I dont mind ingame commercials at spacestations or ingame news. If its mcdoalds, coke, cillit bang, skoda, or libresse. I dont care. As long as they are hosted on FD servers, checked for malware and in a fun spacey-tune!
In-game Advertising?
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I actually think for many games this is a really good way of generating cash, with no downside.
A football game where the sponsors change dynamically, or a racing game with giant billboards - hell, having real adverts adds to authenticity not the other way around.
but a game set miles into the distant future is a tough one.
Will burger king or coke really still be going then??
I suppose if it is done tastefully it may not be that jarring, but say, a car add for the new mazda 6 would be rubbish!.
so in conclusion. Overall If done well I see in game advertising as a good thing, but I dont see how it can fit in a futuristic game. Maybe they should do it with zoo tycoon instead.
A football game where the sponsors change dynamically, or a racing game with giant billboards - hell, having real adverts adds to authenticity not the other way around.
but a game set miles into the distant future is a tough one.
Will burger king or coke really still be going then??
I suppose if it is done tastefully it may not be that jarring, but say, a car add for the new mazda 6 would be rubbish!.
so in conclusion. Overall If done well I see in game advertising as a good thing, but I dont see how it can fit in a futuristic game. Maybe they should do it with zoo tycoon instead.
After docking when you drop down into the hanger there are ad boards there. I fully expect to see ad's on buildings or in the streets when we head down to the planets surface. After all what would a city look like without adverts. Actually I am intrigued to see what corporations would still exist in the time Elite is set. After all the mark of a good corporation is adapting to meet the times.
Imagine going to Macdonalds in Jan 2015 and the happy meal you buy for your kids comes with a Cobra Mark III. In game the advertising is for the Macdonalds Happy Meal.
Imagine going to Macdonalds in Jan 2015 and the happy meal you buy for your kids comes with a Cobra Mark III. In game the advertising is for the Macdonalds Happy Meal.
No, afaik the text gives no right to install adware - and clearly limits any advertising to online modes only.
Regarding the possibility of in game advertising, this has been discussed before. I have no issues with it as long as it is contextually acceptable and non intrusive. The Blade Runner coke advert is a good example, as are product placements when we get the expansion (e.g. NPCs with a Dell computer). Of course that the brand and the product must make sense in the ED universe. So no car or car manufacturers as spaceship builders when there are none flying around from hose companies. Also, the real companies advertising should be mixed with fantasy ones.
I'm fine with those as long as they serve as a public warning.
Dedicated to all historical and future victims of the Invisible Space Mesh.
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Non-intrusive only
I don't care about ads at all (I mostly will ignore them if present), especially if they support the upkeep of FD servers and avoid/reduce subscription fees.
Where I would draw the line, however, is if they interrupt gameplay or obscure elements of the UI like most, if not all, iOS/Android touch device based ads where a slight mis-tap leads to the advertisers site.
If the ads are non-intrusive and in the background, like on bill boards in the stations or on planets, I have no problem.
I don't care about ads at all (I mostly will ignore them if present), especially if they support the upkeep of FD servers and avoid/reduce subscription fees.
Where I would draw the line, however, is if they interrupt gameplay or obscure elements of the UI like most, if not all, iOS/Android touch device based ads where a slight mis-tap leads to the advertisers site.
If the ads are non-intrusive and in the background, like on bill boards in the stations or on planets, I have no problem.
I honestly have no problems with this. I already have different games with this (Burnout paradise one for all)... and it's kind of ok.
IF it has an effect for Frontier economy. That is, if it helps them keep the game afloat.
If I have to see ads and also dish out every now and then a tenner just because it's sour times, well sorry then, remove the ads. Or replace them at the very least with in game lore.
I would assume that most of the ads would be for Computer related hardware or specific software releases, like new Frontier games. Or expansions.
If played out smartly it could even be cool.
There are lots of "If" in this post though.
IF it has an effect for Frontier economy. That is, if it helps them keep the game afloat.
If I have to see ads and also dish out every now and then a tenner just because it's sour times, well sorry then, remove the ads. Or replace them at the very least with in game lore.
I would assume that most of the ads would be for Computer related hardware or specific software releases, like new Frontier games. Or expansions.
If played out smartly it could even be cool.
There are lots of "If" in this post though.
Popups during combat? Love it. Have crew for that.
The best wuld be to haul 1200 tonnes of womens supplies in my Panther Clipper. Pirates wuld think twice before wanting to scoop up 1.200.000.000 pads ...
The best wuld be to haul 1200 tonnes of womens supplies in my Panther Clipper. Pirates wuld think twice before wanting to scoop up 1.200.000.000 pads ...
It is the language around these third party adverts collecting my personal info that i like the least (i have no issue with suitable adverts being displayed in the game), in particular because it is not exactly defined what they will be allowed to collect, or not allowed to collect.
They mention IP and location as specific things, but the rest sounds rather like 'and whatever else they ask us to', which is not great.
