Should start thinking of coming up with some ideas yourself, because as it stands most people are out of ideas or too tired to come up with new ones.
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Should start thinking of coming up with some ideas yourself, because as it stands most people are out of ideas or too tired to come up with new ones.
I heard this from DJtruthsayer on twitch. someone in his group had "run the audio through a different audio analyser" and came up with this Morse code embedded in the signal.
Still digging, waiting for him to confirm.
well im more like busy getting some solid leads for my own theory and so far weird follows the weird
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+ there is still the idea to route the capital ships
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Sounds an awful lot like he's misinterpreting something but we'll see.
Not dying, just slowing. This is normal, and why it's gone on for 8 threads now.
and if nothing comes up for a few weaks maybe we get a hint
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Agreed but I think its worth looking into even if its likely to disappoint.
Okay, another find. Sorry if it has already been analyzed, discovered and eliminated. This was the voice i manage to clear up in the last part of the message. Not sure if it has been found before. but it kind of sounds like, "you will find elite of these" or something along those lines. I'm not good with manipulating audio and this was the clearest I could get this.
https://soundcloud.com/timothy-rawlings/up-voice-hidden-message
https://soundcloud.com/timothy-rawlings/up-voice-hidden-message
I definately hear "you will find elite" in there
Or, good idea's are getting overrun with tinfoil, or laughed away..
It's nothing but static, of which it is possible to make some sense if you imagine really, really hard.
A bit like this thread, the last 100 pages of which has been static, of which no-one has made much sense and any sense is lost in the static.
It would be nice if people actually tested out their theories and then posted afterwards "I thought it was this... but it turned out to be nothing" instead of 100's of "It's a wild banana chasing a pogo stick!!!" That way when someone really finds out what the key is, it won't get lost among the pogo-stick-honking crowd posts...
Not static, this is something different. at first you can barely make it out, some adjusting of audio, timing and what and i got a distinct voice and you can clearly hear "elite" and "these" in their, or something close to those words.
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true too
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also im starting to give up on the whole thing maybe we shoud just bake a gigantic cake and bring dat to merope 5 c and the aliens woud come out
I've kinda said this a couple times now, but this is why there's basically one thing we need to do right now: Look for those UP free-floaters. Then people can run around doing whatever tests they like.
I've been sick so I haven't been able to put as much effort in as I wanted, so that search thread isn't knocked up yet.
When there's only two or three UPs, that's two or three people who are basically at the behest of these forums to perform all manner of tests. I remember the same thing happening with UAs, and people claiming having one was a curse rather than a blessing. Even Riz has been given a run for his money so to speak with updating the main forum post... as cool as this stuff is people still have lives to get back to.
warning all links contain tons of noise
heres the voice part
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dcb1r6tw7idicav/mayday i have been hit.wav?dl=0
"mayday i have been hit" alarms wawe scanner bleep "i have" engine spools down or probe shutting down
https://www.dropbox.com/s/62pwvftkp9yep39/alarms.wav?dl=0 (the track is slowed down)
there also might be 3rd voice but i cant get it to intelligible form so it might be noise.
heres the voice part
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dcb1r6tw7idicav/mayday i have been hit.wav?dl=0
"mayday i have been hit" alarms wawe scanner bleep "i have" engine spools down or probe shutting down
https://www.dropbox.com/s/62pwvftkp9yep39/alarms.wav?dl=0 (the track is slowed down)
there also might be 3rd voice but i cant get it to intelligible form so it might be noise.
Any scientific theory should lead to the definition of experimental tests to validate it, and it should allow new predictions which can then be tested, AND it should account for ALL the current evidence. I don't think we have anything that can be called a theory as yet, but we have a few hypotheses to guide us.
It could be:
1) a probe like Voyager/Pioneer & the sonogram is a map to it's originators' galactic location, but the contra-indicator is why do UPs then point stubbornly to Merope 5C wherever you find one? Doesn't make sense, I originally liked it but now think it's incorrect on this basis
2) a distress beacon launched by a camouflaged alien ship/outpost hidden on 5C with location of how to locate it, but we haven't decoded the map yet. The UA would have to be a longer-range distress beacon saying "I'm in Merope system. Contra-indicator - doesn't answer why UAs use Morse, and why UPs (clearly related to UAs) do not. Message may be intended for us, may not be.
