Met My First Hacker Today

[Brett C]

We're not allowed to discuss players in the game? :/

A-grade Anaconda now in station to join the blockade, more reinforcements on-route.

There's a difference between, "PlayerABC keeps attacking PlayerDEF" or "This user keeps attacking me for absolutely no reason, add this user to XYZ list and something something", and "Hey PlayerABC helped me out with something at PlaceABC today! Thought i'd give a shoutout for their kindness/helpfulness/whatever/something."

It's a very fine line, unfortunately. Us moderators are here to enforce those rules set by Frontier many many months ago. If you wish to request potential changes/amendments to said rules, you're more than welcome to email elewis@frontier.co.uk regarding the forums policies.

 

[Briarée]

Hi

Yes I remember this however there is one detail you may not know about Warz, the Devs were also brought up in banning forum members who were telling people and posting videos about the hacks and trying to warn them

I hope FD arnt like this, but we will soon know as I'm planning on doing some recording this weekend (maybe before) and get some solid proof of the hacks, I'm busy the next couple of days but I'll get started as soon as I can and if the Devs ban me........well I'll cross that bridge when I come to it

same with Archeage, dev were more prone in locking / deleting thread and banning player complaining in forum than doing anything against the massive bot armys / hackerz.

ultimately, they just ripped off all the funder of their money, broke the ingame economy, flushed their server from players to the point they are now merging them trying to avoid the hemmoragy and closed their facebook commentbecause they were flammed.

took them 3 month to get to that point, ultimately i contacted my bank and they reverted all the transactions without any question stating that said company (Trion) was tagged as "scammer" so they would refund without question (we are talking about one of the biggest EU bank here).

so i really hope FDEV won't come to this point......but so far, the way they manage the issue, i feel like i'm dealing with Trion again, no support, ignoring the issues etc.....

 

[Skip Intro]

A-grade Anaconda now in station to join the blockade, more reinforcements on-route.

En route, if we're being picky about it. Who do you think you're blockading exactly? It seems a little premature to get into an e-peen measuring contest, especially one you can't win.

 

[Alec Turner]

You mean: someone created an account that could be him
the moderators or we here have no evidence and thus it's a problem. what would keep me from creating an account here called "CMDR Alec Turner" and posting "Yeah and I'm with Cmdr Cheat0rhax too, u all sux!!1"?

While what you say is true, the CMDR that gunned me down and who I then observed doing the same to many many other players most certainly was him (assuming in-game commander names are guaranteed to be unique).

 

[Sexydino]

Well, i've just been happily flying around for the past 30 minutes with no sign of any blockade - plenty of other cmdrs coming and going, but no drama - TC, you need to try a bit harder mate

 

[Alec Turner]

A-grade Anaconda now in station to join the blockade, more reinforcements on-route.

Doh! Just in time for the 1.1 update and server reboot (dropping in approx. 45mins).

 

[Ari Ben Zayn]

I guess it's time for some community goals: "ship us class three lasers so we can upgrade the pea-shooters in our stations to pack some real firepower instead of merely mildly rubbing peoples backs".

 

[CMDR TC]

Interesting, I wondered if that was the deal. So what happens, you sit inside a cloud of chaff and the station defences barely scratch you? Are you spamming shield cells too or is the chaff enough?

P.S. I didn't report you for cheating (I have no evidence of that at all aside from a mild disbelief that the station defences weren't getting through your shields), I merely reported you for anti-social behaviour

Thanks, I don't like the idea that people are reporting me from using hacks/cheats when it's simply not something I'd do, I love this game.

Chaffs are enough, just figure out the timing. SCB's for fire from other Cmdr's.

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But no Silent running? You constantly dispear from my radar when you were hidding in station.
If you didn't "cheat/exploit", so good job.

Will get you next time.

No idea on that one, perhaps the huge chaff cloud?

 

[CMDR TC]

Well, i've just been happily flying around for the past 30 minutes with no sign of any blockade - plenty of other cmdrs coming and going, but no drama - TC, you need to try a bit harder mate

We uh... have had some issues with instancing. Tough to get ships in the same place, hopefully Wings helps with this.

I'd welcome a sidewinders duel some time. All equal gear. Fixed lasers.

 

[bassman]

The interesting thing is that the 1.1 main update apparently drops today, so i'll be very concerned if these people are still able to launch dumbfires inside the station without being "taken care of"

They will but shields take very little damage from them in 1.1

 

[Alec Turner]

Thanks, I don't like the idea that people are reporting me from using hacks/cheats when it's simply not something I'd do, I love this game.

I'm glad you like this game - I think we all do. What you're doing is really spoiling other people's enjoyment of it tho' you know?

Anyway, you have hutzpah for coming on this forum and stating your case. I'll give you that.

