UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

Dommarraa · Jul 25, 2016

Woot. New thread.
Maybe we can stop the 100 pages per day of random "I think it looks like" musings. Unless your thoughts lead to a testable hypothesis, it really has been said at least 10 time already. If it does lead to a testable hypothesis, go and test it.
IMHO to progress this, we need more, higher quality (if possible) recordings. Until we can either see a change in the main "HUD" due to location/other environmental changes, or we can see more detail in some of the currently fuzzy sections (specifically the left Tardis area), the image will lead nowhere.

Hunt UP Convoys
Hunt Wild UP
Go have fun doing stuff

Allant Doran · Jul 25, 2016

SpeedMATS said:
Co-ordinates of the Organic Outcrop are at Merope 5c -26.4637 -156.4498

I was there last night and I found nothing. Nothing at all. That area of Merope 5c was completely empty of anything.
I'll check again but I've been doing this a long time, I'm 99.9% sure I missed nothing.

For the record I don't think you are trolling. I think either the co-ords are wrong or you were just mistaken somehow. It's fine, it happens.

CMDR Sheehy · Jul 25, 2016

Dommarraa said:
Woot. New thread.
Maybe we can stop the 100 pages per day of random "I think it looks like" musings. Unless your thoughts lead to a testable hypothesis, it really has been said at least 10 time already. If it does lead to a testable hypothesis, go and test it.
IMHO to progress this, we need more, higher quality (if possible) recordings. Until we can either see a change in the main "HUD" due to location/other environmental changes, or we can see more detail in some of the currently fuzzy sections (specifically the left Tardis area), the image will lead nowhere.

Hunt UP Convoys
Hunt Wild UP
Go have fun doing stuff

Derthek · Jul 25, 2016

Something something Myrmidon something something subscribed

rizal72 · Jul 25, 2016

Hello CMDRs, back from week end holidays.

I've added some meaningful content on the FP, updated some links here and there.
I'm still waiting to know if there's at least ONE UP out there in the hands of some CMDR.

HAPPY TINFOILING TO EVERYONE.

[VR] Goooost · Jul 25, 2016

Surl Tesh-echer said:
Btw: why are everybody (or a lot of people) convinced that the image has to do with with Merope?

Because if you leave the probe alone it points to merope, specifically 5c, wherever you are.

Surl Tesh-echer · Jul 25, 2016

Goooost said:
Because if you leave the probe alone it points to merope, specifically 5c, wherever you are.

But how you can see it is pointing towards Merope/5c when you are in e.g. Ross 47?

Dark_Helmet · Jul 25, 2016

Surl Tesh-echer said:
But how you can see it is pointing towards Merope/5c when you are in e.g. Ross 47?

Select Merope directly in the galaxy map, without plotting a route, and line them up by eye with the debug camera, it's not difficult.

Allant Doran · Jul 25, 2016

I think the most important next step, and the thing we should focus on in-game, is the proliferation of UPs. We MUST find a more consistent and reliable way of attaining an UP.
New types of Convoys, UPs Adrift, from Planet surfaces.

So many of our ideas, even little silly ones, cannot be tested because we don't have access to the UP.

On a related note: Where can I buy those protected Cargo Bays? Or do they not exist anymore?

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Surl Tesh-echer said:
But how you can see it is pointing towards Merope/5c when you are in e.g. Ross 47?

You narrow it down. In every system that is not Merope it points to the 'Merope' Star. Once IN the system, it points to the 5c planet no matter where you drop it.

ilo · Jul 25, 2016

Popov Le Magnifique said:
I thought I could get away with a shorter sentence but apparently it will be impossible. I think I know what a probe is. Obtain info about the environment...All right. What's the point of making it accessible to humans though? I mean, are the inner workings of Voyager 1 and 2 also engraved on a plaque of some kind so that aliens can understand how they work (the probes)? (I don't know, maybe they did.) What I meant was that maybe the message was similar to the Pioneer plaque or Voyager's Golden Record. Does that make sense?

Popov, sorry if I was a bit rude, I didn't mean to be!! now that your post clarifies that, it is NOT the probe that points to the home system, but maybe the image does. Definitely more clear now!

On a side note, not all probes we sent include a message to locate us.. some others include data that might look like a garbled message for anyone finding/reading them that will point them to a random location if they consider that information as 'a key' hehe

ilo · Jul 25, 2016

Yaffle said:
I took the liberty of copying the last few posts from the old thread in here for a bit of continuity.

Apologies to anyone who was typing away and lost their work when I locked the old thread.

Thanks for that Yaffle, amazing and quick transition. Love it!!

LordZoltan · Jul 25, 2016

Dommarraa said:
Woot. New thread.
Maybe we can stop the 100 pages per day of random "I think it looks like" musings. Unless your thoughts lead to a testable hypothesis, it really has been said at least 10 time already. If it does lead to a testable hypothesis, go and test it.
IMHO to progress this, we need more, higher quality (if possible) recordings. Until we can either see a change in the main "HUD" due to location/other environmental changes, or we can see more detail in some of the currently fuzzy sections (specifically the left Tardis area), the image will lead nowhere.