3) similar to hypothesis 2, but the UA and UP are search devices from a third party, possibly benign to us 'cos they use Morse code in the UA ship scans, warning us of cloaked dangerous ship/outpost (from lore therefore probably Thargoid)
4) a device engineered by Feds/Sirius Corp to do similar job to hypothesis 3 after finding UA shell. Might indicate why UPs only found to date near Sirius , why Feds turned up in force to Merope.
5) If UAs were also engineered by Feds then would explain Morse ("Fed blink") code, but not how the Feds knew there was something to look for in the first place, although UAs were originally found scattered around (can anyone remember their locations?) before forming the shell.
so might be a mix or none of these hypotheses. But we should be looking at ALL the evidence, including ALL the sonogram glyphs. Things are being ignored, which is faulty thinking and poor science.
That too. Well I got only one thing I can think of. I know people have been doing it, but I'm gonna start looking for free floaters in Sirius.
TINFOILED HYPOTHESIS
Doesn't explain anything, but tries to disprove some things.
I'm traveling back in time (back to newsletter 103), let me grab this part of the history from here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/210108-The-Missing-Thread
Originally Posted by Michael Brookes
Putting on my story hat for a moment the sharp eyed amongst you have noticed a story in GalNet about ‘The Missing’. In brief The Missing is an encompassing term for everyone who has disappeared without trace in deep space. This includes colonists on the ancient generation ships, lost colonies, disappeared scientific expeditions and a host of others. Some will know from our timeline that many thousands of ‘generation ships’ left the safety of Earth beginning in the 24th century onwards, and headed out into what was then largely unknown – with just some data from probes to guide them. The process was completely unregulated, and many were not as well prepared as they should have been. In those days when faster-than-light communication didn’t exist, many of these potential settlers faced terrible risks alone, travelling thousands of light years into the black, not unlike the wagon trains that set out across continental US in the 18th and 19th centuries before them. Not all were successful at founding new worlds. Most were not. Some managed to return with tails of their adventures. Some were lost in deep space, the dead hulk of their ship carrying on an almost endless trajectory ever deeper into space. Others managed to land and survived for many decades before being overtaken by some local disaster. Some may still be alive, just restricted to low power light speed communications, or no comms at all, as their equipment has failed over the centuries in between. We say they have disappeared without trace, but just maybe some will find some traces of them that are still out there…
The plight of The Missing is just one of the things that will become more prominent over the coming year and the Commanders of the Pilots Federation will be pivotal in solving these mysteries. You can expect more news on this soon.
We have seen some unknown structures floating around as described in here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/264118-23810-Prototype-wrecks-WIP
We will probably find them in the ground as well, as I pointed before:
IF - these UP - are the unknown probes, and these probes happen to be the ones the missing were using, it will explain why they are not alien lost probes and why they don't contain alien encrypted data but something we can understand.
Doesn't explain anything, but tries to disprove some things.
I'm traveling back in time (back to newsletter 103), let me grab this part of the history from here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/210108-The-Missing-Thread
Originally Posted by Michael Brookes
Putting on my story hat for a moment the sharp eyed amongst you have noticed a story in GalNet about ‘The Missing’. In brief The Missing is an encompassing term for everyone who has disappeared without trace in deep space. This includes colonists on the ancient generation ships, lost colonies, disappeared scientific expeditions and a host of others. Some will know from our timeline that many thousands of ‘generation ships’ left the safety of Earth beginning in the 24th century onwards, and headed out into what was then largely unknown – with just some data from probes to guide them. The process was completely unregulated, and many were not as well prepared as they should have been. In those days when faster-than-light communication didn’t exist, many of these potential settlers faced terrible risks alone, travelling thousands of light years into the black, not unlike the wagon trains that set out across continental US in the 18th and 19th centuries before them. Not all were successful at founding new worlds. Most were not. Some managed to return with tails of their adventures. Some were lost in deep space, the dead hulk of their ship carrying on an almost endless trajectory ever deeper into space. Others managed to land and survived for many decades before being overtaken by some local disaster. Some may still be alive, just restricted to low power light speed communications, or no comms at all, as their equipment has failed over the centuries in between. We say they have disappeared without trace, but just maybe some will find some traces of them that are still out there…
The plight of The Missing is just one of the things that will become more prominent over the coming year and the Commanders of the Pilots Federation will be pivotal in solving these mysteries. You can expect more news on this soon.
