Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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Liking the refinery idea a lot although as a conceived idea by the devs it sounds pretty convoluted. It's so straight forward it has to be worth a try...
 
You guys saw the posts on reddit? https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange..._the_whole_week_part_of_the_frontierteam_due/

This guy hints at several things about the Artefact:
  • The shape is important, more important than we thought (theories bring up phages)
  • It has to do with something with the Lore (theories reference the phage we used to destroy Thargoid hyperdrive)
  • Most likely a phage. Reddit user mentioned it and the guy said, "It's getting hot in here"
  • Almost assuredly going to announce something important (theories... got nothing. Thargoids?)
  • It's some sort of key. Whether or not a literaly key is unknown

He's not an Frontier employee so he could just be speculating himself. Doesn't explain the sound hint, either.
 
@Lo Lobey - You absolute genius!



Oh [pardon?] me, you're not suggesting another one are you, Bitstorm?! :)
Actually... if you are, and before I get stabbed in the keyboard... another one would be comparatively easy to set up and promote, involve no walls of text from that verbose Luddite Powell, and simply follow the same gist.

The Timocani UA was nabbed about an hour and a half after kick-off. The successful wing of four included two winged ships that were in-system for some time before that, but even so, even accounting for amazing luck, that's the kind of biscuit you can dunk twice.

For my money, anyway, that suggests a substantial jump in spawn rate may very well result from operating in at least one wing in a given system known to spawn at all.

Furthermore, as was noted and enjoyed by the participating commanders, it did also provide an excellent melting pot of direct, swift and amicable communication on the topic of the UAs, the theories and the facts - something that even this thread cannot hope to match useful pace with!

I'm all for trying this again, same time, same place working on the following:


1). All participants to agree UA tested
2). Test agreed in advance
3). Organise now to maximise number of commanders
 
He's not an Frontier employee so he could just be speculating himself. Doesn't explain the sound hint, either.

I did my best to look into it while I was getting ready for work this morning. He admits it's all speculation

He also aludes to the ua mystery being unsolvable in its current state. He seems to change his stance with every post.

I'd say given his lack of credibility in regards to consistent statements, and the fact he's not a dev, he's simply using his "ambassador" status as a way to promote his theories.

He hasn't said anything different that what we have said here. He's likely reading this thread and looking for attention.
 
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yes it's possible.
But how are we supposed to let them know we discovered what is it? With a post on galnet? Shouting?! ;)
There must be an easy in game solution instead.

Liking the refinery idea a lot although as a conceived idea by the devs it sounds pretty convoluted. It's so straight forward it has to be worth a try...

Honestly... Mining is the stepchild of EDs careers.. It would make a ton of sense to hide the answer in that since it would be accessible but completely off most peoples radar.
 
Honestly... Mining is the stepchild of EDs careers.. It would make a ton of sense to hide the answer in that since it would be accessible but completely off most peoples radar.

Very true. Like I said, gotta be worth a try.

The way I see it is that the stuff about it being related to lore and history etc will be regarding the actual outcome of the discovery not the discovery itself, i.e. the thargoids arrive. Surely the solution to this in-game object has to be an in-game one dealing with what we know about the ED engine and its foibles. For example, we know that plagues happen and systems get quarentined. From a game art point of view (I'm a games artist) the thing looks positively contagious.
 
You guys saw the posts on reddit? https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange..._the_whole_week_part_of_the_frontierteam_due/

This guy hints at several things about the Artefact:
  • The shape is important, more important than we thought (theories bring up phages)
  • It has to do with something with the Lore (theories reference the phage we used to destroy Thargoid hyperdrive)
  • Most likely a phage. Reddit user mentioned it and the guy said, "It's getting hot in here"
  • Almost assuredly going to announce something important (theories... got nothing. Thargoids?)
  • It's some sort of key. Whether or not a literaly key is unknown

He's not an Frontier employee so he could just be speculating himself. Doesn't explain the sound hint, either.

Look back about five pages (in this thread). It's all sheer personal speculation with no official input/hints whatsoever.
 
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Someone asked for "The Silent Song of the Spheres" missions... here's one ATM.

The Silent Song of the Spheres.jpg
 
I did my best to look into it while I was getting ready for work this morning. He admits it's all speculation

He also aludes to the ua mystery being unsolvable in its current state. He seems to change his stance with every post.

