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Something is bugging me about the Black Market tick box on a station screen, and I've worked out now what it is.

If it's not ticked, I can never remember whether I've checked or not.

Could we instead have a 3 value drop-down or radio button instead. The values would be Yes, No, and Unknown.
 
Please download the new version of ED-ImportTo-CmdrsLog.ps1. I think I've ironed out wrong sell/buy price data being imported from EliteOCR's CSV files.

I think the problem stems from the definition of sell and buy price. Does sell price mean the price you can sell it for, or how much the station will sell if for? It can mean either one; the same with buy price. Apparently different tools use different definitions; it just takes getting it straight in one's head when coding it up. Guess wrong and this is what happens.
 
Something is bugging me about the Black Market tick box on a station screen, and I've worked out now what it is.

If it's not ticked, I can never remember whether I've checked or not.

Could we instead have a 3 value drop-down or radio button instead. The values would be Yes, No, and Unknown.

It has 3 settings, just keep clicking it.
I use it:
empty = not checked
ticked = has a black market
boxed = No black market
I think the problem stems from the definition of sell and buy price. Does sell price mean the price you can sell it for, or how much the station will sell if for? It can mean either one; the same with buy price. Apparently different tools use different definitions; it just takes getting it straight in one's head when coding it up. Guess wrong and this is what happens.

The buy price in game refers to how much you pay to buy it, the sell price is how much you get if you sell to the station
 
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Something is bugging me about the Black Market tick box on a station screen, and I've worked out now what it is.

If it's not ticked, I can never remember whether I've checked or not.

Could we instead have a 3 value drop-down or radio button instead. The values would be Yes, No, and Unknown.

I have a confession, this keeps happening with me too with stations I don't visit often...

A "yes" and a "no" radio button where neither is selected by default would probably work too

Also, I've been trying to enter "Cooperative" into "Government" in my entry for MacLean Dock, but when I switch from it to a different station and then back again the Government field is empty again. I checked the system file which says Government = ""

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It has 3 settings, just keep clicking it.
I use it:
empty = not checked
ticked = has a black market
boxed = No black market


The buy price in game refers to how much you pay to buy it, the sell price is how much you get if you sell to the station

I had no idea that was there... I've never unticked a box once I've ticked it...
 
I have a confession, this keeps happening with me too with stations I don't visit often...

A "yes" and a "no" radio button where neither is selected by default would probably work too

Also, I've been trying to enter "Cooperative" into "Government" in my entry for MacLean Dock, but when I switch from it to a different station and then back again the Government field is empty again. I checked the system file which says Government = ""

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I had no idea that was there... I've never unticked a box once I've ticked it...

Have you tried editing the station data file? Just add in a new line and "Co-op"
 
I wrote "Cooperative", but yes.

But I thought it was supposed to remember what you type in the field, otherwise you might as well not be able to.
 
This might be of some interest to you then:

For those of you who use ArchV1's Cmdr's Log program, here are some tools I've written that work with it. These are PowerShell scripts, so if you're not familiar with PowerShell it will probably help to read up on it a bit before using. For those not familiar with PowerShell, it's Windows 7+'s version of the old DOS, so it's more of a "command line" tool than a GUI application, so be warned. More specific info below.

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I'm having some manner of issue and I'm not sure where the problem is.

I've collected data from Smith Exchange in Algreit using EliteOCR and one of these is Hydrogen Fuel. This one is clearly in the table in EliteOCR and in the exported scv file, but it's not added to Cmdr's Log.

Something is causing some commodities to not get added even though they're in the csv file.
 
Oh.

It's because some of the commodities don't use the in-game names.

"Hydrogen Fuel" is called "Hydrogen Fuels" in Cmdrs Log for some reason, so when "Hydrogen Fuel" is added it's not displayed.

EliteORC specify "Fruit And Vegetables", but Cmdrs Log use "Fruit and Vegetables".

This is annoying...
 
It has 3 settings, just keep clicking it.
I use it:
empty = not checked
ticked = has a black market
boxed = No black market

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The buy price in game refers to how much you pay to buy it, the sell price is how much you get if you sell to the station

I'm fairly sure that earlier versions of the screens had Buy and Sell labels rather than Sell and Buy like now. So Buy meant how much the station would pay for something (i.e what you could sell it for), and Sell was what the station would charge if you were ermmm... buying it from them!
 
