"working on something secret for PC and Mac"

[el_tel]

I was one of the ED Ambassadors at EGX last year, and was required to sign an NDA. I didn't learn anything secret as a result though, so I think Kerrash is somewhat unusual in this regard - being a recurring Ambassador and having visited FD'S offices.

BTW - I thought this thread was about the new thing for PC and Mac, but it's turned into a debate about Kerrash. Better be careful, or Kerrash will appear warning us not to be OT and stop talking about Kerrash

 

[Patrick_68000]

Isummary: I live on earth. Why would I want to land on a planet.

You should tell it Armstrong and Aldrin and all the others...

 

[Tinman]

BTW - I thought this thread was about the new thing for PC and Mac, but it's turned into a debate about Kerrash. Better be careful, or Kerrash will appear warning us not to be OT and stop talking about Kerrash

And then be attacked for "conflict of interests"!!

 

[Derthek]

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[Herik]

I can't agree more. FDev have a rare opportunity to produce a game with open communication to their players. I would kill for this opportunity. Did any one ask for space-risk & time/credit sinks? If they did, it was buried in the flurry of posts asking for basic mechanics to work properly. They walk a dangerous road of introducing barely working mechanics that no one asked for instead of communicating openly and accepting our advice.

We know the game we want to play. Chances are no one from FDev spends as much time playing E: D as I do, I would trade planetary landings for balanced & working combat mechanics, functioning rank missions, and for the background sim to work properly.

summary: I live on earth. Why would I want to land on a planet. I dont have a space ship. I play elite to fly a space ship. Make the spaceships work. thnx.



EDIT:
now that i think about it, i dont think i can get hyped any more. 1.3 was on a huuuge hype train and was a disaster after the update dropped. Everything seems to be a mess from the new bounty system, the RES, and the background sim just to name a few. I remember reading DEV posts saying how excited they were for what 1.3 had in store. If they are excited about this "new" update as well... sounds like exactly what they were saying about 1.3

Yeah, we'll get the game DB wants to make, thank you...(Well, as we know now),- DB and the Eve players.

Personally I favor planet landings, but I wouldn't drop the game if station walking came first. But I believe elements of both will be in the game by the end of the year

 

[Whiteball]

Maybe to get some cash they've done a deal with Disney...

...Going to change all your ships into X-Wings, Tie Fighters and Star Destroyers.

 

[Sanderson]

One thing everyone can agree on; we all hope it's something we personally want.

 

[Herik]

You should tell it Armstrong and Aldrin and all the others...

So true...+1

 

[Captain Hammer]

thats the part of my post you had to comment on?


Personally i'd rather be able to walk around my ship than land on a planet.

+1 on that ship and stations please!

 

[CaptainKremmen]

I know you can't say what they are, but how many cool things have you seen? For example, Thargoids or aliens count as one item.

Plenty...

So... would you say...

...that you had seen a plethora of cool things?

 

[barcode]

I'm sure that no matter what it is, a certain segment of the community will find something to complain about.

 

[Le-Betz]

One thing everyone can agree on; we all hope it's something we personally want.

Something like cities on inhabitat planets,



more diversity like different station types,



or maybe the chance to witness new stations being built?



I'm pretty sure after all the rants here at the forums (i found some of them even constructive), the Devs might have understood that Powerplay was not their brightest idea to fill the galaxy with content. No need to turn every thread into something that reads like 'i hate PP and despise everybody who hyped it and now i'm disapointed about it so much that i can't trust FD anymore to produce anything that comes even near the game they promised to us'.

 

[Genxav]

For some reason, i don't like it anymore when they say they are working on something "secret". Feels like hype more than anything

 

[Kerrash]

I guess trying to cheer people up and get them excited was a fruitless endeavour.
I am sorry I tried

 

[wolverine2710]

True, but that doesn't mean he is lying or doesn't mean it.

Oh, and moderators haven't signed any NDA as far as I know. Unless maybe if they have been ambassadors.



I don't think any of these Commanders ever went to FD offices. They were just speculating. Kerrash on the other hand have been there and seen things. Rather big difference.



It says that nothing is of the table...did you miss all the threads lately on how "they are going in the wrong direction" or how "the DDA proposals will never ever happen".