Edit: assuming you are TC (can I say that in this context?) and not an imposter as Ari Ben Zayn has suggested

 

[AnnuverScotinExile]

they don't give a [masked swearing redacted - please avoid this thank you].they even stated so in another thread i can't find back so far......

all this was reported from early stage, still nothing done.......

by end of Feb. i will not be able to dispute using paypal anymore, if issue not solved then i'll refund / chargeback before i can't do it anymore

They have NOT said they don't care or that they are happy with it. They have said that playing a psychopath is a valid in-game choice, so that random killing will not be stopped (and, TBH, anything to stop it would involve immersion-breaking 'magic' in a game where we all fly around with weapons on our ships). However, they have also said that there will be consequences, and there is no sign of those consequences being implemented. And they have said that they will not tolerate griefing (though the lack of a ban on these people suggests otherwise, unless they are simply saying that it will only be for a little while, as 1.1 will fix the issue). So, yes, somewhat mixed messages. I hope that means that they are working on stuff and it is due "soon", rather than that they have not got a clue. Or it may simply be that they think other priorities are more important - given that we have had griefers from the alpha versions, it is not as if they have not known about this for a long time. So, confused.

 

[Cmdr Sharky]

Who do you think you're blockading exactly? It seems a little premature to get into an e-peen measuring contest, especially one you can't win.

They're blockading anyone playing in Open, such as me. That's pretty obvious. It's been well known from the start that people can play solo if they want and avoid player interaction, but that does not invalidate all attempts at player interaction. If you're playing solo, you're playing a different game, so why should they care? I play Open only. They are blockading me. And denigrating PvP by saying it has something to do with e-peens, well, that's just sad. This is a PvP game, and both 'P's refer to "player". Did you just Come to the forum to insult the players who want to experience the game as envisioned by DBOBE?

 

[Javert]

Commander TC is not the only one who has been reported, and others have reported that they observed a different ship sitting in the middle of a hail of fire from the station indefinitely, so even if TC is not hacking (which we only have his word for by the way), there are still suspicions about others which should be reported (with video if possible).

Also, whilst I'm not sure that FD have clarified what is the difference between griefing and "psychopath", I would consider that hanging around inside the docking bay shooting all other players without warning on a constant basis is griefing, and clearly the penalty for it is not nearly high enough right now.

Anyway, station defence weapons should not be affected by chaff I would think, so that should be fixed as well. We are talking about being within visual range here so station guns should be allowed to be aimed visually.

 

[Sexydino]

rofl they're definitely there - just got attacked by 3 at once, a viper, ASP and cobra, almost killed one with torps but had no ammo ;_;

 

[Ari Ben Zayn]

playing a psychopath is a valid in-game choice

And they have said that they will not tolerate griefing

I'm having a hard time deciding for myself: when am I "just playing a psychopath" and when am I griefing?

Genuine question.

 

[CMDR TC]

There's more disingenuous behaviour here by the griefed than by the griefer! CMDR<snip> (I've never met him in ED) has told people what he is doing. It's anti-social, but he has also been heralded as an ace pilot by others too. Either 1.1 is going to spoil his fun (and I suspect what he's doing is as much a "because it's there" as because he's an anti-social gamer. Comment welcome!), or we're going to have to arrange a lynch mob of highly motivated CMDRs to take him down. If he isn't cheating by the definition of playing the game according to its structure, then he isn't cheating period. Maybe the combination of 1.1 AND a self-appointed army of defenders is what's needed?

I'm blowing up tons of ships (in ways that other people sometimes don't like, including mean station kills), but I've never been rude to anyone. Always civil, since we're just having some fun here. You should see how serious and angry some people get.

Seeing Vipers with hardpoints deployed and an Anaconda melting ships is a fairly good indicator you shouldn't try docking, but people still do

Bring on 1.2 and the lynch mob! Wings will be great.

 

[Briarée]

Commander TC is not the only one who has been reported, and others have reported that they observed a different ship sitting in the middle of a hail of fire from the station indefinitely, so even if TC is not hacking (which we only have his word for by the way), there are still suspicions about others which should be reported (with video if possible).

Also, whilst I'm not sure that FD have clarified what is the difference between griefing and "psychopath", I would consider that hanging around inside the docking bay shooting all other players without warning on a constant basis is griefing, and clearly the penalty for it is not nearly high enough right now.

Anyway, station defence weapons should not be affected by chaff I would think, so that should be fixed as well. We are talking about being within visual range here so station guns should be allowed to be aimed visually.

well, there is 2 different subject here.

what one should answer first is:

is there a way to do that under the game mechanics?

if no, then it is hack / exploit
if yes, then should something be done about it?

what should happen if one is to open fire in that area?

insta death? can survive a few seconds? a few minutes? as long as he has shield cell?

 

[AnnuverScotinExile]

Did you just Come to the forum to insult the players who want to experience the game as envisioned by DBOBE?

I think that we can be reasonably confident that the game envisioned by DBOBE did NOT include people loitering in a spaceport spamming anyone who enters with missiles with no consequences.

 

[Sexydino]

I don't think anyone is hacking, I almost killed one of them - just attacked an ASP but got killed by the station, there's at least 3 of them there right now,

what I don't understand, is how they're able to fire their weapons outside the station with impunity - 5 mins ago they were all shooting me, yet the station totally ignored them, a few seconds ago I opened on an ASP and the station killed me immediately,