Awesome! I'll post this up on Reddit
ThanksSaying that, this kinda doesn't sound like the best of trade routes and may take some persuasion...
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Awesome! I'll post this up on Reddit
ThanksSaying that, this kinda doesn't sound like the best of trade routes and may take some persuasion...
Awesome! I'll post this up on Reddit
go for it
I don't play to maximize trade routes, I play to have fun. If you succeed I will simply find a new route that I like, see what seems to trade the best and then moves routes. At no point is there any skin off my nose. I flip between RES, trading and exploring with a smattering of PP inbetween. So good luck with your boustrus threat about what your going to do to me
... because it will do... nothing.
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There's usually some nice metals trading to be had around Kokoimudji and one of the HIP systems adjacent, in case you want to break that one too.
Originally Posted by Jesse Blue
Let's just call Solo/Private Group what it REALLY is: a Stealth Mode exploit.
This is so... I can't even
Originally Posted by Jesse Blue
The problem is that with PP/CG there's no way to "stop" anyone undermining you without you sitting there 24/7 doiIf everyone were in open then there's a good chance you can influence them by blasting them out of your sky...
Again, you have the exact same mechanisms to counter a faction's actions as everyone does. It's been explained many times here that a blockade simply does not work because of the structure of the matchmaker and network. The same goes for "blasting them out of the sky." You're only going to see a tiny percentage of open players in your same instance. Dunno if you were here for the Lugh demonstration...
As Mouse said, ""There is no "your sky" it is everyones."
Originally Posted by Jesse Blue
Problems solved! Open players get what they want...
It appears not, as they come here complaining that "open is a barren wasteland" because the majority have chosen a different mode to play.
Originally Posted by Jesse Blue
But now that FDEV is a publicly-traded company, let's let their yearly financial reports speak to that, shall we?
@Relayer: All those posts DON'T BELONG to me. I you want to quote me, quote me properly, please. Right now, you should give credit to their true original author.
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Of course, I think FD is wrong with the open/solo matter, while I think they are right in many other things. Another example: Many people also believe that Power Play was a wrong decision and bad implemented, but nevertheless, they are happy with other aspects of the game, right? Also, it seems that many of those people want to change PP to fit how they believe FD should have done it. Probably you are even one of them.You think FD is wrong but you chose to buy their game anyways? And now you want to change it to fit how you believe they should have done it?Originally Posted by Jesse Blue
I still think FD is WRONG with their decisions on the matter. So yes, I perfectly know what FD said, and his intentions. I keep believing they are mistaken.
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I don't said they are wrong. I said I THINK/BELIEVE they are wrong. There's a subtle difference. That's my opinion, and AFAIK, forums are there to express opinions, aren't they?
BTW, I'm also a backer of Star Citizen. And you can be sure that if I believe they are doing something wrong, I'll also express that (my) opinion in their respective forums too.
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No bolded text on numbers 2 & 3?
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Oh, that particular paragraph was in response to another one that described the attitude of some (not all) open players. A post that was an expression of purity and innocence, without any condescence at all. Just a post describing some (not all) open players as egoistical maniacs who only want self-recognition because they feel superior to others. Pure warmhearted words, as you see, that you may confirm if you take the trouble of reading through those past posts. But, of course, I'm the arrogant jerk for responding with an example on the same terms. I should really feel ashamed of my own condescendence... But not from other's condescendence, it seems.
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I'm afraid not. I don't even have to lift a finger for the situation keep developing. And I can assure you I'm one on the friendliest and most harmless guys you can find in open. It is only that I do not agree on how FD has decided (ops, HAVE decided... FD is a company, composed of multiple people and I must use plural terms to refer to them) about the solo/open matter.
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In this post, you've offered a supreme example of the kind of player people avoid meeting by going into solo.
It's a pitiful, spiteful thing.
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I don't think so; FD has said they're commited to the three modes. It would be no skin off their back if only .00percentage of players play open; I believe "open" is just a flag switch. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Now it's me who's out of rep ammo. Consider this a virtualRep for calmly explaining the basis of PP once more.
You're correct.
The three modes are essentially all "Group" modes.
Open is a special group that everyone is a member of.
Solo is a special group that only the player is a member of.
Just curious as to how exactly that would work. Big traders move on anyway, like grazing beasts; that's one of the first things you learn about commodity trading - trade routes are for the most part ephemeral. Rares trade routes are pretty stable due to the nature of rares, so it's impossible to do what you say to them.
You're right; the MultiQuote button appears to be borky for me. The real poster there is Nonya. Sorry about that. Credit given.
You have obviously not taken time to read much in this thread. I have several times called PowerPlay *brilliant* in this megathread. I don't think FD need change it at all. Most of the clamor for changing it is coming from the vociferous minority who are scared someone is doing something "behind their back" and keep ignoring the point that it doesn't work with their chosen confrontational playstyle.
What does this mean? I backed SC also. Has nothing to do with this topic.
No bolded text on numbers 2 & 3?
I'm sorry my attempts to make my points germane by bolding the relevant text seem useless. There's no argument here; it is open sniping.
Just to assure you that I have indeed read your past posts in light of the Multiquote borkage first mentioned in your post #306 in order to correct the attributions as you requested:
Post #59, which calls for special rewards for open players.
Post #61, which also calls for special rewards for open players.
Post #70, in which you take a swipe at Asp regarding hardware issues.
Post #83, which again calls for special rewards for open players. It's also the start of the
'doctors should get more money for treating people in a war zone' thing...
Post #90, "the problem comes because the players that chose Open don't feel adequately rewarded by their decision." More special rewards talk and the strange "rewards like I say don't mean rewards like you say" statements
Post #92, which yet again calls for extra rewards for open players.
