Hello, this is exactly what I been looking for for my vrone hmd + Samsung s5 Prime. I tried to allay your first patch but failed miserably. I then tried a different sweetxf and copied the bits over you pointed out. All worked but the veiwports were wonky.... then i finally went on to your reshade pack. Tridef refuses to work and I get errors with my Arma 3. It keeps saying cant create DX11 device. Tride testing on crysis 3 but that didn't even load. The main game is getting Arma 3 to work. Any ideals? Thanks.
Playing Elite with Google Cardboard
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I finally got around to updating the OP - in case anybody is still using it. Opentrack is no longer needed, so I took that out. If you get some tracking glitches, try the different smooting options in the app.
Trinus with Freetrack and tetra's SweetFX shaders for aspect ratio have made this cheapo VR setup much better. Personally, I still wouldn't use this for extended play, but it works and I can imagine others - with better computers - using this now.
Trinus with Freetrack and tetra's SweetFX shaders for aspect ratio have made this cheapo VR setup much better. Personally, I still wouldn't use this for extended play, but it works and I can imagine others - with better computers - using this now.
Has anyone tried this with an iPhone? There's an app out called VR Streamer that I hear is better than Trinius.
Hi and welcome to the forum, I've merged your thread into the main one, hopefully you'll find the info you need in here.
Oh god, now I give up. I had just too many difficulties, bad hardware, lagging and crashing software etc. But idea is great and I had brief moment when this worked long enough to get to the cockpit of T-6 and oh my, cockpit and canopy looks so BIG! I always thought that seat looks too small inside big glassstructure when looking from the outside of the ship. Well, in 2d you just can't see how much space you really have and how high up the upper part of the canopy really is!
I so regret that I did not buy dk2 after my dk1's screen died about a year ago, decided to wait CV1... Now it is so close that I can barely wait, but buying dk2 now is not reasonable... I guess...
I so regret that I did not buy dk2 after my dk1's screen died about a year ago, decided to wait CV1... Now it is so close that I can barely wait, but buying dk2 now is not reasonable... I guess...
Are people still doing this? Can anyone find a working link of the sweetFX shaders?
I've done this with my OneplusOne Trinus VR for sensors and Moonlight for video. Everything works great on the video part. I am streaming 1080p at 30fps with my PC wired to the router and my phone wireless at a 23ms latency or a little less.
The shaders I took from this website guide : http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=21174
I used the Re-Shade version of the shaders as they where the ones that worked for me :
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/916762/3D LENSE FOR RESHADE.zip
PS:
I also modified the shader parameters a bit. Let me know how they work for you and we will discuss this further.
PPS:
All credits on the shader and setup go to:
Tetra : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/member.php?u=43965
The shaders I took from this website guide : http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=21174
I used the Re-Shade version of the shaders as they where the ones that worked for me :
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/916762/3D LENSE FOR RESHADE.zip
PS:
I also modified the shader parameters a bit. Let me know how they work for you and we will discuss this further.
PPS:
All credits on the shader and setup go to:
Tetra : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/member.php?u=43965
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My Latest attempt with the Colorcross and Trinus VR.
My Latest attempt with the Colorcross and Trinus VR.
After some time I decided to give it another try with my colorcross and Trinus. This time the headtraking seemed to work and the display only needed some twerking I guess but I encountered a major problem. With headtracking on ingame the cockpit started to flicker and flashing around making it unuseable. Has anyone experienced that as well?
Basically the cockpit disapears and reappears all the time in a flickering manner, also the headtracking seems to not work properly, any suggestions maybe?
Basically the cockpit disapears and reappears all the time in a flickering manner, also the headtracking seems to not work properly, any suggestions maybe?
I've just been figuring out how Trinus VR works. Like the OP, it's moved on a lot since the days of Trinus Gyre. I've tried with a Samsung Galaxy S6, and a VR Box headset. Using 802.11ac I get pretty fluid streaming of 1920x1080, but too frequently it suddenly centres itself on some random point. USB tethering is slower, and so blocky it was more like a MODE 2 version of the Master 128 version of Elite. However, it was playable in longer bursts until horizontal drift was making me think if it was worth getting a swivel chair. An in-game drift reset would be really handy.
