My open letter to Fdev

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Right, then if one "not real thing" would get removed due to the other "not real thing", we could say nothing really happened ?
I kinda like that thought.:D

Sort of like a tree falling in the woods? That the sort of thing you mean?

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"I am a ranking member of the Empire's 13th Legion."

Pilate: Vewy well! I shall welease Woger!

Guard: *chuckles in the background*

What about woderwick?
 
Hello all,

The way I see the Segovan situation:

- Superpower sets up goal to get materials for critical expansion.
- Player faction takes exception, blockades system, and flips the system.
- Superpower stabilises system by jumping in capital ships etc to ensure that their materials get through, this happens rapidly after a period of disruption...

Isn't this how you would expect it to play out though?
It doesn't seem lore breaking to me... yes, it's rapidly negated a lot of effort - which hurts, but it's not an unrealistic situation within ED, surely?

Isn't this pretty much how it plays out in real life?

- Perhaps at this point an opposing cg should have been started for insurgency? Where alongside tier rewards come federations "most wanted" status?

Lots of love

Darb
 
You can hamper other people's PvE efforts.
Hardly a level playing field when you are effectively playing while completely immune to an effective response to your actions, is it?

The only way to prove it my furry butt.
Didn't say it was the only way to prove the point, but one that these players obviously felt so aggrieved at not seeing any kind of action that they felt compelled to undertake. But I'd love to hear your effective alternative method for obtaining to positive response bud?

I'd offer to shave your hirsute tushy free of charge if you could find one......;)
 
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Hardly a level playing field when you are effectively playing while completely immune to an effective response to your actions, is it?
Because you cannot do the same? Those players have more options to their disposal?

Didn't say it was the only way to prove the point
I laugh at the excuse this was done to prove a point.

But I'd love to hear your effective alternative method for obtaining to positive response bud?
2 things.

1. My point is that going into Mobius proved no point and was not effective. For this I do not have to provide a method that is. If you disagree, I'd like to hear which positives came out of it.
2. A more effective method would be to raise awareness on the forum without the mode infiltration antics, because that way you get the support from the player base behind you. I have noticed a lot of sentiments that were positive towards the 13th something because FD negated their efforts. But then many players also expressed that the actions from the 13th something didn't leave them with much sympathy. Me included.

Pal. :)

I even can imagine the action being born out of frustration, but that would mean a change of heart when the initial heating of the heads cooled off. And so far, there hasn't been a single syllable of regret posted in this thread, so I cannot even sympathize with that.
I'd offer to shave your hirsute tushy free of charge if you could find one......;)
I like my furry butt. Keeps me comfortable during long exploration trips.
 
When SDC did this we took out their home system in mobius and solo, is there an equivelent thread for organising the same response to this lot ?.


Anyone can organize and go do it. Feel free! Most of those that went after SDC had a blast, from private, taking away SDC's controlling stations.

Regardless of what people will say, this is actually a proper response to these actions. Diminishing someone's place in the galaxy through PVE trophy movement. Hopefully, they have an anti-pve bent in their group that will allow this to be done fairly easily! If not...a true and proper E: D war will break out and everyone will have a bunch of fun the way it is meant to be had by the devs!

Good luck!
 
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it's all in Elite:Dangerous "about the game" which everyone can read on the store page Lures in new players with the immpression that they will get to play with other players(co-operating together towards a goal, co-operating to stop a player/group of players in achieving their goal you name it) and then people like you roybe or Ziggy come in and demand that players play only against NPCs since you don't like.

Another direct Quote from Braben:
“There are missions out there I know almost no players have seen,” he says. “But we haven’t communicated it properly. There’s so much in there, and what we see from play patterns is that many do the same thing over and over. In that cycle, they just don’t get to see some of the variation. I’m not blaming players. We got it wrong.”

and people like you guys just keep enforcing that same pattern Braben and fdev deem as their mistake.

also Mike. if the "vote with your wallet" would really work, Fdev would have to allow people to get a refund at any given time and you would see how fast we would get new content stalled just to modify the current enviroment that we have now.

Also to all those people that claim that they are in "mobius" "13th legion" or whatever player-group "with a minor faction in-game" Ask Fdev to implement proper CMDR Guilds(fleets) and introduce system permits to the system that a guild is in charge of(also introduce travel/trading/security/bounty hunting permits to non-guild players) and There and only there you can enforce a choosen set of rules given by fdev.