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I'm fairly sure that earlier versions of the screens had Buy and Sell labels rather than Sell and Buy like now. So Buy meant how much the station would pay for something (i.e what you could sell it for), and Sell was what the station would charge if you were ermmm... buying it from them!

The columns in the log match the in game column order. If you're inputting data, copy the left most prices for demand only and the right ones for supply. Log is correct as is.
OldLost if you need the csv and system data I'm happy to send it in the morning by pm, just ping me a message (it's 2am and I should be sleeping not reading the boards!)
 
The buy price in game refers to how much you pay to buy it, the sell price is how much you get if you sell to the station

Which is the opposite to how the entire rest of the world does it. This has been pointed out to FD since right at the start. Repeatedly. Dunno why they never changed it maybe it is like the countdown being off and they just want it like that.
Everywhere else, from post offices to pawn shops, when it says "buy" it means the price they buy at and when it says "sell" it means the price they sell at.
I will always rant about this. At every opportunity. Grrrr, FD. It keeps doing my head in.


Just .... Grrrrr....
 
Please download the new version of ED-ImportTo-CmdrsLog.ps1. I think I've ironed out wrong sell/buy price data being imported from EliteOCR's CSV files.

I think the problem stems from the definition of sell and buy price. Does sell price mean the price you can sell it for, or how much the station will sell if for? It can mean either one; the same with buy price. Apparently different tools use different definitions; it just takes getting it straight in one's head when coding it up. Guess wrong and this is what happens.

Morning OldLost, thanks for this and can confirm this has worked fine at my end.

As for the buy/sell thing, it is the other way round to which people expect, the main places that do it this way are currency exchanges/bureau de change, about 10 years ago they started showing "we buy/we sell" rather than just "buy/sell". Makes me wonder if the commodities markets (not just financial) where the banks do their trades are displayed in this manner and hence FDev have adopted this for immersion/consistency/realism.
 
Thanks OldLost for ironing the issues. I have just run edit script on one station and I only had to tie commodity names OCR vs Cmdr's Log to make it working OK. As for commodities sell / buy I would use bid / ask terminology, as this is what real markets use, I believe.
 
Please download the new version of ED-ImportTo-CmdrsLog.ps1. I think I've ironed out wrong sell/buy price data being imported from EliteOCR's CSV files.

I think the problem stems from the definition of sell and buy price. Does sell price mean the price you can sell it for, or how much the station will sell if for? It can mean either one; the same with buy price. Apparently different tools use different definitions; it just takes getting it straight in one's head when coding it up. Guess wrong and this is what happens.

I have never users Elite OCR up until now but I am a big fan of CMDR's log. I will admit I find it time consuming , I have spent more time populating CMDRs Log with data than actually travelling to the last 6 systems, so with that in mind I will give Elite OCR and your powershell script a bash to see if it helps things.

With regards to the pricing yes it can be confusing , it has been mentioned before in this thread (and others) but this may help:

Demand and Supply is relative to the station.
Buy/Sell is relative to you.
If the commodity has a Low Supply / Medium Supply / High Supply you will be buying from the station and the buy price applies.
If the commodity has a Low Demand / Medium Demand / High Demand you will be selling to the station and the sell price applies.
 
Misspelled commodities so far (From EliteOCR's perspective):
Hydrogen Fuels -> Hydrogen Fuel
Consumer Tech -> Consumer Technology
Fruit and Vegetables -> Fruit And Vegetables
HE Suits -> H.E. Suits
 
Please download the new version of ED-ImportTo-CmdrsLog.ps1. I think I've ironed out wrong sell/buy price data being imported from EliteOCR's CSV files.

I think the problem stems from the definition of sell and buy price. Does sell price mean the price you can sell it for, or how much the station will sell if for? It can mean either one; the same with buy price. Apparently different tools use different definitions; it just takes getting it straight in one's head when coding it up. Guess wrong and this is what happens.

I'm now getting this sometimes:

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It's still adding data though, but I don't know if all of it is getting added correctly.
 
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