The optics in the VR Box are insufficient to correct for my eyes, yet it is possible to wear glasses (holding at least 50mm diameter lenses), underneath. Still, this only helped to enumerate the blocks more quickly; reading text any distance away from the centre is a non-starter. Oh, and extra foam is needed if you have a narrow nose.
All the above was to be expected for what I'd call SCIIVR (Speculative Cheap Investigation Into Virtual Reality). The official kit we're all waiting for - with in-game support - has to nail all of these issues, and I have little doubt that they'll all be significantly improved.
Despite all that, it's done its job: I'm absolutely convinced VR is the way to go for Elite: Dangerous in all its Seasons. I'll be going down the HTC Vive route, and now I legitimately need Voice Attack.
The optics in the VR Box are insufficient to correct for my eyes, yet it is possible to wear glasses (holding at least 50mm diameter lenses), underneath. Still, this only helped to enumerate the blocks more quickly; reading text any distance away from the centre is a non-starter. Oh, and extra foam is needed if you have a narrow nose.
All the above was to be expected for what I'd call SCIIVR (Speculative Cheap Investigation Into Virtual Reality). The official kit we're all waiting for - with in-game support - has to nail all of these issues, and I have little doubt that they'll all be significantly improved.
Despite all that, it's done its job: I'm absolutely convinced VR is the way to go for Elite: Dangerous in all its Seasons. I'll be going down the HTC Vive route, and now I legitimately need Voice Attack.
Nice!! I like it!
Just backed this on Kickstarter, due to be delivered in February. I will do a review when it arrives. Native support for Trinus VR is being built in.
http://www.auravisor.com/
http://www.auravisor.com/
I got my Nexus 5 running with USB tethered trinus with ED running on a 1080p Monitor and a AMD graphics card (R9 280). Running with resoltions below 1080p in ED is no problem, but i cannot get a 1920x2160 custom resolution up and running....
Using custom resolution tweaks for AMD cards is not helping, when setting the resolution in the XML, after starting ED it always switches back to 1777x1000...
How do you all get 1920x2160 running? Is it simply not possible using a 1080p Monitor, so do you all have 4K monitors? I know that my monitor can not display this resolution, but i thought it should be still possible to render a window running in a higher resolution, even it can only be displayed part if it...
Using custom resolution tweaks for AMD cards is not helping, when setting the resolution in the XML, after starting ED it always switches back to 1777x1000...
How do you all get 1920x2160 running? Is it simply not possible using a 1080p Monitor, so do you all have 4K monitors? I know that my monitor can not display this resolution, but i thought it should be still possible to render a window running in a higher resolution, even it can only be displayed part if it...
Has anybody managed to get Trinus VR working with freetrack on Horizons?
Hello Phoenix_Dfire, i had the same problem. Tracking was working on 32 bit Version of Elite but not on 64 bit Horizons. Testing freetrack using facetracknoir on the other hand was working ok.
So after a bit of experimenting i guessed that only the needed dlls where missing in trinus vr. After copying NPClient64.dll and FreeTrackClient64.dll into the TrinusVR\ext trinus vr was working
also with Elite Dangerous Horizons. I even got the feeling the lacency is now a bit better. I hope this helps.