I'd say given his lack of credibility in regards to consistent statements, and the fact he's not a dev, he's simply using his "ambassador" status as a way to promote his theories.

He hasn't said anything different that what we have said here. He's likely reading this thread and looking for attention.

Look back about five pages (in this thread). It's all sheer personal speculation with no official input/hints whatsoever.

It's not ALL speculation.
He knows some things for sure (I'm referring to the SHAPE, and to the required Lore knowledge), then he speculates on those later on.
 
I'm all for trying this again, same time, same place working on the following:


1). All participants to agree UA tested
2). Test agreed in advance
3). Organise now to maximise number of commanders

Just on these.

(1) That was the entire point of the Biscuit Barrel - so no change there.
(2) Disagree on this, why agree on testing specifics in advance? I can't see a reason, testing priorities change all the time. As long as there is a general consensus after the fact it's fine. By agreeing in advance you discourage participation, the aim is to benefit the group not an individual. Also I think it would encourage rushed/bad testing.
(3) The last was arranged weeks in advance, no change.
 
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Errrrmmmmmm Oppsssssss !!!!!!

The biscuit barrel is no more ! Trying to get my conda close to have a look and it bounced off the shields and went POP ! :-( Sub Cmd Outspan (Aka Wife) is having a fit and shouting at me :-(
However did the following tests

Fuel drone wont lock and launch so nothing
Prospector drone wont target and lock on and couldn't hit it with one
Refinery Bin on board scoped back up and no effect so scratch that one
Last night did Orca testing
Sensors, discovery scanner etc...........
 
I'm thoroughly out of the loop with sap 8.

Have they been hit with every possible scanner yet?

Cargo
Frameshift wake
Kill warrent

Discovery
Surface

Switching ship scanner from logarithmic to linear (in functions tab)

Perhaps our hint from the devs is hidden within the sap 8 container.

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It's not ALL speculation.
He knows some things for sure (I'm referring to the SHAPE, and to the required Lore knowledge), then he speculates on those later on.

Right, but he hasn't said anything we haven't.
 
Hi commanders. Couple things.

Can someone with an Elite / Founder rating pick up & abandon a few missions for transporting SAP 8 containers please. I'm willing to pay for them if that's an issue, name your price. I would like to do a couple of tests to clear up things in the wiki. Please send me a PM if you're in & we can discuss the details.

The more we get the better, with a minimum of 4, ideal 8, max 12 pieces.
1.) I want to reproduce the 8 / 12 SAP 8 tests from before, so we have a few more recordings, preferably recorded from different distances - hoping for at least 3 commanders present.
The point is to see if we can consistently reproduce the "clarification" effect.

As a side note, I will be using collectors and intend to keep all of them safe, to increase the time we can have them out in space, and repeat the test. I know that there's an issue sometimes when collectors die upon delivery with multiple commanders present - but they DO deliver the cargo, and I couldn't care less about limpets' lifetime in this situation.

2) Well, if there is interest in repeating the test, we can go to an unpopulated/anarchy system to avoid bounties when swatting the NPCs - but I doubt the "magic hero security service NPC" would spawn there anyway. Not that I'm concerned about bounties really. What I would like to see is if the non-duplicated UAs interact with each other in any way outside the ship, if we have 3 (or more) in an instance.
We could of course try having them in a single ship's hold, since we're all there.

3) Yeah, emphasis on non-duplicated. I'm not sure how that bug worked - I did see a video of it, and to me it looked like it could have been an intentional feature.... did we get confirmation that it was a bug, did it get fixed? (I faintly remember reading cargo duplication fixes in one of the patch notes, but that time I didn't know about this thread, or what it was... can someone confirm?)

I was also wondering about combining more of the same things together, hence the request for Hafnium. The reason is that the UA has 12 "ports" - maybe ejecting/holding just a few of these containers is not enough.
I am in complete agreement with you! My experimental outline is essentially the same as yours, with the addition of a SAP8 and Hafnium in the holds of each ship as well, and 1 or 2 ships in the firing line "looking down the barrel" of the UA when it decays in space, screams, explodes and shoots off the plasma/distortion.

@Ratking15, @Wishblend, @RedWizzard and other UA finders/holders - please read this new idea... (haven't seen it elsewhere and I've read a lot!)

