Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Part the Second [Now With Added Platforms].

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I tried Cambridge but it did not have it, so I had to fall back on OED as well.
That's a blot on the Cambridge landscape! Blott on the Landscape... a highly amusing book and TV series, was that.



I now have an urge to read Ancestral Vices again.

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Word of the Week? Copacetic!
 
Been away for a good while and don't have time right now to shift through tons of patch notes; is Powerplay still affected by all modes or has it became meaningful at last?
 
They should make solo mode non NPC and then they can join those who are already there avoiding player on player combat in open. Problem solved.
 
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They should make solo mode non NPC and then they can join those who are already there avoiding player on player combat in open. Problem solved.

Mmmm, to begin with the solo/multi discussion forum is that a way ---->

Second, what problem is it that you refer to? Too difficult AI, or too little judgment on the part of pilots that try to take on the impossible (based on their load-out and skills)?
 
They should make solo mode non NPC and then they can join those who are already there avoiding player on player combat in open. Problem solved.

I think you're missing the meaning of Solo. And what? Non-NPC and no PvP. So what do we shoot now?
 
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Can we have another category added to the Solo vs Open vs Groups title - filthy casuals!

Oh noes, please don't tell me the "filthy casuals" are here too, I fear even Iron mouse can't save us from them, well on the odd occasion they play that is ;), (enter random doom here)
 
I think you're missing the meaning of Solo. And what? Non-NPC and no PvP. So what do we shoot now?


Yep, i see it is confusing , but i was answering to an NPC thread and if you read above, my comment was moved here, so unless you read what i answered to it is confusing.
 
It's confusing in any context.

Never heard the saying, they took it out of context ? That is what happend when my comment was air lifted out of one thread and dropped into another.



Quoting/taken out of context
(sometimes referred to as "contextomy"), is an informal fallacy and a type of false attribution in which a passage is removed from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning.
 
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how to make both parties happy

2nd galaxy (seperate save) = 4th server option - open only.


boom.
 
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how to make both parties happy

2nd galaxy (seperate save) = 4th server option - open only.


boom.

You would think that separate servers would make everyone happy, but the truth is that those playing solo insist that they be on the same server as the open players so they don't feel left out.

Of course, there is also the issue of who is going to pay for another server.

And, the other problem is that frontier does not like all that awful player coordination that could lead to fun PvP play. Having an open only server might encourage players to organize and try to be disruptive to other players.

So separate servers isn't going to happen.
 
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Ehm, there is approx 670.000 copies of ED sold for PC/Mac platform only. I do not know how many copies will be sold for XBox, but I suppose that this can be more. Let's say 1.000.000 copies.
If there will be 1M XBox players, I cannot imagine how many of them will have the golden XBox account which will allow them to play Open (separate Open, invisible from PC Open).
But all those Xbox players will play unseen in the same galaxy as we are playing and they will be fortifying and undermining etc. and nobody with PC/Mac will be able to see them.
Oh, and I frogot that there will be PS4 version, with another big lot of players invisible to PC/Mac players and maybe invisible to XBox players too.

IMHO, the whole discussion about Open/Solo on PC/Mac platform is a bit silly, because we will be a minority.
 
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People may have spread out. It is a big galaxy after all.
When I went to Diso (in open) while the corn was on offer, it was manic there. I even went afk for 30 minutes outside the station, as bait - to see what would happen. I drifted about 30Km.

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I have been running a little route that took in Diso too during the "offer" in open, my type 6 has no guns but I do have good shields and a cell bank just in case, I have posted here each time I have been in open, 4 times I think in the last 2 / 3 weeks, I have even stated I had 100-200k CR of rares on the return trip that I was happy to share (sale price at Diso), I jokingly suggested I was scared & needed an escort, e.g. "come pirate me, you can have half, or all of it if you RP escort me to the station", I was in the mood for interaction that evening :(.

Probably been there 15-20 times in open, Friday and Saturday evenings mainly, I saw some players in SC to start with, less to none later on, I got interdicted by 1 AI & 1 CMDR, the AI was a bigger threat, I didn't hyperspace away from either, just SC and I was fine.

I assume by "manic" you mean really busy, I am in the UK and I was on after 10/11pm BST (GMT +1), what time were you on and where are you based?, it might be the UK crowd are a bit thin that time of night and the server is trying to match me with our friends in the USA.

My Speed test result is "ping 7ms, DL 20 Mbps, UL 6 Mbps" right now, I am on an AMD desktop via wifi, sometimes the DL & ping are worse but UL normally around 6Mbps.

I have seen maybe max 8/10 CMDRs in SC before but that was a while back, during the Diso excursion I think 3/4 was the most, I am still seeing CMDRs so I doubt its my setup, more likely the times, but 10/11 pm on a Friday / Saturday ain't late, well not to me.

Maybe I need to run "The Code" diagnostic, was it Lave or Leesti? I know its around there, Dammit, I still haven't been to Reidquat, I need to do that for old times sake too.
 
how to make both parties happy

2nd galaxy (seperate save) = 4th server option - open only.


boom.

Erm.. We discussed your Open only mode, and thought you'd be lonely.

You would think that separate servers would make everyone happy, but the truth is that those playing solo insist that they be on the same server as the open players so they don't feel left out.

Of course, there is also the issue of who is going to pay for another server.

And, the other problem is that frontier does not like all that awful player coordination that could lead to fun PvP play. Having an open only server might encourage players to organize and try to be disruptive to other players.

So separate servers isn't going to happen.

I think you'll find it's FD who want everyone on 'the same server', affecting the same background sim. Solo / Group players are happy with the game as it is, it's others who seem to insist it should be different.
 
I suspect that it feels emptier for people because Power Play has spread them out more. Previously all systems were essentially as valuable as each other. Some attracted more people because they attracted more people, if you see what I mean. PP has given a significance to much larger number of systems. Players will spread out across the Powers and they will further spread out across that Powers and their multiple enemies' various Control, Expansion and Preparation systems.

There are no longer a small number of "go to" systems, players need to be in any number of systems at different times.

Oops, I got surrounded by a merge. :)

Ohh, cool, the rep button works again :)

Are you trying to suggest that PP is spreading out the players and also giving no benefit to PVP within PP other than the fun of "interacting" with other players? E.G. possibly PVP is becoming more "rare & meaningful" due to PP?

Its almost like they are doing what they said they would ages ago, you know, what we bought into originally, make a modern day Elite, I didn't notice any Guild questions at E3 either, maybe they learnt from his reaction at EGX2014 :)

I guess only time will tell, but I am glad DBOBE reiterated "play it how you want to" at E3, again another early promise being reinforced.
 
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