UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[CMDR Moortz]

Lord Zoltan <bows> we must have been typing the same thing at the same time

If I was assigning a team to investigate this, I'd give each person one question and the spectrogram as the possible answer, each person goes off and comes up with a theory (however bizarre), using the spectrogram as the answer, then once all the answers are in (independantly) each person gets another question to work with.

Randomly assigning scanning honking and farting tests to these rare UP's seems a slight waste of resources.

 

[Belthize]

Not enough 'why' questions being asked here.


I'm sure there's more, but you get my point.
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Few more why questions:

• Why are is there a 2nd layer of broad spectrum noise lasting 1/20th to 1/20 of a second at discrete intervals throughout the transmission (green bars), original discussion regarding that image is here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...d-7-The-Canonn/page534?p=4262647#post4262647:
  
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• Why is there a burst of static in the first band with high amplitude in the roughly 2 to 4.6Khz range.
• Why are there delicate vertical and horizontal bars scattered around the image (enhanced via severe compression and fidding with gain settings, these are real audio artifacts not image artifacts).
  
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• Why have we completely failed to find a wild UP (pet theory, you have to make a UA into a UP by prodding it somehow).

 

[GeneralGhostt]

Few more why questions:

• Why have we completely failed to find a wild UP (pet theory, you have to make a UA into a UP by prodding it somehow).

feed it a station and it evolves for shure

 

[CookieJarviz]

My theory is they are Thargoids. Looking for there lost scouting part they lost 150 years way bacn when. hence the UA shell 130-150ly from Merope. They found the location of one of there lost ships and are now trying to find its exact location. Hence when the UPs come in. Probes look for stuff. Now. from what I have gathers. What we are looking at is a flight path. or a flight plan whatever you call it. Everyone aircraft, ship, spaceship will have one. So if something does happen to them. They can follow its path and determine the point of contact loss or if they have nothing to go on follow its flight plan until they find something.

Why Thargoids you ask? Well.

1. There has been some subtle hints. and major ones.

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Now. Here is the fun part. Merope 5C is big. Gigantic for a single man. ED must of hidden the ship somewhere where its hard to see. but obvious if you see it. The map. I dont recognise any of it. I bellive. This time. FD have made something we cant crack. And there really are some amazing people in this community. But I think this time. were not gonna crack this one.

 

[Ratbone]

A lot of you think we are stuck because we need more UPs. Maybe you should look at this thread and contribute. Something similar could be done for organizing convoys attacks.

 

[knowles2]

This what I actually see in the above image,

172C13.23+137i

Pretty meaningless to me.

I think I read in the last thread that one of the angles on the center pictogram was 137, I may be wrong though.

 

[Dommarraa]

Why have we completely failed to find a wild UP (pet theory, you have to make a UA into a UP by prodding it somehow).

Cos they are only in a few out of 4 billion systems, and we have no idea where. We only know there are some, because someone gave MB too many Babycham and got him tipsy.
They might not even be in USS, they could (for example) be in Asteroid Clusters (not rings)

 

[CMDR Moortz]

My theory is they are Thargoids. Looking for there lost scouting part they lost 150 years way bacn when. hence the UA shell 130-150ly from Merope. They found the location of one of there lost ships and are now trying to find its exact location. Hence when the UPs come in. Probes look for stuff. Now. from what I have gathers. What we are looking at is a flight path. or a flight plan whatever you call it. Everyone aircraft, ship, spaceship will have one. So if something does happen to them. They can follow its path and determine the point of contact loss or if they have nothing to go on follow its flight plan until they find something.

Why Thargoids you ask? Well.

1. There has been some subtle hints. and major ones.

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http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/16/jul/newsjuly15_elite2.jpg

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http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/16/jul/newsjuly15_elite3.jpg

Now. Here is the fun part. Merope 5C is big. Gigantic for a single man. ED must of hidden the ship somewhere where its hard to see. but obvious if you see it. The map. I dont recognise any of it.

Interesting theory. Let me apply the unknowns test to this theory.