Reduce the insurance costs all across the board, increase the bounty given to a player for attacking other players/npcs outside of anarchy/lawless systems and make that person jump into instances with players that a higher and higher combat rank and things like that.

Everything can change for the better(and worse of course, but that too is a part of the ride) but some people need to understand that all of us, the people that want to be pirates, the traders, the solo players, the bounty hunters, you name them. Are part of the community that plays and drives Elite:Dangerous
 
I've had a look and you seem to be failed minor faction with no in game assets and dwindling membership, now part of the larger group prismatic imperium. Trying to claim founders world or in-game influence is laughable.

Anyway I didn't realize just how insignificant a group the 13th was, which explains the attention seeking attack on mobius. If you ever manage to establish yourselves in the game we'll erase you via the BGS within a week, provided we remember your group exists obviously.

I don't think you get it... we DON'T want a minor faction. Why on earth would we want something people could attack in solo/private? And why would the Imperial military have a minor faction anyway.
 
Because you cannot do the same? Those players have more options to their disposal?

In this case, yes. They have a CG, the opposition does not. If you play the CG in Solo, it will succeed and noone can stop it. Thats not the fault of Solo players, thats FD's fault. For anything Federation/Empire related there should always be an opposing CG. In this case there wasn't, and FD just gave one side a freebie as long as they were willing to take it. In that sense I can understand the frustration.
 
and then people like you roybe or Ziggy come in and demand that players play only against NPCs since you don't like.
Horsepuppies.

Quote me where I state this.
In this case, yes. They have a CG, the opposition does not. If you play the CG in Solo, it will succeed and noone can stop it. Thats not the fault of Solo players, thats FD's fault. For anything Federation/Empire related there should always be an opposing CG. In this case there wasn't, and FD just gave one side a freebie as long as they were willing to take it. In that sense I can understand the frustration.
True, in this case, that is a serious mistake.
 
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They are already banning them. :) Not sure yet if its temp or permanent (temp seems fine for now, just to make it clear this crap is not allowed any more), but they are taking action.

No one has been banned for the millionth time. We were only kicked from Mobius private server.
 
Horsepuppies.

Quote me where I state this.

True, in this case, that is a serious mistake.

you going againt people wanting more player to player interaction is enough to prove that

@nightshady it's "Private [PvE, offline with friends] Group" in the same server cluster that has people playing in open who want to have player versus player interaction(and aggression towards the other player is not the only interaction. That's for the people calling everyone who wants more pvp a "griefer")
 
You don't get any sympathy for invading Mobius. That's a no-go and you should know better.

The BGS situation could have been handled more elegantly though. A clever way to deal with it would have been to treat it as an Imperial invasion of a system under Federal protection, which it was. Spawn an imperial faction as the invader and start a war with the controlling Federal faction. The war state would override the lockdown state, allowing the CG to continue in a way that is consistent with how the in-universe factions would behave.
 
I don't think you get it... we DON'T want a minor faction. Why on earth would we want something people could attack in solo/private? And why would the Imperial military have a minor faction anyway.

Thats exactly what SDC said repeatedly and with gallons of salty goodness whilst we flipped their system. Do you have any allies we could trash I think someone sugested cubeo, we wouldnt want to attack innocent third parties that's more your thing.
 
you going againt people wanting more player to player interaction is enough to prove that
Explaining how the game mechanics have been created by FD is not "going against" people.

Lets face facts. Even if they did remove the solo/group modes (which will never happen), the P2P instancing the game has been built on would effectively prevent blockading. There would always be players in another instance working against you that you could do nothing about.
The global/group PvP in this game is about out pacing your opponents with PvE tasks. It's as simple as that.
 
Thats exactly what SDC said repeatedly and with gallons of salty goodness whilst we flipped their system. Do you have any allies we could trash I think someone sugested cubeo, we wouldnt want to attack innocent third parties that's more your thing.


Cubeo seems like a good place to start........ if there is a minor (player) faction in Cubeo and it has a problem then they can go speak to the 13th
 
You know, it might be fun if 13th legion or Athena secretly started trying to obliterate the factions of permit locked systems like Jotun, Sirius, or Alioth in order to "PVP" with the people hiding in Solo/Private.

It'd be a start.

Hint hint, wink wink.

Good luck getting a permit then. :p
 
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