External View [A definitive discussion]

[Dominico]

Fastest thread end evaaaaa!!!!! *Dramatic echo*

 

[Jorlin]

Referring to the newsletter "This week, we’re taking stepping outside and taking a look at our ships with the new external camera, available in March’s Wings content update."

Before anyone pings me on this, i've already looked through main poll/discussion thread and i'm not digging through 200+ threads as it should be consolidated.

I have a few questions for those who know more about this feature being implemented as it concerns balance/immersion.

1) Can you use this external view and rotate the camera during combat?
2) Will there be new keybinds to control camera?
3) Will any HUD elements be toggled or enabled during external cam or is it purely cosmetic?

If usable in combat this would prove to add to some serious balance concerns. #wtfneedsradar

I'm just afraid this is what external cam would be like

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Any insight would be helpful. Thanks!

1) yes, but you can't control your ship in camera view. so it's of no use in combat.
2) no, not really. you fly the camera like you fly your ship.
3) every hud will be disabled, it's just for taking nice screenshots

 

[Captain Breton]

"[h=2]Wait, what? Why is Frontier implementing an External View?!"[/h]
-_- really?

Because it's a feature lots of player wants?

 

[Kaburan]

Fastest thread end evaaaaa!!!!! *Dramatic echo*

Most helpful thread evaaaa!!! *abrupt screech of disc stopping*

 

[Tinman]

It's purely cosmetic, no HUD elements will be shown. You can't fly the ship and control the external view at the same time...the ship will basically keep on doing what it was doing before you entered the mode. There will apparently also be a popup when going into the mode so you can't really flip in on and off again while in combat.

It's basically the debug camera they've used internally when taking screenshots for PR purposes.

 

[Vandaahl]

Have you even read the newsletter?

Of course, a true third-person camera would give players increased spatial awareness and advantages in combat, so we had to be sure players can't use the debug camera to cheat. The solution you’ll find in Wings offers limited control of the camera outside your ship and confers no advantage to gameplay;

 

[Kaburan]

"Wait, what? Why is Frontier implementing an External View?!"


-_- really?

Because it's a feature lots of player wants?

Yes really, 3rd person in any game like this is really lame. Use it while docked, thats fine, preview your ship and swoon over it while outfitting. Im glad to know at least you can't rotate in combat....

 

[Saliddry]

What advantage?? Don't we have a all seeing radar? I`m a flight simmer and every time I pop to outside view I loose my advantage.

since beta 2 this guys crying rivers of immersion beaking and advantage, they still didnt check that you have an radar in the lower half of you cockpit view that show you the same....... and they dont have to use outside view if the dont want to ..
Give it up....

but nice that Fd stops lisening to all this crybabys

 

[Vasea Azure]

Yet every simulator has it.

 

[Kaburan]

Have you even read the newsletter?

Debug Camera =/= External Camera? I wasn't assuming it was the same...

 

[TRiPWiRE]

It's so they can sell bazillions of custom paint-jobs. Ultimately, they're pretty useless without an external view beyond what's available in the ship customisation area.

 

[Jorlin]

Yet every simulator has it.

this isn't "every simulator"

 

[Red Kite]

You could use it in combat, apparently, but you'd be stupid to do so as you cannot control your ship at the same time and would be helpless. The external view is definitely only intended to be a cosmetic visual aid, not for use in gameplay.

 

[Kaburan]

It's purely cosmetic, no HUD elements will be shown. You can't fly the ship and control the external view at the same time...the ship will basically keep on doing what it was doing before you entered the mode. There will apparently also be a popup when going into the mode so you can't really flip in on and off again while in combat.

It's basically the debug camera they've used internally when taking screenshots for PR purposes.

+rep

Thank you for explaining this. Way more clear now.

 

[Vandaahl]

Debug Camera =/= External Camera? I wasn't assuming it was the same...

Well, thats what the newletter says. The part that I quoted. There^

 

[DCello]

Debug Camera =/= External Camera? I wasn't assuming it was the same...

It is the same.

this isn't "every simulator"

Yes, it is worse. It's shaping up to be awesome yet, and for that it needs third person.

 

[Tarman]

Yes really, 3rd person in any game like this is really lame. Use it while docked, thats fine, preview your ship and swoon over it while outfitting. Im glad to know at least you can't rotate in combat....

For a game that gives us the actual galaxy to explore and cool paint for our rides, taking good screenies is an important addition. And it's not just for looking at ships, it's for not needing to care about how big the canopy panes are on a ship you want to use for deep-space exploration photography.

 

[Borgkube]

"Wait, what? Why is Frontier implementing an External View?!"


-_- really?

Because it's a feature lots of player wants?

Because there is no point in buying ship skins if there is no way to see them!

 

[Jorlin]

Yes, it is worse. It's shaping up to be awesome yet, and for that it needs third person.

I don't think so.
So this is just your personal opinion.
I hate it when people state their personal view as a fact... it just looks stupid.

 

[Kaburan]

For a game that gives us the actual galaxy to explore and cool paint for our rides, taking good screenies is an important addition. And it's not just for looking at ships, it's for not needing to care about how big the canopy panes are on a ship you want to use for deep-space exploration photography.

I could totally understand that which is fine. I was just confused with the external/debug camera and powers you had with it.