UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Absolutely. Although there are a couple of things we dont know:

- did (the guy at) frontier who "designed" this picture made a mistake? (designed by humans... we should not forget that we are playing a game here)
- is this message meant to reveal ALL information or is it just a puzzle-part?

Thats a very good cause for concern.
The globe and arethmatics for math I think is unversal enough.

I do have problem with Seconds being used as a yardstick through the message though. It's a human term.
(EDIT: Removed Hz. Cycles so it is universal - getting the message requires the same understanding of Hz. Never-mind.)
Having Pi to appear may be a side effect of what FD designed it. I hope not.
I'll treat it as it didn't come as an FD accident but rather "see this number, it means you and I can talk, we understand the significance of this number. Now go use it in this message"

FD could have made that mistake of course. I'll stay open minded enought for that, but I'll try to look at other facts before that.

Binary decoding is a good tool.
Aretmatics 'decoding' is too. And using constants such as speed of light or other well known constants.

And btw, All puzles has to start somewhere - regardless, you wont know how big the puzzle is unless you have solved it.
We haven't decided how 'big' the image-puzzle is - the boundaries of it.
So, yes, we're only looking at part of the puzzle.
 
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Woot. New thread.
Maybe we can stop the 100 pages per day of random "I think it looks like" musings. Unless your thoughts lead to a testable hypothesis, it really has been said at least 10 time already. If it does lead to a testable hypothesis, go and test it.
IMHO to progress this, we need more, higher quality (if possible) recordings. Until we can either see a change in the main "HUD" due to location/other environmental changes, or we can see more detail in some of the currently fuzzy sections (specifically the left Tardis area), the image will lead nowhere.

Hunt UP Convoys
Hunt Wild UP
Go have fun doing stuff

I don't think it's physically possible to get better "resolution" in the low frequency areas of the UP sound image thing. Low frequency is just necessarily lower resolution. My unsupported guess is that we'll see a change in the higher frequency parts of the image when we've hit upon the correct location or circumstance, exactly as you say.
 
I'm also the proponent of the missing being part of this. Like I said I bet they are in Col70 ad some of humanity know it (corporations and what not) but are secretly dealing with them. We'll find the remnants of that human race has grown significantly and have ships but have "changed" or evolved differently in a short period of time. They will become a new "superpower" in the Orion areas.


At the end of the last conflict with them when the mycoid virus left them without jump capability, they became stranded in various places. This missing were in fact taken as lab rats or whatever by them, now find themselves perhaps able to fight back as they can't call in back up. Fast forward some time, perhaps the missing have managed to get hold of their captors Tech and are out looking either for them to get revenge on or maybe us.

*No idea, just going with your flow, man. Going with your flow.
 
I agree. It's a self-contained package. Just like the morse - both when it gave the nearest body's name; and latterly the ship diagram.

What then does the newsletter description mean - they describe it as a key? A key to what? Surely that directly implies it's not self-contained, but needs to be combined with some other element.
 
I honestly starting to think that we won't resolve this puzzle till frontier wants us to solve it..

Some kind of acknowledgement we are still in business would be much appreciated to be honest.

You're right. The answer will not discovered until goodwill of devs.
Perhaps the answer is 42

Seriously, my idea after watching videos : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdn2cRkoQMIMay the probes are "way of transportation". I thought that after seeing the probe creates a wave around it when it transmits the audio signal.


I know this is a crazy idea, and to do it takes at least two wing players.
One remains near the UP use D-scanner while the other passes into the "sphere" having its FSD load to Supercruise.
The D-SCan take 5s to load
The UP explodes 10s later.

I would try myself but I'm not in game yet and I have no UP in my cargo...



I hope to make myself understood
 
While [km] are a human construct, pi is not, and as such angles are universal (they have no unit*).
For Long and Lat, there is only so much ways to describe the position of a point on a sphere without making it overly complicated and unpractical.

Just to say that while we can safely discard distances, I would not discard angles yet.

*degrees are not a unit, they are dimensionless. Then there is the though question of defining the origin of a coordinate system, which might be what you alude too.

Not that I can make sense of the thing (yet?), but if it is indeed a key, then where is the damn message XD ?

I agree with you there, because we can convert whatever product they have into our own.
I'm not discarding 'accidental Pi' nor arithmetics and degrees, parts of units 1/3, 1/4, 1/12 - it can be interpreted and converted into the units we need.