Hi all,
I've been experimenting to get this working for a few days now and thought I'd report my findings. Obviously a lot of the information out there (from late 2014 / early 2015) is already out dated. There's a lot of now defunct information to wade through, a lot of dead ends but also some critical information amongst the pages of issues and attempts by everyone. I've tried pretty much everything - Opentrack / FreetrackNoIR / SweetFX + Re-shade / FreePIE / Trinus VR / Moonlight (previously known as limelight) / nVidia GameSTREAM / 2x Headsets / 2x Phones (Nexus 5 / One Plus X). I had the game working with FacetrackNoIR (not in VR) using a Microsoft VX-5000 webcam, but even tweaking the set-up curves (and trying a few posted here) the movement was too erratic to be useful in real games (although the system did generally work. Using a gyro from the phone is the way to go for the best experience, unfortunately I've really struggled to get it working. A feel between the gap of ED going to 64bit and Trinus VR not having updated to support tracking natively it seems (see ayhinger's notes above for the solution, and links for files below)
My system for reference:
Windows 10 Pro 64bit
GTX 970
Haswell i5 @ 4.3Ghz
TP-Link Archer VR900 (reasonably well spec'd router with dual band and good throughput)
Nexus 5
My set-up is as follows:
Nexus 5 < Wi-fi < Router > LAN cable > PC
Through trial and error here's where I'm at:
What you need:
Trinus VR - Combined app for streaming video and making head tracking input work in-game. Download app from Google Play and Windows 10 version online. App is £5 off GooglePlay
Moonlight - Free open-source app to allow streaming using nVidia's gameSTREAM technology. You can stream with other adapters built into Trinus VR, but I wouldn't recommend it, this provides good quality video and low latency.
SweetFX + Re-shade. See astearon's post #288 for links, or use my zip (see Downloads section) This corrects the warping distortion by using Elite's built in Side-by-side option in the graphics menu. No need for hacked custom resolutions if you use this (and I suspect better performance as a result?!)
Geforce experience
Steam (with Elite installed via Steam). There are hacks, but moonlight doesn't currently pickup non-steam copies of Elite as an option to stream at present.
Once you have Trinus VR running on your phone and PC, and you've opened the required ports. I recommend switching to Advanced mode for a cleaner interface (sorry loxai your "basic" mode UI is really bad
). To do this click the 'cogs' symbol and go to "advanced mode" from the menu.
Here's some screenshots of my settings for reference:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3Wkw4OEVSTG1FWkE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3RWQtODlpM2ZZYVE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3Zm1JTDMzVWQ4dVE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3UEl3M3N3UFBiamc/view?usp=sharing
Main points are
Capture Mode: Moonlight
Sensor Output: Freetrack
Rotation sensitivity values around 25-30% (under 'sensor' tab)
Assign reset key to centre your view should drift occur (I have Num lock Enter for easy locating when the HMD is on and you're locating by touch only!)
Step-by-step
1) Install all programs and files - nvidia geforce experience (PC) / moonlight (phone app) / Trinus VR (both PC and app) / Apply Trinus DLL patch / Sweet FX files to Elite installer folder
2) Open moonlight app on your phone. A list of all compatible devices on the same network will be displayed so you can select one to pair with. Choose your main PC and a pop-up box will appear on your PC with a PIN code on your phone to enter. Do this and your devices will be paired. You can now exit moonlight app.
3) Open Trinus VR on both PC and phone. Check ports and IP address are open / match, set-up and per my screenshots, and press the triangle symbol to connect. Recommend doing to on your phone, then the PC. If all is well moonlight should start up (grey screen showing symbol for your main PC). click on that, then a list of all stream-able games will be shown, along with a Steam icon. Click on the steam icon and Big Picture mode will launch on your phone and PC simultaneously. Now you can browse to your Elite install and launch (you will be prompted for Elite or "VR mode" when launching, all I can tell it that it bypasses the launcher when selecting VR mode, so do that (saves a button click )
4) If you've imported the 64bit DLL I'd listed below Freetrack (head tracking) should work once you're in-game (not at menus obviously) automatically, when moving your phone. Hopefully the video quality is usable. I use 1080p in-game and have moonlight stream at 1080p 60fps in the app settings (requires stable 20Mbps data-rate for default quality settings)
Notes:
* This only works for nvidia GPU's. I believe there's an ATI alternative but I haven't researched it
* You'll need to download Geforce Experience, open up and go to "Shield" tab to set-up and account with them so you can login to use the gameSTREAM functionality that the open-source 'moonlight' app utilities (it's free and takes only a minute)
* Make sure Elite is running no higher than the resolution of your phone display
* Set side-by-side mode in Elite graphic options
* If you have a powerful enough GPU (GTX 970 or higher) set AA to FXAA and Supersampling to 1.5 in Elite's graphics options for improved text legibility
* Enable V-sync to 60Mhz (might be unnecessary, but I do)
* Make sure the ports listed in Trinus VR for the Sensors and Video input (under 'Network' tab) as open in your Windows firewall
* Ensure Phone & PC are connected to the same network so they can connect (same router via ethernet or wifi)
* Ensure IP address on Trinus VR PC GUI (in 'Network' tab) matches the one shown on the App screen (this is the IP of your PC for reference)
* No need to enable USB tethering for this method as some of the videos show, my tests found it to be flaky and wifi providing sufficient bandwidth and low latency using moonlight/gamestream (nvidia GPU's only). Results will depend on your router speeds.
