What went wrong with Elite Dangerous

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A lot of what is in there sums up the issues I've found with the game. Big galaxy, little to do, and what there is to do is on rails without much direct control by the players. I like stopping in from time to time to see if there's been a course change by Frontier since the game's concept is one I really enjoy, but it doesn't seem like they're really moving in the right direction.
 
Now we're linking to other forums complaining Elite isn't like EVE?
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As expected, a lot of it is eve players whining that it's broken coz it's not eve and isn't trying to be. No argument that the game has issues and needs "more game" in it, but not being "eve with cockpits" isn't one of them.

***sigh***

I knew this would be the response here. If you had read the thread, theres bunch of people who have never played EVE or played it just once because they don't like the gameplay of it, but still didn't like Elite either.
 
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The points on the thread are valid, yes. But is Elite broken beyond all hope? no, not at all, frankly it seems like a lot of players of late, of not just Elite, but many many games.
Either a game is great, or is sucks and is doomed.
Two states.
Personally I am well aware of Elite's flaws, but I believe they are going to be fixed, and add to the fact that I find myself returning to Elite as my go to game, all the time, when there aren't other games on the list, because those games usually are just a story and that's it, and you know what? I think it is perfectly fine to play more games, leave Elite behind for a little while then return, that doesn't mean Elite is unplayable, a persons interests changes over time, and the fact that Elite is the game I find myself always falling back to, tells me that for all its flaws, Elite is doing great.

But yeah then there's some threads, that bemoan some flaws, and yes, they are there, but there is also plenty that IS working, it isn't like you can't play the game and have fun....

Maybe just maybe, people need to realize that it isn't just good or bad, not just a two points, of great or bad, but a scale, and it is perfectly fine for a game not to be at the top, it can have issues and still be great.
Add that a lot of people forget what the games they refer to, Eve online for example but also many other mmo's, where like in the early years, and I can only chuckle, for all those supposed perfect games, why aren't people there playing them?
 
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The thing I really wanted to do in space most of all with the whole galaxy to do whatever I wanted in was run a shop and work spreadsheets and sell trinkets.

Or I could go get involved in the community......... nah. Let's just complain and kill them.
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Lots of the rest is just impatience. None of the other games mentioned have anything even remotely comparable to the scale offered in Elite - and if that's not what you wanted then an awful lot of the rest is coming soon. Do you imagine whining makes it come faster or does it just put the devs off even reading the suggestions made here?
 
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Well the point about the power remaining 100% outside the hands of players is dead on. I have no idea what eve is like and i have zero plans on retraining my flying abilities under a different set of parameters. If this game tanks, so will my flying days, but its utterly amazing how stubborn this dev crew and vision is re this main point re allowing players to truly feel part of the game.

When i watched that youtube about how Mr Braben and partner with vision and driving tenacity gave the world the 1st 3D video it dawned on me that this whole thing abouyt ED being as it is re player emmersion and influence (IN GAME that is) is not about apathy or lack of dev staff etc. In many games you simply can see whats to come or not come by "follow the money", here its not follow the money for they are choosing to leave a LOT of money on the table by a philosophy that instead will have you..."follow the power"

For some reason they are scared to death about what may happen if they players shape the interior of the game. Can you imagine how much money they would rake in if you could coordinate with others to build and maintain somehow your own station ---and on and on. They dont even want your money for a FAS paintjob...theyd rather maintain the power to make you wait.

Follow the power
 
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I could go get involved in the community......... nah. Let's just and kill them.
This too, is important, you see threads complaining about lack of people in open, because people want victims, not once do they think that maybe they themselves could be (depending naturally on who it is) part of the reason they don't find many victims in open, the good old, interdict and blow people up, isn't exactly something that motivates people to go join open, if they are at the whim of some random person that is in the mood to just blow people up to see pixels belonging to other players explode.
 
I knew this would be the response here. If you had read the thread, theres bunch of people who have never played EVE or played it just once because they don't like the gameplay of it, but still didn't like Elite either.

I did read it. That's why I said "a lot" and not "all", because a lot of it IS eve players whining that it's not eve. And what sort of response do you expect when a thread is started by a player known for whining that ed isn't eve and demanding eve-esque features be added "or the game.will be doomed", and who titles provocativley "what went wrong with ed", and simply links to an "it's not eve" rant on reddit? At what point do eve players accept that it's a different game and is gonna remain that way? Not coz I say so, not coz the majority of players want it that way, but because fdev want it that way and have always said it was gonna be that way.

Elite aint Eve, and that's just fine.
 
Elite aint Eve, and that's just fine.

I never wanted Elite to be EVE, that's why I'm playing Elite in the first place. To get away from the "click in space" mechanics of EVE.

You have been missing the point though: People want more content. They want to find an abandoned pirate station in middle of space. They want to see stations built in asteroids. They want -variety- (Stuff like Freelancer had, man I love that game! :D )

I know it's not gonna be added just in a week. I've made few games of my own and I'm making another project right now, and it's taking LOTS of time.

It seems most of the people in that thread are feeling "deceived." They expected more than the game had to offer.

The first impressions didn't come out in the right way, and people are biased because of that. I'm not blaming anyone for that.

And the "what went wrong with X?" is a common title in that subreddit, but I understand if you didn't know this. Yes, very sensationalist, I don't really like that subreddit personally because of that.
 
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A lot of people are getting fed up with whining posts.
And this is a whining post linking to a whining post.
I had a great days gaming in Elite today,got in a few Robigo runs so i could afford to kit out an explorer anaconda and now plan on searching for the rift out in the black until the update hits.
Turns out this game isn't as broken as some people say. If development stopped today i'd still keep playing.
 
I think a lot of the criticisms raised are valid in the same way that I also think the response ''Then Elite isn't for you right now. Come back in a year or to.'' is perhaps the only valid response to these types of threads.

Yes the game needs work, yes there will be more to do in the future. However these sort of threads, while I'm sure FD appreciate the feedback, is not going to sway their timeline of content releases too heavily. Which works for me. I don't want Elite to be something that spews all its content out and then struggles for ideas. I love that I can play it for a month or so, then leave it for up to half a year at a time, then come back knowing there will be *something* new.

So in short... yeah... if Elite doesn't have something for you right now, come back later. Or don't, that is also okay.
 
ED do have problems, however not being EVE is not on of them, I want to see 2.1 before I start complaining about missing content and lifeless universe. We know FD are aware of it and are working on it.
 
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