Hunt UP Convoys
Hunt Wild UP
Go have fun doing stuff

While part of me wants to say 'oh don't spoil the fun' - my head and, indeed, my whole body is nodding furiously in agreement regarding pushing out new theories.

(warning, typing while your whole body is nodding is awkward and heavily reduces typing accuracy)

I still don't think we've actually even completed the recorded observations part of what we should be doing!

For my own part, I keep starting the process of putting together an annotated version of the spectrogram with nowt but observations, but things like work keep getting in the way.

I mean, like, how unfair is that.

Surl Tesh-echer · Jul 25, 2016

Dark_Helmet said:
Select Merope directly in the galaxy map, without plotting a route, and line them up by eye with the debug camera, it's not difficult.

Allant Doran said:
You narrow it down. In every system that is not Merope it points to the 'Merope' Star. Once IN the system, it points to the 5c planet no matter where you drop it.

V'larr · Jul 25, 2016

So...does nobody know, for my post (now on page 2) asking about light-signal morse code communication attempts?

CMDR Ofan · Jul 25, 2016

Just a question about the previous analysis done on the sounds the Barnacles and UA and UP make.

I don't have any experience with sound analysis first of all, and it's likely that minds greater than mine have already noticed and checked this out but it's hard for me to extract information from the sheer volume we have here.

I noticed that when played at certain speeds that the "songs" of all 3 artifacts start to sound very similar, for example the slow moaning of the barnicles when sped up turns into a much more familiar honking.

Is it worth aligning the speed of the sounds the previous two objects (barnicles/UA) make (in the most recent patch to see if they are doing anything new) with the playback speed at which we have extracted information from the UP by aligning the honks/noises in that way to see if anything do make contains any information?

Perhaps the differences in speed are designed to demonstrate something else, like the evolution of barnicle->artifact->probe but I spent ages looking for a UA to try myself but I can't seem to find one of th elittle blighters.

Does that make any sense at all?

slartybartfast · Jul 25, 2016

Dommarraa said:
Woot. New thread.
Maybe we can stop the 100 pages per day of random "I think it looks like" musings. Unless your thoughts lead to a testable hypothesis, it really has been said at least 10 time already. If it does lead to a testable hypothesis, go and test it.
IMHO to progress this, we need more, higher quality (if possible) recordings. Until we can either see a change in the main "HUD" due to location/other environmental changes, or we can see more detail in some of the currently fuzzy sections (specifically the left Tardis area), the image will lead nowhere.

Hunt UP Convoys
Hunt Wild UP
Go have fun doing stuff

Guilty as charged

But i think it will always be like this for this thread, just because we get a lot of new traffic all the time and they will ask questions and muse out loud

Oh and HAPPY NEW THREAD last one was quickest yet i think

Tharrn · Jul 25, 2016

V'larr said:
So...does nobody know, for my post (now on page 2) asking about light-signal morse code communication attempts?

I did try. Not much and not for long though as I doubted it could really work from a game mechanics point of view. It was a "dead" barnacle though with all pillars destroyed - which is the sad state about all unguarded barnacles seem to be in now. As people are greedy and don't bother to scan and only harvest "ripe" pillars having meta-alloys we'll soon have no growing barnacles at all. If I should find additional barnacles (have been 100& unsuccessfull so far

) I'll thus not share the coordinates.

Kaltern · Jul 25, 2016

Tharrn said:
I did try. Not much and not for long though as I doubted it could really work from a game mechanics point of view. It was a "dead" barnacle though with all pillars destroyed - which is the sad state about all unguarded barnacles seem to be in now. As people are greedy and don't bother to scan and only harvest "ripe" pillars having meta-alloys we'll soon have no growing barnacles at all. If I should find additional barnacles (have been 100& unsuccessfull so far ) I'll thus not share the coordinates.

Don't forget the Feds have been systematically destroying all barnacles they come across. So it isn't just greedy players. Probably.

GeneralGhostt · Jul 25, 2016

good moring cmdr's another day has dawn for me

well back to searching ill tell u guys when i find the tyranids wait wrong lore i mean zerg damit ill keep it with the reapers then

RyuuzakiMasato7 · Jul 25, 2016

Hi folks, I've been following this thread since the whole UP replying thing blew up (or trying to keep up anyway, fast moving thread), just lurking until now - I've got a mind to try and help in acquiring a UP. I don't really have the knowhow to test it myself so if I do manage to get a hold of one, I'll donate it to someone more suited to testing it.

On that note, I see on the front page a list of the systems they've been found in, the convoy USS to look for etc, and just have a few more questions:

First: is it a case that these USS are extremely rare and always have a python carrying a UP, or are they more frequent and we have to cargo scan any pythons and pray?
Second: what are the escorts generally comprised of? Things like usual number of ships, common ships, etc.
Finally: based on that last question, is it recommended to recruit help in fighting these convoys, or do these other unknown ships usually do all the work?

Thanks in advance, and if I've blatently missed an answer to these, my apologies in advance!