Yes.

Especially when he slips up and manage to confirm that certain features that "never ever going to happen" is "coming soon" (Tier 2 NPCs).

Thanks for the polite response, appreciated (rep +1). Your post was also succesful in getting a statement from Bret C. that moderators are also under NDA. I seem to have missed the part about Kerrash and Tier2. Do you have a link to a post.

For the record. My post was not about dishing Kerrash. It was about that aside from Kerrash others who have info are also under NDA and hence really can´t say anything about the direction of ED. Which makes statements from them about that meaningless. As in wrt to getting info. I DO like their love for ED. I´m an 84-er and I loved to see ED being released. I bought PB1 because I missed KS. I watched basically all DB´s KS videos before buying PB1. It saddens me that we are so far away from what he said there and what we currently have.... But perhaps 2 years from now most of Davids vision for ED will be realized. Not talking about the paid DLC´s but talking about the core game. I think lots of threads would become obsolete if FD just released some kind of roadmap for say the next 6 months or one year. But they said they won´t be doing that. Their decision ofc, but it fuels the disappointment many commanders seem to have - I´m one of those commanders. I´m disappointed because I love ED. I´m critical but most of the time I manage to stay polite (like you do). Sometimes I partially succeed and my frustration (clearly) shows- offline mode, changed data access policy, ED API being low on the priority list.... I´m 49 so have some mileage and can put things in perspective but I´m also only human....

 

[Kerrash]

I have not seen any work being done on Tier 2 NPCs
I recall saying "I thought they are still being worked on"

People saying I have 'confirmed' them is a stretch.
But then, I don't have a PR department to tell me how to say things so I cant be misquoted.

 

[wolverine2710]

I have not seen any work being done on Tier 2 NPCs
I recall saying "I thought they are still being worked on"

People saying I have 'confirmed' them is a stretch.
But then, I don't have a PR department to tell me how to say things so I cant be misquoted.

Thanks for the clarification. Your posts were meaningfull in a different way. We know now that basically everyone is under NDA and that there is no official word about Tier 2 NPC´s. No official word about anything for that matter.

 

[Kerrash]

Thanks for the clarification.

No worries
I really hope I don't have to change my sig to read: "I don't work here, this is just my opinion" LOL

 

[Eric Sheppard]

I would like to say one thing - Elite Dangerous has operated on a smaller budget than Star Citizen not because of luck, but because of the business model Star Citizen employs. While I agree that the vast majority of Star Citizen's financial impetus comes from its pledge ship sales, I believe that they tend to have a less cynical, more supportive forum community because of how open the developers are about everything they're working on. When they do keep quiet about a coming feature, when they do keep secrets for a big reveal, nobody resents it because we get to see so much about where the game is going anyway. And when a player has a concern, when an issue is repeatedly raised about the same element of the game, it's never long before the developers make an official statement - Usually that they're aware of the problem, and working on a solution.

No such luck from FD. There's nothing so discouraging to someone who backed a game with high hopes than to not hear whether any of the original promises for post-1.0 development have since been abandoned, or have any idea WHEN the content we know IS coming might emerge. I bought an Anaconda recently, at long last. I almost have 700 million credits now, which will be enough to outfit it for combat, and cover the rebuy. After that, what? I might just quit and forget about the game. Now, if I knew, say, that an expansion was coming in X number of months that would give my Anaconda a huge interior to explore and NPC crew, that'd certainly ensure I stayed with the game. I'd also feel like there was less to complain about.

If I knew good things were coming, and knew WHEN they were coming, I'd recommend the game to my friends. At this stage I'm sorry to say I can't. I'm often asked whether ED is a good game. I reply that it's a very polished game, but not enjoyable in the long run without a great deal of patience, and a preparedness to engage in grinding that is in no way enjoyable or meaningful to get to the endgame content - Which would be nothing special, just a bigger ship with bigger guns.

 

[Cymek]

Space based lifeforms which you can hunt or protect and fight the opposition. Its a rare commodity worth a lot of money so it causes conflict. A more fleshed out galaxy would be good full of objects besides just stars and planets, wormholes as well.