Horizons Separate Release on Steam.

WafflelordJay

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As you all know Elite: Horizons has a separate release on steam. As an person who previously purchased the game (pre-ordered Horizons :D) i'm not okay with it. I know its a way so the can make the most off the expansion, but for me I see it like this, now I have too separate games in my library. I like to see the hours I have played, and its pretty weird for me just to ditch that wonderful little hour mark for a 0 hours played mark. I'm going to try to figure a way around it but eh, just me ranting. Anyways, how about them planetary landings!
 
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Aussiedroid

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You mean its setup as a new completely separate game and not a DLC in the existing ED?

If so that is very disappointing... can you imagine what it would be like in the years to come having a list of ED clients all separated with own hours logged etc. Not the best way to do it at all!
 

Fangwulf

Fangwulf
I was thinking it would be released as a Steam DLC, rather than a whole new game. Another thing I am thoroughly confused about: does a new player have to buy have to buy both ED and ED: Horizons? Or can they just buy Horizons and get the full game as well? I viewed Horizons as DLC, not as ED-with-Horizons in one package. If it's not DLC, then I guess it makes sense to have it as a separate game on Steam, since I can just add my hours. Additionally, that makes me wonder if Horizons players and non-Horizons players can see each other, or even 64-bit vs 32-bit players? I assume they can or lots of people would be upset. I don't really care, none of my friends play anymore (can't wait for AI wings). What I would rather have are soccer balls so we can play on planets! Or actual race events!
 

Aussiedroid

Aussiedroid
Yeah it seems it correct, searched on Steam and its comes up as a new game!! Wow!

What a backwards way of doing it! I don't like this at all.
 

Lee N Tien

Lee N Tien
Well, on Steam you can't buy DLC without purchasing the game. But if you buy Horizons, you get the basic game as well.
So, they could have released a dlc for those, who have elite already, and make it 10% cheaper (reflecting that loyalty bonuse you get in their shop as well), and a separate game as well, for the full price... but, I guess, that's to much bother?..
 

Aussiedroid

Aussiedroid
So not only are the hours not going to accumulate together from playing the same game, but also will segment the community with all the other features like discussions, screenshots etc. People will not see the great guides created under the original release of ED either, and will have to repost the same thing again under the new game. I am not sure if I can be bothered reposting my own X55 guide simply to create a copy you can see while playing Horizons. Separate reviews too. If I am following both games, I am likely to get the same news posted on each version duplicating in my Activity Feed. Sure some of this can be worked around but seriously messy way of doing it.

With Frontier mentioning a 10 year plan, I can just see the mess this will create for Steam users, having potentially 10+ versions of the game listed in their library.

Does this also mean I need to have separate installations for each, duplicating much of what is already installed, taking up more hard drive space? Will I need to separate or setup all my controls again too, setup graphic card settings independently for each version.

I'll check it out more myself when I am finished work and when I can generate a key to activate on Steam, but again, this is really not the best way to manage things.

Was this just a lazy way of adding it or are there other reason why its been setup as a separate/new game? I cant see any positive reason to do it this way :(
 
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Athelny

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Aussiedroid said:
Does this also mean I need to have separate installations for each, duplicating much of what is already installed, taking up more hard drive space? Will I need to separate or setup all my controls again too, setup graphic card settings independently for each version.
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Yes, it's a separare install. Actually, the original E:D install folder is large than the Horizons one. Also, your controls carry over, so.. there's that?

But I agree that having separate launchers is quite stupid, and it annoys me more than it should that my game time won't carry over into Horizons, and eventually future expansions. Maybe I should keep playing non-Horizons on the default launcher and hope that they fix this stupid issue in the future? I don't know, but it makes me upset.
 

Aussiedroid

Aussiedroid
Good to know on the controller config side of things .. that's a small positive I guess... and guess I can uninstall the old one if I need the HD space. Still baffling segregating the customer base like that, I mean its still having both playing in the same game world.

If a Season pass is considered a new game perhaps we should get a new CMDR slot now for the new version .. seems logical in an illogical way Lol!

And yeah, not tracking the hours together is a bummer, it is something I like in Steam, and was heading to be my first 1000hr game.. oh wells. First world issues and all that jazz... :)
 

Richter

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This is a very big issue with Horizons. I don't want to have 10 installations of the same game so I can play with my friends.
 

Richter

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Richter said:
This is a very big issue with Horizons. I don't want to have 10 installations of the same game so I can play with my friends.
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And since I can't edit my comments:
I don't want to have a separate game for each DLC, when Steam has amazing support for them. Who even came up with this idea? "Hey guys, lets make every DLC a separate game for no reason! Everyone will love it!"
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londonx

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Are you all seriously that stupid? Elite Horizons is a new season (2.0) with brand new minimum machine specs. It's not a DLC. Like Fifa 2016 is not a DLC or the various releases of Assassins Creed or Civilisation.... Insert any other game series throughout the history of games.

Unlike those however, EVERYONE no matter which series they have plays in the same universe so no one gets splintered! This has all been spelt out quite clearly in the forums since the beginning about the release model. I'm sure at some point older client versions will be retired but it won't stop people remaining on a previous season so that they may depress themselves with the sad waste of life that the total hours spent on a computer game shows up ;)
 

Aussiedroid

Aussiedroid
londonx said:
Are you all seriously that stupid? Elite Horizons is a new season (2.0) with brand new minimum machine specs. It's not a DLC. Like Fifa 2016 is not a DLC or the various releases of Assassins Creed or Civilisation.... Insert any other game series throughout the history of games.

Unlike those however, EVERYONE no matter which series they have plays in the same universe so no one gets splintered! This has all been spelt out quite clearly in the forums since the beginning about the release model. I'm sure at some point older client versions will be retired but it won't stop people remaining on a previous season so that they may depress themselves with the sad waste of life that the total hours spent on a computer game shows up ;)
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Firstly, no need to be rude.

You can call it a season pass, DLC or whatever, but it is playing in the same game enviroment as the standard game, simply with a different feature list. Same game world, same commander etc. I can spout many more examples of it done the other way too, but in this example it makes more sense to have this as part of the ED main game rather than a separate one.
 

Lee N Tien

Lee N Tien
Steam is THE reason, why they cannot do exactly this. You cannot buy Europe Universalis IV: Common sense without buying the base game first. Horizons contains the base game as well.
 

Richter

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Lee N Tien said:
Steam is THE reason, why they cannot do exactly this. You cannot buy Europe Universalis IV: Common sense without buying the base game first. Horizons contains the base game as well.
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You used an example that proves my point. However you can actually buy the dlc without the base game, you can't play it. And when you buy the dlc with its base game, it's displayed as the base game+dlc. Not base game and a separate base game+dlc1.
 

Lee N Tien

Lee N Tien
Exactly.
While Horizons is the Base game + dlc, as far as Steam is concerned.
To release it on steam, they'd have to cut out the base game. To apply it on top of the steam elite dangerous base. And every new player would have to buy the base game first, then horizons. While at the moment you just buy horizons and get it all.
 

Aussiedroid

Aussiedroid
Looking today on the reviews on Steam, it seems the Steam public tends to agree it should have been under the main game not a separate purchase.
 
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