so i could do with some help a quick question about UA's i've been flying around a few systems within the shell and found nothing so my theory is that the UA's are transmitting planet and ship data sent up by the probes this lead me wonder if the UA's are now only spawning near landable planets I jumped to another system with landables and found a ua near a couple of landable planets I noticed a few cmdrs are reporting slower ua spawning and wondered if they had the same?
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Off-the-wall thought about the UP diagram:
The reason I noticed was because I decided to head out to the area to look for Barnacles, since I still think there might be some to be found in other nebulae in the Barnard's Loop area and I have a list of potentially Barnacle-friendly worlds from my last trip. I used the 'Jaques trick' to check for colonies (go to Galmap and select by Government Type and remove the 'None' option) but nothing showed up, although it is interesting that there are Workshop and Colony government types... .
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On my way out I encountered the following worlds that are potentially Barnacle-friendly:
Could this be showing the region of space to visit? Specifically, it might be the Orion Nebula. If you go to the Galaxy Map and look down, you see a line of stars pointing away from the slightly-curved nebula, with the Running Man Nebula off to one side. The angles seem similar when you match up the line of stars with the line on the UP diagram. The Orion Nebula is the arc top-left in the UP diagram and The Running Man Nebula becomes the top-right marker and the Magellanic Clouds could be the two lines. What do other people think about the alignment - close enough for this to be of interest?
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The reason I noticed was because I decided to head out to the area to look for Barnacles, since I still think there might be some to be found in other nebulae in the Barnard's Loop area and I have a list of potentially Barnacle-friendly worlds from my last trip. I used the 'Jaques trick' to check for colonies (go to Galmap and select by Government Type and remove the 'None' option) but nothing showed up, although it is interesting that there are Workshop and Colony government types... .
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On my way out I encountered the following worlds that are potentially Barnacle-friendly:
Witch Head Sector HW-W c1-7 A 6 a (Rocky/Icy; 201K; 10.0% metal; surface gravity 0.19g)
Flame Sector GG-Y d4 A 2 a (Rocky; 338K; 14.0% metal; surface gravity 0.22g)
Flame Sector BF-R b4-0 A 3,4,5,6 and B1, B2, B3 (all HMC; ranges: temp: 246K (A6) to 454K (A3); all 32.6% metal; surface gravity 0.05g (A4) to 0.12g (B1))
Flame Sector GG-Y d4 A 2 a (Rocky; 338K; 14.0% metal; surface gravity 0.22g)
Flame Sector BF-R b4-0 A 3,4,5,6 and B1, B2, B3 (all HMC; ranges: temp: 246K (A6) to 454K (A3); all 32.6% metal; surface gravity 0.05g (A4) to 0.12g (B1))
Ok, my attempt to interpret the comment:
Remember, this was in response to the post where Michael said only one thing: "The transmission from the UA is its purpose."
My interpretation: So, that means the information (info about the planet that the Unknown Probe is singing to us) is from a nearby planet, probably in the UA range.
My interpretation: since it's called a "probe", it must be looking for something. It's unclear what the artifact is. A guess: the artifact is the more advanced of the two?
Remember, this was in response to the post where Michael said only one thing: "The transmission from the UA is its purpose."
My interpretation: So, that means the information (info about the planet that the Unknown Probe is singing to us) is from a nearby planet, probably in the UA range.
My interpretation: since it's called a "probe", it must be looking for something. It's unclear what the artifact is. A guess: the artifact is the more advanced of the two?
I give you the Oxford English Dictionary definitions for sonogram:
Noun:
1-A graph representing a sound, showing the distribution of energy at different frequencies.
2-A visual image produced from an ultrasound examination
"Spectrogram" may also be used for #1, though to me "sono" implies only sound frequencies & that's why I'm using it here, whereas "spectro" is more generic & could suggest a wider frequency range. I think that is the more modern usage, but then I'm getting to be an old git. And I did say I'm sometimes pedantic!
Except you can't test that, can you? Sorry I'm dosed on painkillers post surgery so I can't tell if you are being humerous or not
I don't know if it's testable, or why it would matter anyways. And I just told you the only test I could think of: check what each of them points at, and compare. People keep talking about a UA "bubble", so I'm guessing it is pointing to a broad "area" (a volume), while the UP is pointing to an exact pinpoint location. But I'm not sure. Anyways, then see what I said: the one pointing to a more specific location might be more advanced.
Admittedly, it's pretty weak evidence anyways. And I can't see why it would matter.
Which part? What test do you propose?