* See vayhinger's post above. Trinus VR doesn't ship with necessary 64bit dll for Freetrack to work with Elite at the time of writing (so my testing would indicate). You need to download them (see my link below) and insert them into the "ext" folder inside the Trinus VR install dir (along with 2 existing non-64 bit versions already present with the same names for reference). These files were acquired from an install of FacetrackNoIR, so you can skip having to get them yourself
Even with all that I still experience the rapid flashing on a static cockpit image between (working) head tracking images as Al33 describes in post #290. For reference if you focus on a cockpit menu the flickering immediately stops but returns when you centre the view again
Hopefully this can be solved as otherwise the experience seems to be working in all areas (video quality / tracking accurancy / latency).
Downloads:
SweetFX (see readme inside zip)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3bHRkeFR2S1d5OTA/view?usp=sharing
Trinus VR - Freetrack 64bit DLL's (install to ...Trinus VR / ext / *here*)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3cWhqRzcyYlpUQlE/view?usp=sharing
I've been experimenting to get this working for a few days now and thought I'd report my findings. Obviously a lot of the information out there (from late 2014 / early 2015) is already out dated. There's a lot of now defunct information to wade through, a lot of dead ends but also some critical information amongst the pages of issues and attempts by everyone. I've tried pretty much everything - Opentrack / FreetrackNoIR / SweetFX + Re-shade / FreePIE / Trinus VR / Moonlight (previously known as limelight) / nVidia GameSTREAM / 2x Headsets / 2x Phones (Nexus 5 / One Plus X). I had the game working with FacetrackNoIR (not in VR) using a Microsoft VX-5000 webcam, but even tweaking the set-up curves (and trying a few posted here) the movement was too erratic to be useful in real games (although the system did generally work. Using a gyro from the phone is the way to go for the best experience, unfortunately I've really struggled to get it working. A feel between the gap of ED going to 64bit and Trinus VR not having updated to support tracking natively it seems (see ayhinger's notes above for the solution, and links for files below)
My system for reference:
Windows 10 Pro 64bit
GTX 970
Haswell i5 @ 4.3Ghz
TP-Link Archer VR900 (reasonably well spec'd router with dual band and good throughput)
Nexus 5
My set-up is as follows:
Nexus 5 < Wi-fi < Router > LAN cable > PC
Through trial and error here's where I'm at:
What you need:
Trinus VR - Combined app for streaming video and making head tracking input work in-game. Download app from Google Play and Windows 10 version online. App is £5 off GooglePlay
Moonlight - Free open-source app to allow streaming using nVidia's gameSTREAM technology. You can stream with other adapters built into Trinus VR, but I wouldn't recommend it, this provides good quality video and low latency.
SweetFX + Re-shade. See astearon's post #288 for links, or use my zip (see Downloads section) This corrects the warping distortion by using Elite's built in Side-by-side option in the graphics menu. No need for hacked custom resolutions if you use this (and I suspect better performance as a result?!)
Geforce experience
Steam (with Elite installed via Steam). There are hacks, but moonlight doesn't currently pickup non-steam copies of Elite as an option to stream at present.