Post #96, where you take a gratuitous swipe at Robert. Also, moar special rewards for open players.
Post #102,where you express your fear of solo "ghosts" robbing you.
Post #111,where you bring up pirates as a need for more special rewards for open players.
Post #115, where you insist that special treatment is fair treatment because it has more risks (because of open players) in a mode you freely chose.
Post #121, in which you consider 'extra insurance' as acceptable.
Post #136, where you seem to be arguing that people left open because 'they thought it was riskless but it wasn't". You also start to get your arguments quite fuddled. And there's a gratuitous swipe at the Fuel Rats.
Now those above posts were adequately responded to by myself and others. It was the next two posts I was responding to:
Post #248, which is what my lengthy Post #279 response was for but got borked by Multiquote.
Post #306, which notified me of the error in the Quote sections from posts that weren't yours and which I responded to in Post #312.
Straight now?
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You're right, Mouse; pure comedy gold.
OK, time to do some huge trading behind people's back in my invisible ghost ship
Well, that's me done with Open.
I started playing this game in solo. It made no sense to me why I would offer myself up as laserbait for disgruntled tweeners, so I never bothered. Over time, though, I began to wonder... am I missing out?
So sometime after pledging, I start playing in open. I see a lot of different commanders, but rarely do they ever talk to me, or reply when I talk to them. It doesn't feel much less lonely than it did before, but, ah, well.
Except today. I'm in my power's home system, and I'm running a mission. Bang, interdicted... by someone ALSO PLEDGED TO MY POWER! Why? I'm not wanted. I'm not carrying anything.
I'm inderdicted and I find myself surrounded by four of them. I say "Hello." They immediately open fire. I manage to jump out, but they just interdict me again.
They, once again, immediately open fire. I call out, Why?? We're allies! No response.
I explode. $3.5million hit to the wallet. For NO REASON. And the kicker is, I can't even message them to ask them why, because the game won't let me.
So, you open players can kiss my . You can shove your emergent content right where it doesn't shine. This was in the heart of my power's strength, in what should be the most secure region of space for hundreds of lightyears, and these four clowns are just murdering people out in the open. This is like a gang of serial killers standing at a toll booth on Interstate 95 just stabbing motorists with impunity. It makes NO sense and adds ZERO value to my gaming experience.
Hello to solo, and goodbye to the rest of you.
I started playing this game in solo. It made no sense to me why I would offer myself up as laserbait for disgruntled tweeners, so I never bothered. Over time, though, I began to wonder... am I missing out?
So sometime after pledging, I start playing in open. I see a lot of different commanders, but rarely do they ever talk to me, or reply when I talk to them. It doesn't feel much less lonely than it did before, but, ah, well.
Except today. I'm in my power's home system, and I'm running a mission. Bang, interdicted... by someone ALSO PLEDGED TO MY POWER! Why? I'm not wanted. I'm not carrying anything.
I'm inderdicted and I find myself surrounded by four of them. I say "Hello." They immediately open fire. I manage to jump out, but they just interdict me again.
They, once again, immediately open fire. I call out, Why?? We're allies! No response.
I explode. $3.5million hit to the wallet. For NO REASON. And the kicker is, I can't even message them to ask them why, because the game won't let me.
So, you open players can kiss my . You can shove your emergent content right where it doesn't shine. This was in the heart of my power's strength, in what should be the most secure region of space for hundreds of lightyears, and these four clowns are just murdering people out in the open. This is like a gang of serial killers standing at a toll booth on Interstate 95 just stabbing motorists with impunity. It makes NO sense and adds ZERO value to my gaming experience.
Hello to solo, and goodbye to the rest of you.
if you want not to have that issue you can join Mobius if you'd like, and I am sorry that this happend to you. We try to explain it to them but it doesn't sink in.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38362&page=186&p=2570787#post2570787
That's a shame - Open is not entirely populated by pew-pew-pukes. Play for a bit in Mobius if you'd like to have some player interaction that doesn't involve mindless killing. I stay in Open myself - I find some of the pew-pew antics hilarious - and making pew-pews RAEG is one of my favourite passtimes.
"U ddnt blowz up when I shotz U - U must be uzng CHEETS!"
"No - you simply tried to ram me and kept on missing"
"BUZ I haz BIGGRZ SHIP u N00b!"
lulz
We have to be careful with you Asp.. your starting to talk like them ^,^
I wish I understood why they want to treat people like that and why they try to make others believe there is a problem with open other than themselves.
It's simply ego and wish fulfillment mixed up with a little hero worship. Most (not all) of the pew-pews are in it to show just how good they are and how they can utterly dominate your game, to show superiority and rub your nose in just how poor a player someone is, and that by being such a poor player they deserve to be punished and left in awe of the superior players "skills".
Some are simply in it for the laughs.
I really don't understand the mentality of the former, the latter I can. If the former group want to display skill - then the only way I can suggest they really do so is to really display those skills and take full advantage of them. Lazing on a beach in Panama surrounded by rich supermodels perhaps? Until they achieve that - it's all still pixels in a computer game and they mean nothing.
Sounds more like to me that they want to feel good about themselves so they dominate those weaker instead of looking for real challeges because they would fail.
I would hazard a guess that you are correct - but I have no evidence either way. One thing I find amusing is that if I find a wing of unpleasant players and they jeer at me for running away (which in my lardy Asp is really the only sensible thing to do) there will usually follow taunts along the lines of "Why u n0 fight n00b? skared of <group whatever> u SHUD BE! WE RUELZ!"
I simply smile at those.
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