UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[Jmanis]

Hang on, hang on. It might not be that big (hopefully). It could just be within whatever nebulae are around within the 140ly range. If we start searching the surrounding space, I suggest we start with systems in the nebulae, and I suggest this with the thought that Barnacles are usually found within the nebulae. Or if it is indeed true that the UA/UP are unrelated to the Barnacles in every way, then we should exclude the nebulae. Its your guys' call.

The UA shell is 135-150LY around Merope. To date it is literally every system in that radius range.

** clarification: Nobody is yet to find a system within that radius that doesn't spawn UAs. Many at many different parts of the shell have been tested, trust the guy who's shipped close to 600 in his lifetime

 

[MadDogMurdock]

I don't understand certain players' hostility towards the Canonn research group.

Canonn isn't a centralized entity commanded from a single post. It is a player group where likeminded players fiddle with whatever they find interesting at any moment. Up until last week I was looking for barnacles in Jellyfish sector. This started as a group activity but due to circumstances, most of the group fell apart before reaching the nebula. Only two ships reached the destination but bad luck befell the other one and I was the last one standing. I continued the search to the best of my abilities but drew the line somewhere. Now I'm on my return trip to the bubble.

What I'm saying is, no one is dictating what Canonn members should or shouldn't do, everyone is free to pursue whatever angle they want. Naturally there are mods given the group is run on a website and a discord server but other than that there is no central command.

If anyone didn't pursue their own research due to some Canonn member suggesting otherwise is entirely on themselves.

It's not hostility, it's dismay.
When a defacto leader of Canonn dismisses a line of research out of hand it sends the wrong message.

I've made a simple request because my skills aren't up to the job.
Something that would take about 30 seconds for someone who knows morse.

Now that line of inquiry is buried and unlikely to be followed up because we've now heard from MB again and there'll be another wild goose chase to interpret another set of utterly vague comments.

 

[CMDR Tom D]

Hi everyone,
Do we actually know where to find UP ?

Read the first thread description. yes. convey dispersal signals threat 4 in Ross 47 mostly and others.

free floaters not confirmed yet.

 

[LordZoltan]

My. if I realised that my saying 'it's not this' or 'it's that' had the ability to mind-control everyone then I'd have Derren-Browned you all ages ago for millions of pounds.

What's particularly amusing is how if I say something too forcefully, I'm somehow being a bad influence or something.

Who ever said my opinion was any more valid or correct than anyone else's? Just calling it as I see it. It could well be wrong - I know that, and don't mind about getting egg on my face for being wrong - just want to see us crack this thing.


Anyway - Colonel Kenney: well done posting something MB felt able to respond to. That's a result in my book!

Or should I not say that, is it being too controlling?

So anyway - that image must surely help us narrow down the likely place. '2314'? any systems got that in the name in the shell region? Or 3142?

Or, actually - somebody suggested a while back didn't they: perhaps the globe is a representation of the UA shell. If so, those lines must help narrow down the orientation and target area?

 

[SystematicChaos]

Hi everyone,
Do we actually know where to find UP ?

Only in convoys at the moment and that is a problem. If the probes are actually supposed to be probing for something, then they're not doing a very good job of it. It'll be a complete nonsense if the probes start turning up all over the place after the next update.

 

[NUMBERZero1032]

Some thoughts on the purpose of the UAs.

There seems to be a common theory that purpose of the UAs is to send information to recipients unknown. This may well be the case. But why use a code that is so easily understood by us? It uses an ancient human code easily decipherable by anyone with knowledge of human communications from the 19th century. While alien species may know morse code it seems most likely to be intended to be received by those who can trace their culture back at least this far.

It seems very likely that there is a message intended for us even if messages are also being sent to others.

When first encountered the UAs broadcast their location in a manner we could understand. This is the UA saying: "I know where I am!"

When UA behaviour changed it broadcast a representation of our ships. This is the UA saying: "I know you are here and what you look like!"

So when we encounter a UA it knows both where it is and who (at least down to ship type) it has encountered. It may well be sending this information to others. But most importantly it is letting us know that it is has this information.

So the question I pose is why does the UA tell us that it knows where it is and that it can see us?

These UA's could be transmitting to witchspace to the aliens. That is where they reside, after all. And they're probably transmitting these things in a language and method we understand because it is a video game, but it still needs to be somewhat cryptic.

Also, gonna throw this out there, an important "why" question is: why does the UA explode so spectacularly when it reaches the end of its decay period when floating in space? What is the purpose of that?

 

[CMDR Tom D]

I fear if anyone else mentions reading the first page (which contains EVERYTHING we currently know) again, someone's head may roll...

Literally everything is there, I don't know what these people are finding so hard!?

 

[CMDR Alonso]

Is anyone hunting for UP on Xbox? It's pretty suicidal doing it on my own and I haven't found any convoys so far

 

[kozality]

I might not have understood your line of thought, in what circumstance did you get your successful response? This is important as what you are saying is that from the start we had the failure message.

