Rinzler o7o7o7
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Without the context or explanation of the specific audience of the last section, it is.
What went wrong with Elite Dangerous
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Without the context or explanation of the specific audience of the last section, it is.
Maybe, but I feel kinda left out.
I am not even close to being 40+ and am 'pro pvp'. I am a 'fanboy' though, I hope thats enough to be part of the group that is 'ruining this game'. - - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -
Actually, the post was just discriminatory, generalizing and insulting. Now I am no expert, but I doubt thats how you convince people that your opinion has any merit on its own. Could be just me though.
I try and use a bit of imagination - perhaps authority vessels patrol in a different way ("Imperial cops always travel in wings of 3 - what's that one doing on his own?", dictatorship authority vessels intercept and escort arriving traders to starports so they can't nose around, or Federal military patrols in a system with a military are more aggressive and try and interdict any ship approaching that planet, or different factions would use different pools of NPC names so you'd recognise a ship employed by a local Federal corporation by only having a registration code (like Fed stations), whereas Imp navy ships might have flowery names. Independent traders would use the existing Kickstarter-supplied database. Arriving at a Theocracy? Expect to be met by acolytes in Adders expounding their beliefs.
More 'expressive' ship behaviour would require a more elaborate non-combat NPC AI, and we don't know anything about who works on that at FD and whether it's a priority.
I agree that's what they are probably doing. I hope that 2.1 won't be talked up into a God Patch.
Unfortunately for you David Braben, Michael Brookes, and Sandro Samarco are also "40+ year old original elite fanbois", and they create and own the game. Oh and this thread has NOTHING to do with PvP so please stop trying to derail it. It's about discussing the merits of eve style guild gameplay within ED.
Oh. I thought the thread was discussing limited overall content.
You're just the worst kind of people!Maybe, but I feel kinda left out.
I'm pro PvP too, but how it's been done by Cmdr _Fissure who has it spot on. A PvP encounter should be fun for both parties or someone did it wrong
I was going to link to the video comparing tea and er... adult consent, but it swears a lot so will have to be an exercise for the reader. Not that there isn't a place for the occasional horror attack because you've just not learnt to defend yourself at all, but there's a difference between 'at all' and 'obscenely unfair' - want to teach them a lesson then let them limp home without a canopy, that's plenty.
Well yeah that's a subset of it, sure... the original premise was "Look at this list of other people who want guilds. See I told you I was right about guilds. Give me guilds now!" however. The PvP vs PvE thread/s are way over there ---->
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Yup, agreed... which is why I'll be heading back open-wards if/when they ever fix the crime/consequence features, coz that's the only thing that has the slightest chance (in my opinion) of promoting fairer PvP.
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Your nice little reddit again
You just don´t get why people rather choose not to play with you guys, do you?
Your nice little reddit again
You just don´t get why people rather choose not to play with you guys, do you?
Sure people want to play with them! They just need to be forced to Open. And then there need to be some tools that allows them to force these people into having fun.
Sure people want to play with them! They just need to be forced to Open. And then there need to be some tools that allows them to force these people into having fun.
... and tea.
Rinzler o7o7o7
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I'm 100% on the C!
Conspiracy! :O
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Your nice little reddit again
You just don´t get why people rather choose not to play with you guys, do you?
Solo mode exists for a reason. No use playing open just to combat log.
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Guild/corp/alliance gameplay would involve PvP
I am no fan, excuser or advocate of combat logging, but you stating on one hand that 'space pixels not important, grow up whiners' and then attaching so much importance to vanishing space pixels is hilarious.
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Seriously off topic now.
Get back on topic please.
Get back on topic please.
There are a lot of valid points in the reddit and on this thread. But I think, the best sentence that is summarizing the most ED is :
"No one should be surprised by the game ED turned into: It is a modern updated version of Elite, warts and all."
That is so true for those who have played previous games.
We will see what 2.1 will bring on the table.
"No one should be surprised by the game ED turned into: It is a modern updated version of Elite, warts and all."
That is so true for those who have played previous games.
We will see what 2.1 will bring on the table.
How utterly wrong you are...
It's all the 40+ year old people who have been in the industry for decades that are designing your PvP game's. It is the attitude of the little gankers that ruin's PvP games. This happens when they listen to much to one side of the PvP crowd instead of sticking to the game they have been funded to make.
Look at the way you close your post. Do you think that kind of immature attitude would serve you well or be respected in a professional business environment? Of course not.
Welcome to reality.
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A very flat view on the game imo. Solo exists for the reasons of Solo, there is no "law" how to do it right.
Don't know how it works, however if the NPC are impacting the numbers of players you can have in an instance, they will need to find a way to work around this issue. Don't know how to solve this, however I'm not a game developer either.
They need to allocate graphical designers to do the work, they do not hang on trees, nor can you go to the local supermarked and get some. PG can only do so much, you need to level design the stations, ships, settlements and so on, time consuming thus cost money to do. ED is probably a slow moving train, however when it get up to speed it will be difficult to stop
(dreaming is allowed).Ironic post is ironic
I can't rep you again this soon, but consider this a virtual +1.
In Rinzler's defense though, he's a hammer and sees everything as a nail. The PvP aspect exists and he cares about it. He probably erroneously thinks open mode was designed specifically for PvP. That's clearly not the case when you look at how ED was advertised and how open mode works. ED was advertised as a game where you can play alongside other players. Coop (PwP) was the design, not PvP.
This must be frustrating to someone who only wants PvP. The instancing, multiple modes and huge galaxy conspire to defeat sociopaths. Add the 15 second "legal" combat logging along with the actual combat logging and it must be maddening.
I won't cry a tear if and when these sociopaths move on to other games. I'm hoping the other games develop fast enough to satisfy their craving for whatever it is that they need. I can't understand their point of view and you probably can't either. We can, however, understand that they have a need that is beyond our ability to grasp.
I count myself fortunate that I don't get it. You should too. We're the norm in society. Let's embrace that and let them run off to whatever makes them happy.
Consequences ( attacking others) & Communication ( trying to find others) the bane of ED , never really happened did it.
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