I think you nailed it. Open players want to stop players from undermining/fortifying by shooting them. But those are not PP rules. If you want to stop your enemies, you must do the counter task, not killing them.
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I think you nailed it. Open players want to stop players from undermining/fortifying by shooting them. But those are not PP rules. If you want to stop your enemies, you must do the counter task, not killing them.
Is exactly what happens in every mmo.
I'm not into PvP. I hate PvP. I don't understand why people would PvP. It's dumb. All of it.
Winged up with someone from Germany last Thursday. Never met him before. All we did was trade and shoot a couple of NPC pirates. Well... He shot them as I was in an unarmed T9. It was the most fun I had since the last time I winged up with someone.
All those nice people in solo that could be having fun together. Makes me weep. I will get you out of solo and you WILL have more fun. Honest. Most people don't want to gank you.
You are probably mostly correct but it does baffle me a bit that so many seem to pretend there is no issue at all here.
Surely you can understand the frustration when, for example:
- Another power declares it's intention to undermine a certain system of yours
- You rally your members and set out to oppose them
- On arrival you find that to them the winning was more important than the taking part and they have dropped into solo
Hopping between modes to achieve certain goals more easily is a frustrating result of the mixed modes.
I don't think most solo players are trying to spite open players. I'm not sure anybody thinks that tbh.
Just as not all solo players do it to spite the open folk, not all open players want to 'impose their superiority' on other people.
Frontier have been clear that they are not going to change this and yet introduce Powerplay and hope that it will encourage more player interaction. That hope seems a little doomed to me.
Open could add enormous richness to the game or it could just be a way to wave at each other occasionally.
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So your problem with open can be solved with the mute function in the comms panel?
Having a solo instance mode is much easier than muting every player one by one.
But I'd have to mute ~400,000 (at last published count) CMDRs. That's a lot of button clicking. There is however, a menu option that auto-mutes everyone....
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But I get that already if I want it in "the group which it seems should not be named" (otherwise i would be accused of being some sort of religious zealot).
But most don't talk ! There seems to me massive misconceptions about open, it is not full of chatterbox psycos just shooting everyone.
I'm an introvert. If you made me interact with other people I would be grumpy and snapping at people all day at work because I was not allowed to recharge my energy during my "alone time" and I would potentially lose my job. Thanks for that.
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I don't want to be forced to be rude and ignore people who try to chat with me, that's not how I am.
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ah, that i didn't know, i just trade though, so while i'll happily oblige the odd PP enemy ship that chooses to poke me with a stick, i have yet to actually go hunting them directly.
still, none of these things should unbalance PP, there are always going to be players in every mode representing every power in play. proportionally, the results would hardly differ, even in a large homogeneous mode lol
thanks for the info Jordan... Aarrrrrrrr
You don't understand introversion. Just an observation.
Was about to write the same
I can't speak for that guy but I never said it was all psychos. But the other part of his point mustn't be forgotten:
Say what you like about my character but sometimes I just like to be on my bill for a while.
I came to kick ass and give rep, but I'm all out of rep…
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Those nice people in solo don't need to go into Open to play the game with other people - there are plenty of Private Groups out there - some with controlled access and an aversion to those who join specifically to gank. They have that freedom - as all players have been given free choice as to which mode to play in....
As an aside, I'm intrigued - how do you propose to get players out of Solo? Also, as people's definition of "fun" varies, how do you know that you would guarantee them "fun" even if you did manage in some way to get them out of Solo?
Though you may be preoccupied with your own thoughts and feelings you don't really minimise your contact with other people here.
I do it at my own pace without feeling any pressure to respond in a timely manner, if at all. I come to the forum when I want and leave when I want. My terms. I don't have that control in Open. However, I don't need you to understand me, the small number of people I choose as friends do and that's enough for me.
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Did you ever, or do you ever, get told that you're wasting your life on video games? Have you ever been told that there is another, wonderful, extra special world of "clubbing" that you would love more than anything else if only you went out and gave it a go?
Has anyone ever told you that, for your own good, you need to give up video games and go play football? Have you ever heard the mantra that video games are unhealthy and you need to go and get some mates, go out, and have a kick around in the park?
Not everyone finds the same things fun.
There is nothing sadder than seeing all those "populated" systems without barely any population. And I'm not talking about NPCs, they are just bunch of ones and zeros. I'm talking about cmdrs, living persons, with their routines, doing unpredictable stuff. Chatting occasionally when two, three or more cmdrs "meet" in space.
I like to type in: "hi" in local chat when I'm in a space port with other cmdrs, some reply, some don't. I don't blame them if they don't feel like replying.
For me, playing in Open is about that feeling that galaxy is alive. That something is always happening in it. It doesn't necessarily have to be PvP killing. Hey, you can even have PvP without killing, a friendly joust with a mate. See who's got bigger.... SCB reserve
The thing I really don't like and would like to see changed is solo influencing open and vice versa.
I like to type in: "hi" in local chat when I'm in a space port with other cmdrs, some reply, some don't. I don't blame them if they don't feel like replying.
For me, playing in Open is about that feeling that galaxy is alive. That something is always happening in it. It doesn't necessarily have to be PvP killing. Hey, you can even have PvP without killing, a friendly joust with a mate. See who's got bigger.... SCB reserve
The thing I really don't like and would like to see changed is solo influencing open and vice versa.
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