Unknowns -

Whether the Feds are protecting or harvesting the Barnacles. Not Relevant
Whether the UA's and UP's are specifically linked to Barnacles. No
Whether the UA's, UP's and Barnacles are from the same source. No.
What purpose the Barnacles have on Merope 5c and the other planets. Not Relevant
Whether the UA's and UP's are trying to communicate with us specifically. No - UA's are searching for a ship (hence scanning our ship). They have found the Thargoid ship but cannot locate it. They have called for UPs to scour the planet
What the UP message means. Pre loaded software to search a specific planet based on the UA's reporting.
What is so interesting about Merope? (Although there are interesting theories about the mathematical design of the Merope system) There is a crashed alien spacecraft there.

so the point of this theory is, and the possible experiment is to search Merope 5c - more. (Note I'm not proposing this is correct, but it's a valid theory. It cannot be disproved however, unless every part of Merope 5c was searched, and even then we could not be sure it was not still correct.)[up]

 

[crushdepth]

Hi folks, I don't want to give too much away as I'm unsure exactly how this info was obtained, and have no way to back it up, but someone who can be considered a reliable source and is a well known member of the ED community claims that someone has decoded a morse message in the UP audio.

I know I'm being rather vague - I don't want to take the fun away from you guys - but seriously, look for morse.

Please don't take this the wrong way, because you are certainly not the only person doing it, but please just post what you have or don't post at all. When people post "I HAVE IT!!! And I'll tell yer later" and disappear and nothing further is heard again. It's just adding to the noise, and good ideas that might be worthy of consideration are drowning in the noise.

Give me some signal

 

[LordZoltan]

Lord Zoltan <bows> we must have been typing the same thing at the same time

If I was assigning a team to investigate this, I'd give each person one question and the spectrogram as the possible answer, each person goes off and comes up with a theory (however bizarre), using the spectrogram as the answer, then once all the answers are in (independantly) each person gets another question to work with.

Randomly assigning scanning honking and farting tests to these rare UP's seems a slight waste of resources.

o7 commander

 

[Mike Juliett Kilo]

Yeah, the vertical bars and so forth remind me a bit of internet over voice lines (i.e. dial-up internet) type signals. Same frequency bands too really.

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Sorry for more "looks like X" stuff

 

[TheDayman]

Woot. New thread.
Maybe we can stop the 100 pages per day of random "I think it looks like" musings. Unless your thoughts lead to a testable hypothesis, it really has been said at least 10 time already. If it does lead to a testable hypothesis, go and test it.

While I agree with this, the UP was honked at before and nothing ever happened. Did we determine you HAVE to have a UA in the hold for the UP to respond? Or will it respond without one? Or did the Hand of God (FDev) reach in and "activate" the UP hidden in one of their updates? Some old ideas might need to be touched on again just to double-check.

 

[CMDR MadRaptor]

I've cleaned up the audio a bit more and now I feel like it is saying, "You're orbit will lead to these." Yes I'm aware that the voices line of thought is not the best but I'm not giving up on it. I feel there is something there. Here is the link to the new audio.....

https://soundcloud.com/timothy-rawlings/up-voice-2

 

[TheDayman]

It's always been my belief that Barnacles are some kind of giant, living creature. Like a massive, mineral-eating crab.

And it...excretes... meta-alloys? So we're all carrying around space crab... excrement? I wonder if it tastes like chicken...

 

[LordZoltan]

While I agree with this, the UP was honked at before and nothing ever happened. Did we determine you HAVE to have a UA in the hold for the UP to respond? Or will it respond without one? Or did the Hand of God (FDev) reach in and "activate" the UP hidden in one of their updates? Some old ideas might need to be touched on again just to double-check.

We've never thought you need a UA in the hold - Riz was quite clear that this was not the case.

 

[TFW Primus]

Apologies if any one has already suggested this but could the key work over top of the hud when aligned to a certain point A from point B or at a constellation like the seven sisters.

http://i.imgur.com/3Af7bff.jpg

I like it. Made me think of the Goonies. Interestingly, "the key" to One Eyed Willy happens to have a similar looking spherical object:

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[TheDayman]

We've never thought you need a UA in the hold - Riz was quite clear that this was not the case.

Oh, I thought Riz had a UA in his hold when the UP "woke up" the first time? So if the UP was scanned before (or did I read that wrong too?), did FDev pull another barnacle trick and make them start working?

 

[mrrobbins1]

http://imgur.com/a/A8hb3

This what I actually see in the above image,

172C13.23+137i



Pretty meaningless to me.

172c18 would be a valid hex file for the colour green, which the k

I think I read in the last thread that one of the angles on the center pictogram was 137, I may be wrong though.

Probably just noise I think

 

[iFred]

Probably just noise I think

If "they" know numbers, they could have written them pretty clear into the picture. Same goes to letters.

 

[Allant Doran]

If "they" know numbers, they could have written them pretty clear into the picture. Same goes to letters.

Unless it is similar to war-time encryption.

They want somebody to work it out but not everyone. Therefor the message is definite but obscured.