We got a "success" message high in orbit around 5C. Closer to the planet we got a failure, and close to 5B we got a failure.

All we've established so far, from previous recordings and our own limited testing is that the sound changes based on location. So from here, it's a "hot or cold" game to determine how to get the warm/success response.

 

[LordZoltan]

It's not hostility, it's dismay.
When a defacto leader of Canonn dismisses a line of research out of hand it sends the wrong message.

I've made a simple request because my skills aren't up to the job.
Something that would take about 30 seconds for someone who knows morse.

Now that line of inquiry is buried and unlikely to be followed up because we've now heard from MB again and there'll be another wild goose chase to interpret another set of utterly vague comments.

Sorry - how exactly does my lack of faith in the idea have any bearing on whether anyone helps? There is no control here.

And I am not a 'defacto leader'. Never said I was. Never have been. Never will.

Sure people said I was, but that was their own view.

 

[CMDR Tom D]

Is anyone hunting for UP on Xbox? It's pretty suicidal doing it on my own and I haven't found any convoys so far

Its the same universe. you're playing with PC players too

 

[rizal72]

OK, so I know there's been a lot of static, but you're kidding right? Nobody has tested out a UP within the UA shell yet?

Are you kidding?
I did a thousand tests in Aries Dark Region GW-W D1-52 with my UP and a free floater, before discovering the HONK THING.

ANYWAY:

We are able to found THAT SYSTEM, we have the message!
Like others have already said, the SPHERE in the spectrogram could be the UA SHELL.

1) The UA was sent do discover other life forms and to report about them: it discovered US and our technology (our ships)
2) the UP then was sent to tell us where the FIRST CONTACT will occur

Remember?

 

[NUMBERZero1032]

One last quick thought. Before we all fan out and search other star systems for clues, lets take a second to think about what we might be looking for. These UA's and UP's have to come from somewhere, so we're either looking for a portal that poops them out from witchspace, or some kind of launch facility, a factory, or a manufacturing station, or some kind of manufacturing starship. Maybe this starship plants down Barnacles and harvests the meta-alloys to build more UA's and UP's. It's unfortunate that we cannot determine what the UA's and UP's are made out of (unless we had some sort of GalNet confirmation).

But yeah, those might be the things we are looking for out there.

 

[RED D2 PACCA]

I don't think this is aliens like we hope it is!.. I think we are searching for "the missing" using alien materials and making there own Technology, I can't science like you guys, I probably can't pilot like you guys but my Orca can sure as hell take these guys home (update pending) when you work this out!!.. Until then I'll point my ship in the direction of the masses helping with tea and biscuits on the front line!..

 

[MadDogMurdock]

Sorry - how exactly does my lack of faith in the idea have any bearing on whether anyone helps? There is no control here.

And I am not a 'defacto leader'. Never said I was. Never have been. Never will.

Sure people said I was, but that was their own view.

You have more influence than you realize and as far as this thread goes you are the voice of Canonn whether that's the official position or not.

 

[LordZoltan]

Are you kidding?
I did a thousand tests in Aries Dark Region GW-W D1-52 with my UP and a free floater, before discovering the HONK THING.

ANYWAY:

We are able to found THAT SYSTEM, we have the message!
Like others have already said, the SPHERE in the spectrogram could be the UA SHELL.

1) The UA was sent do discover other life forms and to report about them: it discovered US and our technology (our ships)
2) the UP then was sent to tell us where the FIRST CONTACT will occur

Remember?

http://i.imgur.com/bV99bBE.jpg

Hold on - I like this - but why would it be so important to centre on 5C?

Outside of the Merope system, a sphere centred around a planet doesn't mean anything right?

 

[CMDR Charybdis]

So that means the information in the UP about the planet in the sound is NOT merope it is from a nearby planet probably in the UA range.

Its just the wording the U P is the PROBE which is something you'd think would be the thing looking since its a probe.. the artifact who knows what it is. Maybe it is the more advanced of the 2?

That's a testable theory.

Hmmm.... so if the UP had been discovered first then it would be instructions on how to work with the UA?

That first image in the UP data does look awfully like an artefact scanning a player's ship and sending the image somewhere.

 

[Jmanis]

You have more influence than you realize and as far as this thread goes you are the voice of Canonn whether that's the official position or not.

This is why I've never joined Canonn, didn't want people setting false expectations, especially when things like UA bombing jacques is on the agenda

PS @ LZ, can't rep your posts at the moment, so have a truckie scone

@ Riz, Good man At least the low-hanging fruit is being picked. And yes, totally agree the sphere could be the UA shell.

 

[Cosmo]

That's a testable theory.

Michael

Go test this theory guys!

 

[Nagual]

Sorry - how exactly does my lack of faith in the idea have any bearing on whether anyone helps? There is no control here.

And I am not a 'defacto leader'. Never said I was. Never have been. Never will.

Sure people said I was, but that was their own view.

Right you. Stop Lording it over us.