Explorers at Jaques - You Have No Excuse Anymore

StiTch

StiTch
Boomer Kay said:
Anectotal evidence sais that with 0% structural integrity it does not matter if you have 400 or 4000000000 "hitpoints", you blow up in one hit.
If someone actually wants to help other players, I'd expect him to verify his assumptions first.
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"If someone actually wants to help other players, I'd expect him to verify his assumptions first"

Gonna quote that bit right back at ya.

So far our interaction has been you whining you don't like the thread because HP doesn't help you as much as you'd like, and then when I say "for an exploring ship the right mods add a real edge to survivability" you've made the assumption I'm talking about adding HP only and re-stated your moaning about HP.

You're worse at moaning than I am. Don't bother replying unless you're about to bring something to the table.

verminstar said:
.not falling fer this hype because that's really all it is...empty hype and vague hints and a bunch of pew pew players hoping to see more players around engineer bases to gank ^^
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I have a tin hat spare if you need one bud. They're super comfy...almost like they're knitted.

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CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost said:
Most important: How to avoid getting interdicted.
Not getting interdicted means not having to run or fight and the ship load out becomes completely irrelevant.
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And the one to watch out for...do not assume running away from your opponent gives you the best chance of escaping ;) Boost at them if needed while they're still regaining ship control, make it harder for them to get a lock on you soon as you can.
 

StiTch

StiTch
verminstar said:
Really doesn't come as any great surprise that you have a collection of tin foil hats, and I'm all good thanks. I'll take as many buds as yer offering though ^^
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The tin foil hats are for the fashionable look. I have no assumption we can block out invisible mind control waves, because I am not a nut...

*pause for effect*

...it should be well known you can't block them control waves out.

I have the buds though. Take them all, I am a stout kinda man ;)
 

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
verminstar said:
Then as yer on yer way back to the bubble, and the fact I'm still on a very large tangent detour to jacques, the chances of meeting you ingame is somewhere between zero and extremely unlikely.

The OP started with a condescending tone
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It's not my problem if you took my post to be condescending - it wasn't intended and frankly it isn't - that's just your opinion.

Also - I added this to the OP just now...

EDIT: The reason I will have no sympathy for you is..
1) You ignore "Winter is coming". We don't know what FDEV has in store for us concerning the Thargoids - and/or other aliens.
2) You chose to play in Open at Jaques, expecting it to be different than playing in Open in the bubble, and being surprised when gankers take the trouble to fly to Jaques and murder you.
3) There is no utopia in Open at Jaques other than either playing in Solo, or playing in a private group with other like-minded Explorers.


If you've seen my posting history in the past - I used to suffer from RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION whenever explorers got blown up by rabid PvP'ers, and similar things which caused me to feel outrage.

I have had a lot of time to ponder on this, reshaped my thoughts on how the game works and what different types of players expect from this game and the form in which FDEV are shaping the game as time moves forward.

So I guess I've gone from being what rabid PvP'ers are calling a "carebear", to "someone who has had their outlook on the game changed after a bit of a ponder". I'm the LAST person to go looking for PvP. In no way am I a bad-'asp'  , nor do I want to go down that route!

Lastly, what you see as being condescending, is merely me being realistic. And no one likes a Realist. Nope, we are NOT popular people.
 

GluttonyFang

GluttonyFang
Ziggy Stardust said:
I'll play. Link me!
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/286655-I-combat-logged-a-duck-last-night

I might not reply very quickly though, have a class coming up and depending on how important/difficult the material is, I might be active or falling asleep.

Probably the latter though, so yea, not going to reply very quickly @_@

Edit:

I should write something germane here before moderators eat me alive.

I think this is a good opportunity for the explorers (that needs a wake up call) to really prepare for what's out there NPC wise. Otherwise we are going to get a forum full of "NPC too hard/NPC not fair" thread spam on the day thargoids do poke at us seriously. But of course people won't listen/read...

Can't wait to see that first-day forum explosion.

And now I feel bad for the mods .-.
 
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Straha Yeagar

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Meh...while I am not so anti-engineer as some are, I am not going to bother anything more than what Farseer has given me, and it's been pretty decent. Submit and run is really the only way to go as an explorer. Get interdicted by a ganking crew, there isn't much you can do...they are going to be using the heat meta, and FSD scramblers. I have a low heat build, one that can high wake while scooping at max capacity without taking heat damage, so boost, FA off, silent running and high wake as soon as FSD cools, and hope for the best.

Point defense, shield boosters, chaff, reinforced hull, all that is not going to make as ASPX able to survive against a wing of engineered combat vessels.

As far as the whole "winter is coming", well, I am not going to modify my build until it proves necessary...the way I figure it...I'm way outside of the bubble, and if I don't need to modify, I won't get blown up and will continue merrily on my way. If I do need to modify, well, I'll get respawned back in the bubble, and will modify accordingly once my hand is forced by being blown up.
 

verminstar

Banned
verminstar
Genar-Hofoen said:
It's not my problem if you took my post to be condescending - it wasn't intended and frankly it isn't - that's just your opinion.

