then u might need a few armed wingmate if the aliens say nope to peace
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afer 200 mission i got 3 so might take a long while to get them
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UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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then u might need a few armed wingmate if the aliens say nope to peace
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afer 200 mission i got 3 so might take a long while to get them
Repped & I applaud your attempt, but this just confirms to me that the grid is cartesian overlaid onto a circular feature & distorted to show that the feature is convex or concave. We have found no domes on 5C so it must be a crater. Quite likely the largest crater which is the major landmark. The radial line is then a bearing from the major axis intersection nearest the centre of the crater. It would be interesting to map the crater & see if the "central" peak is appropriately offset to align with that intersection.
Something like this? Yes, the planet spins backwards compared to Earth. The two tricky parts are defining "north" and then indicating a meridian line to measure from.
Three more than me...have done hundreds of missions over the last 7-10 days, all Elite ranked, of all types...nothing whatsoever.
The boring part of barnacle hunting is actually trying to find a planet worth searching. There just aren't that many of them
I have been wondering about that my self.
I like it. Simple.
And I liked your reply about the reason for the first quadrant to be at bottom right: the need to have a 138° angle.
And I liked all the four instructions you've proposed. The two beams of light the most
I was starting to do a similar experiment before losing the UP: I was hovering M5c with the UP in hold, honking all around it.
Problem is that the planet is huge, and hovering all of it and honking could be a pain, and too random.
There should be some more detailed place to search IMHO. But who knows?
One nitpick: 5C's axial tilt is not 138 degrees, it's arg. of periapsis is. Another problem is that it's still a needle in a haystack conundrum. We have no way to narrow down the system except by checking all of them or stumbling on them by happenstance.
Thanks . Might be why there are no bodies on both sites. Could just be empty.
or is it?
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It's like a giant game of Chinese whispers in here. Lots of information getting garbled and misunderstood. I've been through the last dozen pages and caught a couple of of whoppers. I'm sure there are more.
The axial tilt of Merope 5C is not 138º. The axial tilt of Merope 5C is -15.78º.
https://eddb.io/body/70
The argument of periapsis for Merope 5C is given as 138.32º. However this is problematic because the orbit is circular so there is no periapsis. I do not understand the 138.32º figure and as yet nobody has been able to give a good reason for it. The best explanation I can think of is that is simply an artefact left over from when the system was created for the game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_of_periapsis
The above is related to what Michael Brookes said about the different purposes of the UAs and UPs. He mentioned nothing about why they point where they do. Here is what he actually said:
I know it's difficult with all the noise, but lets try and keep our facts clear.
The axial tilt of Merope 5C is not 138º. The axial tilt of Merope 5C is -15.78º.
https://eddb.io/body/70
The argument of periapsis for Merope 5C is given as 138.32º. However this is problematic because the orbit is circular so there is no periapsis. I do not understand the 138.32º figure and as yet nobody has been able to give a good reason for it. The best explanation I can think of is that is simply an artefact left over from when the system was created for the game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_of_periapsis
The above is related to what Michael Brookes said about the different purposes of the UAs and UPs. He mentioned nothing about why they point where they do. Here is what he actually said:
I know it's difficult with all the noise, but lets try and keep our facts clear.
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I started wondering after some experimentation on Merope 5c.
I worked out a position at which Merope 5 was exactly centered on a 90 degree angle overhead. It was from that position that I did pages of math for a hunch I'd been following. And then I noticed that Merope 5 was no longer at 90 degrees overhead at that same position, after a day had passed.
Given the Axial Tilt of Merope 5c is around -15.xx degrees, I had thought that with a circular orbit I would be able to find a position at that Latitude where Merope 5 was stationary overhead. But unless I'm missing something, this does not appear to be the case.
Doesn't that just mean that is its furthest angle from the plane of reference or in other words the angle of it's inclination orbit wise?
Edit: My bad not exactly inclination but the angle between its ascending node and its peri, which is not inclination
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OK CMDRS,
here in Italy we all have August's holidays, where offices close, and everyone goes to holidays.
I'll be leaving on Friday morning to reach my beautiful birthplace Sicily, so please....
COULD YOU PLEASE SOLVE THIS DAMN MYSTERY BEFORE I LEAVE?!?!?!?!?!?
You don't want to spoil my sunbathing on the beach with a cocktail in my hand, do you?
Thanks for your kind understanding.
@Michael Brookes:
Could you please PM me the solution? I promise to not put it on the Frontpage.
here in Italy we all have August's holidays, where offices close, and everyone goes to holidays.
I'll be leaving on Friday morning to reach my beautiful birthplace Sicily, so please....
COULD YOU PLEASE SOLVE THIS DAMN MYSTERY BEFORE I LEAVE?!?!?!?!?!?
You don't want to spoil my sunbathing on the beach with a cocktail in my hand, do you?
Thanks for your kind understanding.
@Michael Brookes:
Could you please PM me the solution? I promise to not put it on the Frontpage.
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I'm quite confused by what you mean by "symmetrical". You say the grid center and the circle center don't "align" but I don't see how that's possible. If you use the main vertical and horizontal lines in the grid, and start your circle or ellipse at that point they must align. Basically I don't think I understand how you built your circle in the first image.
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I had Corioru and NLTT too, both checked. Nothing related to the thread.
I am still not convinced, that both the UA and the UP are talking to humans, but it's the result of a humanity based AI, that reuses/adapts human communication. What would you do, if you want to explore a certain region of space? You might send probes to scan and discover, what's around there. In my opinion the UAs are the gatherers of information. And you need something to collect the data: that might be the UP. So one interpretation of the UP image might be, that it's the accumulated data of the UAs (the noise and flickering) and a first analysis of the UP (the image in the middle).
Hey guys? Can anyone do Ross 154 and Ross 128 testing with the UA and UP? Ross 128 is right by Merope, and might JUST be a prison.
(Possibly not canon) Ross 154 however was involved with a Thargoid Science Mission (Specifically Merlin because it could support ammonia-based life), and the planet HAS been terraformed compared to FFE, but not what I'd expect a Ammonia-based lifeform to need.
Alternate ideas: The UA and UP are just locators? Has anyone tried testing UAs or UPs in the other nebulae yet?
(Possibly not canon) Ross 154 however was involved with a Thargoid Science Mission (Specifically Merlin because it could support ammonia-based life), and the planet HAS been terraformed compared to FFE, but not what I'd expect a Ammonia-based lifeform to need.
Alternate ideas: The UA and UP are just locators? Has anyone tried testing UAs or UPs in the other nebulae yet?
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-116.7 (MDM meridian) is the fixed longitude faceing M5.
Latitude will shift from -15.78 to +15.78.
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