Once you have Trinus VR running on your phone and PC, and you've opened the required ports. I recommend switching to Advanced mode for a cleaner interface (sorry loxai your "basic" mode UI is really bad
). To do this click the 'cogs' symbol and go to "advanced mode" from the menu.Here's some screenshots of my settings for reference:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3Wkw4OEVSTG1FWkE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3RWQtODlpM2ZZYVE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3Zm1JTDMzVWQ4dVE/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3UEl3M3N3UFBiamc/view?usp=sharing
Main points are
Capture Mode: Moonlight
Sensor Output: Freetrack
Rotation sensitivity values around 25-30% (under 'sensor' tab)
Assign reset key to centre your view should drift occur (I have Num lock Enter for easy locating when the HMD is on and you're locating by touch only!)
Step-by-step
1) Install all programs and files - nvidia geforce experience (PC) / moonlight (phone app) / Trinus VR (both PC and app) / Apply Trinus DLL patch / Sweet FX files to Elite installer folder
2) Open moonlight app on your phone. A list of all compatible devices on the same network will be displayed so you can select one to pair with. Choose your main PC and a pop-up box will appear on your PC with a PIN code on your phone to enter. Do this and your devices will be paired. You can now exit moonlight app.
3) Open Trinus VR on both PC and phone. Check ports and IP address are open / match, set-up and per my screenshots, and press the triangle symbol to connect. Recommend doing to on your phone, then the PC. If all is well moonlight should start up (grey screen showing symbol for your main PC). click on that, then a list of all stream-able games will be shown, along with a Steam icon. Click on the steam icon and Big Picture mode will launch on your phone and PC simultaneously. Now you can browse to your Elite install and launch (you will be prompted for Elite or "VR mode" when launching, all I can tell it that it bypasses the launcher when selecting VR mode, so do that (saves a button click
)4) If you've imported the 64bit DLL I'd listed below Freetrack (head tracking) should work once you're in-game (not at menus obviously) automatically, when moving your phone. Hopefully the video quality is usable. I use 1080p in-game and have moonlight stream at 1080p 60fps in the app settings (requires stable 20Mbps data-rate for default quality settings)
Notes:
* This only works for nvidia GPU's. I believe there's an ATI alternative but I haven't researched it
* You'll need to download Geforce Experience, open up and go to "Shield" tab to set-up and account with them so you can login to use the gameSTREAM functionality that the open-source 'moonlight' app utilities (it's free and takes only a minute)
* Make sure Elite is running no higher than the resolution of your phone display
* Set side-by-side mode in Elite graphic options
* If you have a powerful enough GPU (GTX 970 or higher) set AA to FXAA and Supersampling to 1.5 in Elite's graphics options for improved text legibility
* Enable V-sync to 60Mhz (might be unnecessary, but I do)
* Make sure the ports listed in Trinus VR for the Sensors and Video input (under 'Network' tab) as open in your Windows firewall
* Ensure Phone & PC are connected to the same network so they can connect (same router via ethernet or wifi)
* Ensure IP address on Trinus VR PC GUI (in 'Network' tab) matches the one shown on the App screen (this is the IP of your PC for reference)
* No need to enable USB tethering for this method as some of the videos show, my tests found it to be flaky and wifi providing sufficient bandwidth and low latency using moonlight/gamestream (nvidia GPU's only). Results will depend on your router speeds.
* See vayhinger's post above. Trinus VR doesn't ship with necessary 64bit dll for Freetrack to work with Elite at the time of writing (so my testing would indicate). You need to download them (see my link below) and insert them into the "ext" folder inside the Trinus VR install dir (along with 2 existing non-64 bit versions already present with the same names for reference). These files were acquired from an install of FacetrackNoIR, so you can skip having to get them yourself
Even with all that I still experience the rapid flashing on a static cockpit image between (working) head tracking images as Al33 describes in post #290. For reference if you focus on a cockpit menu the flickering immediately stops but returns when you centre the view again
Hopefully this can be solved as otherwise the experience seems to be working in all areas (video quality / tracking accurancy / latency).
Downloads:
SweetFX (see readme inside zip)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3bHRkeFR2S1d5OTA/view?usp=sharing
Trinus VR - Freetrack 64bit DLL's (install to ...Trinus VR / ext / *here*)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1KboO68PzH3cWhqRzcyYlpUQlE/view?usp=sharing
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