even that remote. After the initial couple stations are built several of the large quantity commodities (Aluminum, Steel, Titanium) for building additional facilities can be sourced locally. After 15-20 facilities are built the system would be a reasonably good launching pad for expanding into the nearby systems.
The only big issue I see is the current game issues surrounding Fleet Carrier jumps. I suspect that is why Frontier placed the 15Ly limit.... to heavily reduce the fleet carrier usage with the colony update.
Seeing as from what I have read 15Ly is just within BGS and PP range I suspect that was at least as large a factor as not encouraging our over use of FCs.