We have seen some unknown structures floating around as described in here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/264118-23810-Prototype-wrecks-WIP
We will probably find them in the ground as well, as I pointed before:
IF - these UP - are the unknown probes, and these probes happen to be the ones the missing were using, it will explain why they are not alien lost probes and why they don't contain alien encrypted data but something we can understand.
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Another Theory Tested and Disproved
I'd like to share the theory I had, what I did to try to prove it, and the lack of results I found so that other people don't have to do the same thing to try to prove or disprove it.
I subscribe to the theory that line-dot symbols are numbers in binary. If that is the case, the lower right is a one, the upper left is a two, the upper right is a three, and the lower right is a four.
I interpreted the numbers as steps to be executed.
I also subscribe to the theory that that the lines of the image match the lines of a planet if you turn the planet sideways. Also, the lines in the center which the diagonal point to have a greater line width then the other lines, so I'm going with the idea that they are the equator and the prime meridian (that is, that the vertical line in the center matches the equator, and the horizontal line matches the prime meridian). So, I interpreted step 1 to be go to the equator at the prime meridian, (that is lattitude 0, longitude 0.)
The second step I interpreted to be descend from orbital cruise.
For the third step I had two ideas: one was that it meant to use the scanner on the SRV, the other was it meant to use a discovery scanner. Since traversing 30 degrees in an SRV would take a very long time though, I figured the only reasonable thing that Step 3 could mean for that long a distance was fire the discovery scanner (in my case, I used and Advanced Discovery Scanner), so I started firing the advanced discovery scanner repeatedly.
For step four, the two lines in the lower left seem to point to latitude lines. The rotation of the image could be to the clockwise or counter clockwise, so I don't know for sure whether that is 30 degrees and 60 degrees, or negative 30 degrees and negative 60 degrees.
I started with 60 degrees latitude, 0 degrees longitude, and flew down to 30 degrees latitude, 0 degrees longitude, repeatedly firing the ADS looking for anything interesting on the ground both on my scanners and with the naked eye. Anytime I came across a "blue circle" area on my radar, I descended and got out in the SRV to check it out.
I found nothing.
I realize that the image of Merope 5C could be rotated clockwise instead of counter clockwise, in which case the lines in step four might point to negative 30 degrees and 60 degrees, but after a couple of hours on this, I wanted to do something else, so I leave that to the reader as an experiment if they wish to do so.
I'd like to share the theory I had, what I did to try to prove it, and the lack of results I found so that other people don't have to do the same thing to try to prove or disprove it.
I subscribe to the theory that line-dot symbols are numbers in binary. If that is the case, the lower right is a one, the upper left is a two, the upper right is a three, and the lower right is a four.
I interpreted the numbers as steps to be executed.
I also subscribe to the theory that that the lines of the image match the lines of a planet if you turn the planet sideways. Also, the lines in the center which the diagonal point to have a greater line width then the other lines, so I'm going with the idea that they are the equator and the prime meridian (that is, that the vertical line in the center matches the equator, and the horizontal line matches the prime meridian). So, I interpreted step 1 to be go to the equator at the prime meridian, (that is lattitude 0, longitude 0.)
The second step I interpreted to be descend from orbital cruise.
For the third step I had two ideas: one was that it meant to use the scanner on the SRV, the other was it meant to use a discovery scanner. Since traversing 30 degrees in an SRV would take a very long time though, I figured the only reasonable thing that Step 3 could mean for that long a distance was fire the discovery scanner (in my case, I used and Advanced Discovery Scanner), so I started firing the advanced discovery scanner repeatedly.
For step four, the two lines in the lower left seem to point to latitude lines. The rotation of the image could be to the clockwise or counter clockwise, so I don't know for sure whether that is 30 degrees and 60 degrees, or negative 30 degrees and negative 60 degrees.
I started with 60 degrees latitude, 0 degrees longitude, and flew down to 30 degrees latitude, 0 degrees longitude, repeatedly firing the ADS looking for anything interesting on the ground both on my scanners and with the naked eye. Anytime I came across a "blue circle" area on my radar, I descended and got out in the SRV to check it out.
I found nothing.
I realize that the image of Merope 5C could be rotated clockwise instead of counter clockwise, in which case the lines in step four might point to negative 30 degrees and 60 degrees, but after a couple of hours on this, I wanted to do something else, so I leave that to the reader as an experiment if they wish to do so.
Actually I think it says something like "Release the keys"
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