What our ships need. Lat & Long can be extracted. Galactic position can be extracted. But we don't have the frame of reference yet.
Aka "Longitude. Unlike latitude, which has the equator as a natural starting position, there is no natural starting position for longitude. Therefore, a reference meridian had to be chosen" (ref Wikipedia)

The same problem applies to whatever numbers we extract - we need to put it into context.
Where is our "meridian"?
Part of the message will tell us this.

Discard nothing - just read it the right way.
However I will discard an overlay over for ship-instruments, because I do not believe (if we look for aliens) that they would mimic a ship instrument due to the facts of KM, Seconds, and all of the other human constructs we've discussed.
 
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Asking again because it seems to have gotten lost in large amount of Non science related banter.

Are we able to power up the UAs or UPs via the new beam laser that heals shields and or ship components?

I dont have access to that so I need to find out. Does the beam laser do damage as well as heal shields or is it completely harmless? Will it damage non friendly or generic Targets?

Let me know if anyone has tried this or is it even possible.
 
No he was specifically talking about alien ships.

He was specifically talking about the fact he thought there were alien ships crashed, that could be found. He inferred he'd saw it / them. Others have followed the same co-ordinates and not reported any unusual wrecked ships. Wrecks yes, but no reports of alien, yet. It may be he got a Tip Off that did lead to one. Or he saw clues in multiple ones.

It would be nice, in the of science to actually tell us. If it was a random person no one knew of making these claims I bet they would be dismissed very quickly without some kind of proof. Science does not favour popularity or notoriety, it favours facts. Words without evidence or proof are just that words, and should be treated like anyone elses. [ no offence Kerrash! ]
 
Asking again because it seems to have gotten lost in large amount of Non science related banter.

Are we able to power up the UAs or UPs via the new beam laser that heals shields and or ship components?

I dont have access to that so I need to find out. Does the beam laser do damage as well as heal shields or is it completely harmless? Will it damage non friendly or generic Targets?

Let me know if anyone has tried this or is it even possible.

That wont work. Unless you could wing up with a UP it would act like a normal laser
 
Did someone say whales again? Keeps coming up - must be true.

It's not Whales. I'ts Wales. The missing are all coal miners from Wales [Abducted not long after the miners strikes] What we're hearing his the Choir singing, like the Tip Off messages say.."They sing and they find you". True story.
 
He was specifically talking about the fact he thought there were alien ships crashed, that could be found. He inferred he'd saw it / them. Others have followed the same co-ordinates and not reported any unusual wrecked ships. Wrecks yes, but no reports of alien, yet. It may be he got a Tip Off that did lead to one. Or he saw clues in multiple ones.

It would be nice, in the of science to actually tell us. If it was a random person no one knew of making these claims I bet they would be dismissed very quickly without some kind of proof. Science does not favour popularity or notoriety, it favours facts. Words without evidence or proof are just that words, and should be treated like anyone elses. [ no offence Kerrash! ]

Agreed but given the number of players now looking for something I think we can spare the resources to chase a red herring.
 
I think the most important next step, and the thing we should focus on in-game, is the proliferation of UPs. We MUST find a more consistent and reliable way of attaining an UP.
New types of Convoys, UPs Adrift, from Planet surfaces.

So many of our ideas, even little silly ones, cannot be tested because we don't have access to the UP.

On a related note: Where can I buy those protected Cargo Bays? Or do they not exist anymore?

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You narrow it down. In every system that is not Merope it points to the 'Merope' Star. Once IN the system, it points to the 5c planet no matter where you drop it.

Regarding the lack of UPs, our colleague CMDR Silent Pact has created a thread which is trying to organise a hunt for both convoy and free-floating probes. The idea is to pick a system between Merope and the UA shell, and record your encounters. Then we're not doubling up on any particular system, and keeping track of everything in case it comes in useful later. Hopefully we'll find a floating UP, or at least another place where convoys happen regularly. I did a couple hours last night and eliminate 2 more systems from the list.

It may not be glamorous work, but its easy to do while the ship's stereo is on and gives time to peruse the forums. :D For me, it is more useful than staring at strange symbols and listening to garbled audio until I convince myself they mean something that I cannot test without access to a UP anyhow.

The Great UP Hunt (Take Two)
 
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