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For what it's worth I would just like to point out that in all my exploring and I've done quite a bit of it:
Systems visited 11,914
level 3 scans 93,611
In the last eight months I've yet to find another 14% metal content rocky body orbiting a secondary gas giant or dwarf. They are usually somewhere between 3.0 to 9.8% and the 14% are only found around other rocky or metallic planets. So Merope 5c is extremely unique. I would say that 5c was possibly captured at some time.
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Just a friendly reminder:
PLEASE READ THE FIRST PAGE IN ITS ENTIRETY BEFORE POSTING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE NEW. Thank you. At least 1/2 of the stuff I see posted here is covered in Rizals' page 1 explainer.
Michael has told us that the purpose of the UA was the (wireframe) message it was sending us.
That's it.
maybe the pointing is important, but at this point I think it's ancillary to everything else at best.
Also, has it occurred to anyone that the entire purpose of the UP is the message it sent in the audio, end of story? (although I would like to know if there is correlation or causation for pointing to Merope 5c, which is probably important)
PLEASE READ THE FIRST PAGE IN ITS ENTIRETY BEFORE POSTING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE NEW. Thank you. At least 1/2 of the stuff I see posted here is covered in Rizals' page 1 explainer.
Michael has told us that the purpose of the UA was the (wireframe) message it was sending us.
That's it.
(emphasis mine)
maybe the pointing is important, but at this point I think it's ancillary to everything else at best.
Also, has it occurred to anyone that the entire purpose of the UP is the message it sent in the audio, end of story? (although I would like to know if there is correlation or causation for pointing to Merope 5c, which is probably important)
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My mistake , you re right COL 70 & Horsehaed Nebula still needs a permit.
I don t know if that can help , but i always found easy, UA's in MEL 22 Sector, and recently i found it:
http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...262/4C759B3F57115A875B7AFC962D1BB63D32E7D675/
"Unkown ship detected"
Actually i do my research in the EOL PROU nebula...
- There is definitely a grid pattern
Food for thought
Sorry, I meant a grid pattern to the background noise. This seems to be only in the galaxy map, as there is not a grid in the background of the planetary map view.
The part below
"So that means the information in the UP about the planet in the sound is NOT merope it is from a nearby planet probably in the UA range"
Testable I guess by getting a probe and going well beyond, perhaps several times the UA range with it -which we can assume is the distance of the furthermost UA from merope for this purpose- and honking at it like maniacs in several different locations to see if there is any difference in the spectrogram/noises then repeating the experiments again with similar conditions but also a UA in tow.
For all we know whatever was in the 7 sisters has already been found but the probes could lead to somewhere new for us to explore.
I don't presume to say whether it will give different results but that's how I'd test it. Of course I don't have a probe but I have spent quite a few hours looking for one
Presumably is the key there. Map says 0.0000 for me, so greatest it could be and be rounded down is 0.00004, which on a 0.02AU orbit - 2.98Gm - gives a periapsis about 120km lower than the mean orbit, unless I have miscalculated.
It's a very, very circular orbit. But it need not be perfectly circular, so the concept of periapsis having a defined location can still make sense. I don't know how stable such an orbits argument of periapsis would be in real life - that's such a small difference that peturbations could move it fairly easily I suspect - but this is a computer game ;o)
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I think the point is that a genuinely perfectly circular orbit does not have a meaningful defined position for periapsis. As I noted elsewhere however, it could just be very low eccentricity and rounded down in the GUI.
that just happened to me as well. 2 uss spawned near a landable that fits the barnacle requirements.
Possible lead?
This seems like it should be a worthwhile pursuit? See if the image we've been sent fits in some way to any planets in the UA shell (which is huge *sigh*). Maybe start with a preliminary, easy test?. And the UP i'd say is definitely more advanced: it needed input to send its message to us (the honk) and the message is much more complex than morse-ing a wireframe of the ship it was scanning, and the emp-like affect.
Michael might not be saying it's a correct or good theory, but it is something we can test. And because he responded to it I'm more likely to think it's an ever so slight nudge of "try this".
P.S. Rizal72, you have brass ones to try to run and maintain this thread. Or more patience and understanding than I can muster!
This seems like it should be a worthwhile pursuit? See if the image we've been sent fits in some way to any planets in the UA shell (which is huge *sigh*). Maybe start with a preliminary, easy test?. And the UP i'd say is definitely more advanced: it needed input to send its message to us (the honk) and the message is much more complex than morse-ing a wireframe of the ship it was scanning, and the emp-like affect.
Michael might not be saying it's a correct or good theory, but it is something we can test. And because he responded to it I'm more likely to think it's an ever so slight nudge of "try this".
P.S. Rizal72, you have brass ones to try to run and maintain this thread. Or more patience and understanding than I can muster!
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