This is all academic for me as i'm an Elite player for the SP game experience, but i would imagine i would look to set either my firewall or router up to block this stuff if it was getting too draconian.
There is a reason i don't use Facebook etc, and i'd hate that to become the same reason to not use Elite: Dangerous as well.
They mention IP and location as specific things, but the rest sounds rather like 'and whatever else they ask us to', which is not great.
This is all academic for me as i'm an Elite player for the SP game experience, but i would imagine i would look to set either my firewall or router up to block this stuff if it was getting too draconian.
There is a reason i don't use Facebook etc, and i'd hate that to become the same reason to not use Elite: Dangerous as well.
We spotted it back in December, had a huge barney left right and centre. FD never put their oar in. Kept quiet, if I recall correctly.
As I remember, Anarchy Online was the first game to try this sort of stuff. They even introduced a slash command that would let you order stuff direct from Domino's Pizza if you were in the USA.
I can understand it's use in a sports games such as the NFL, FIFA or Formula 1 series but unless a game is set in the real world here and now (Call of Duty is an obvious example) then there's no game design rationalisation that could justify including real world advertising without some sort of back lash from the players.
I'm hoping this is part of FD's standardised EULA that it uses as the base legal document for all its internet connectable games and doesn't apply in any way directly to ED other than maybe the launcher. I'm sure either DB or MB has already said that there will not be real life adverts and only adverts for in game companies and institutions so I'm not too worried about the sections implications over and above a simple legalised 'cover our backsides' exercise.
If real life dynamic advertising does turn up I'm hoping that FD has the good grace to allow us to turn it off or one of the boffins on the forum comes up with a filtering add on that will block them.
I can understand it's use in a sports games such as the NFL, FIFA or Formula 1 series but unless a game is set in the real world here and now (Call of Duty is an obvious example) then there's no game design rationalisation that could justify including real world advertising without some sort of back lash from the players.
I'm hoping this is part of FD's standardised EULA that it uses as the base legal document for all its internet connectable games and doesn't apply in any way directly to ED other than maybe the launcher. I'm sure either DB or MB has already said that there will not be real life adverts and only adverts for in game companies and institutions so I'm not too worried about the sections implications over and above a simple legalised 'cover our backsides' exercise.
If real life dynamic advertising does turn up I'm hoping that FD has the good grace to allow us to turn it off or one of the boffins on the forum comes up with a filtering add on that will block them.
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I guess Kickstarter was not the glorious revolution I was expecting <sigh>
If the worst comes to the worst then I'll get a custom paint job for my Anaconda. I'll paint words on my ship and park it beside the Wonga billboard:-
"TRY YOUR
BANK FIRST"
That would be amusing real life advertising:
<scan> Ship is carrying medical supplies
<pew, pew, pew>
<ship viewscreen is flooded with real life brand name high-res sanitary pads>
I can see it working, after all, advertisers and marketeers are going to be present in the future no doubt.
I imagine it is going to appear as something like the Coca-cola advert from Bladerunner for example:
http://boingboing.net/images/tumblr_llg4odOzdu1qe0eclo1_r15_500.gif
I imagine it is going to appear as something like the Coca-cola advert from Bladerunner for example:
http://boingboing.net/images/tumblr_llg4odOzdu1qe0eclo1_r15_500.gif
maybe there can be more subtle advertising.
so you go to pick up medical supplies from a pharmacy and it plays the "bodyform" tune distantly in the background
or
at a shipyard their is a sign in the background saying.... "zoom zoom" on it
so you go to pick up medical supplies from a pharmacy and it plays the "bodyform" tune distantly in the background
or
at a shipyard their is a sign in the background saying.... "zoom zoom" on it
Having in-game advertisements for in-game companies, services or products would be quite interesting and I would have no problem with that. But they wouldn't need to go through all the hassle of contacting an external company to do this stuff, and include all the extra "legalese" in the EULA if they weren't going to be advertising real world products, would they?
The only logical conclusion is that either in game, or in the launcher, there will be advertising for services. Or they are simply covering themselves for future developments and this is all placeholder until such time.
The only logical conclusion is that either in game, or in the launcher, there will be advertising for services. Or they are simply covering themselves for future developments and this is all placeholder until such time.
Or a legal department completely detached from the games design and development came up with it
First anyone outside of alpha's heard about this?
Personally, I think it stinks.
I do not want any advertiser to have any details about me whatsoever thank you very much (or eat into my bandwidth or data allowance), and do my level best to ensure they get as little data from me as possible.
Come on FD - what kind of crappy ad spam are we now to expect in the game?
Personally, I think it stinks.
Seems to be rather all-encompassing.
I do not want any advertiser to have any details about me whatsoever thank you very much (or eat into my bandwidth or data allowance), and do my level best to ensure they get as little data from me as possible.
Come on FD - what kind of crappy ad spam are we now to expect in the game?