The devs encouraged us to "listen to them" - who says it is the UA itself we need to listen to?
The Universe is packed with sounds including planets. We can hear sounds from planets and stars on maps but also when we are close to them.

Did you guys try and fly as close as possible to the planet where the UA was at and listen to the planet?

My speculation is that the UA are a link to the upcoming planetary landing expansion. Maybe the planet next to the UA gives out sounds with clues in them? Maybe it is the planets we need to listen to?
I've done a lot of planet listening, and in the few days I was carrying Cmdr Branch's UA I didn't notice anything unusual in the planet soundscapes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...ole_week_part_of_the_frontierteam_due/ctxvlwt
[–]erpunktrckstr 1 point 16 minutes ago

Cerebus plague?


[–]TiSoBrTimothy Belesal[S] 1 point 15 minutes ago
Mass Effect was amazing.




He just posted this.

Make anything of it?
Cerberus was a human supremacy group that was declared terrorist by both the Earth and Citadel governments.
One of their experiments was to bring back the rachni from the edge of extinction. Rachni are insectoid and follow a hive community organisation. The queen "sings" to her workers to educate and sooth them. Without the "singing", the workers go insane. The comparison is with the Reaper "indoctrination" where Reapers can take control of populations with a field/signal generated by their presence.
If you follow the Paragon path in Mass Efffect, you can save the rachni queen.
Info: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Rachni

And it is completely unrelated to UA investigation. :)

Even if I'm on this since day one, I cannot remember if this very simple test was done:

1) deploy the UA.
2) check the navigation panel and take note of all the systems in there
3) scoop the UA
4) see if some NEW system shows up with the UA in hold
Thanks for that!
Btw it remains a good test to do in lore sensitive zones: Soontill, Altair, Achenar, Sirius, and most of all...
POLARIS!
I'm still hoping that some hidden system could show up somewhere...
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2) Letting it expire near or inside a station, with a ship very close to its mouth, with FSD charged and ready (two tests in one)
Done next door to Polaris. No systems appeared or disappeared, and Polaris stayed red "Permit required" with the UA both inside and outside the ship. I agree with the decay test though, as mentioned higher up in this post.
Honestly... Mining is the stepchild of EDs careers.. It would make a ton of sense to hide the answer in that since it would be accessible but completely off most peoples radar.
I do a couple of hours mining once in a while since the failed mining CG. The problem is simply one of scale. Where in all the places in the galaxy do you look? Asteroid belts? Pristine Metallic rings? Which planet? Which system?
I'm not saying ignore the mining angle, but until we have something more concrete to go on, put it on pause for now.
 
Errrrmmmmmm Oppsssssss !!!!!!

The biscuit barrel is no more ! Trying to get my conda close to have a look and it bounced off the shields and went POP ! :-( Sub Cmd Outspan (Aka Wife) is having a fit and shouting at me :-(
However did the following tests

Fuel drone wont lock and launch so nothing
Prospector drone wont target and lock on and couldn't hit it with one
Refinery Bin on board scoped back up and no effect so scratch that one
Last night did Orca testing
Sensors, discovery scanner etc...........

I'm sorry :(

Tthanks for the Refinery and Orca test.
Btw I wonder if you did a video of the Orca test, because I'd like to listen to it myself, expecially for the VID 8 morse code that most of you are not able to hear well, while I hear it perfectly.
I wonder if something changed in that particular sound whit the Orca listening to it.
I hope you listened to the UA from inside your Orca as well.
 
It's not ALL speculation.
He knows some things for sure (I'm referring to the SHAPE, and to the required Lore knowledge), then he speculates on those later on.

Sorry but I'm gonna say something similar to what was said earlier, the original poster knows who he is.

Simply put - unless it comes directly from an FD employee then I don't trust it at all, and I wish all the 2nd/3rd/2^32 hand cr@p would just stop.

I'm not interested in some random drunk no-mark ambassador's speculation based on something he, or she, reckons they've been told or 'extracted'.

It contributes nothing positive, because it can't be substantiated. And it could be argued the very fact that he reckons the 'shape is important', and that's more than Kerrash has said - given they're both likely under the same NDAs - then the trustworthiness of this person is by definition suspect.
 
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