Also - I added this to the OP just now...

EDIT: The reason I will have no sympathy for you is..
1) You ignore "Winter is coming". We don't know what FDEV has in store for us concerning the Thargoids - and/or other aliens.
2) You chose to play in Open at Jaques, expecting it to be different than playing in Open in the bubble, and being surprised when gankers take the trouble to fly to Jaques and murder you.
3) There is no utopia in Open at Jaques other than either playing in Solo, or playing in a private group with other like-minded Explorers.


If you've seen my posting history in the past - I used to suffer from RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION whenever explorers got blown up by rabid PvP'ers, and similar things which caused me to feel outrage.

I have had a lot of time to ponder on this, reshaped my thoughts on how the game works and what different types of players expect from this game and the form in which FDEV are shaping the game as time moves forward.

So I guess I've gone from being what rabid PvP'ers are calling a "carebear", to "someone who has had their outlook on the game changed after a bit of a ponder". I'm the LAST person to go looking for PvP. In no way am I a bad-'asp' , nor do I want to go down that route!

Lastly, what you see as being condescending, is merely me being realistic. And no one likes a Realist. Nope, we are NOT popular people.
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Yer right...winter is coming. Inevitable really now that summer is over and autumn is starting...it's called the changing of seasons and happens all over the planet 4 times a year.

Ye said it yerself that ye don't actually know what's coming as regards specifics...so really all ye have is hyperbole, spin and theories at this point. I recommend asking stitch fer one of his tin foil hats...he has plenty to spare apparently. Hence the part about acting on impulse when no actual risk exists outside your imagination.

As fer point number two...I get close to jacques and switch to solo play...have done fer quite some time considering this isn't actually the first time the pew pew crew has been sighted there. They didn't kill me because I really didn't expect it to be any different than the bubble itself...which coincidentally is also played exclusively in solo mode. Actually that covers point 3 too which is convenient. Jacques has simply become an extension of the bubble with a long trip to get there...that's it...nothing more nothing less and will have all the same issues that the bubble has...in time.

I did actually explain that already...also explained I'll worry about it when I actually see something to worry about. Right this minute in time, I'm not seeing anything that would make me wanna run back to the bubble...nothing whatsoever. I'm sure things may well change but if that's in winter time as you claim, then I got a full 3 months to chill out and not worry about whatever little fantasies anyone comes up with regarding these so called thargoids ^^
 
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Erimus Kamzel

Erimus Kamzel
Pecisk said:
One additional point to make here:

Outside human bubble there is NO SECURITY. NONE AT ALL. Everyone claiming that FD should make rest of galaxy no fire zone just because you thought no one will nail you while you are exploring out there...sorry, but you are got it wrong. Michael correctly pointed out that there are dangers lurking outside, but with exploring than in uninhabited space - there is no safe space there guys. Never have been. If you will gather at one place outside human space, YES, sociopaths will get attracted too.
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Not quite true. :) Jaques has security - the Colonia Militia.

The pilots who died outside the station never called on the militia - the ones that did, got a response. The militia arrived and I'm informed they killed the aggressors multiple times, until the aggressors got fed up and fled (that wasn't mentioned on the video by the way :rolleyes:).

Point is, there is security out at Jaques if players ask for it.

The Colonia Militia will also be patrolling the Scutum-Sagittarii Conflux post 2.2 as rumors of something being added there grow. Civilian pilots heading out to the colony can call upon the militia to escort them through those badlands, and other militia will be there to protect ships as best as possible on their approach to the colony.
 
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Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust
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verminstar

Banned
verminstar
Erimus said:
Not quite true. :) Jaques has security - the Colonia Militia.

The pilots who died outside the station never called on the militia - the ones that did, got a response. The militia arrived and I'm informed they killed the aggressors multiple times, until the aggressors got fed up and fled (that wasn't mentioned on the video by the way :rolleyes:).

Point is, there is security out at Jaques if players ask for it.

The Colonia Militia will also be patrolling the Scutum-Sagittarii Conflux post 2.2 as rumors of something being added there grow. Civilian pilots heading out to the colony can call upon the militia to escort them through those badlands, and other militia will be there to protect ships as best as possible on their approach to the colony.
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Wouldnt it be easier just staying in solo mode? It's no different than the other 99% of exploring anyway. Trust is an issue fer me I'm afraid and I learned the hard way not to trust anyone in this game. Came out here to escape the pew pew crew, ye really think I would trust my safety to yet another pew pew crew?
 

Erimus Kamzel

Erimus Kamzel
verminstar said:
Wouldnt it be easier just staying in solo mode? It's no different than the other 99% of exploring anyway. Trust is an issue fer me I'm afraid and I learned the hard way not to trust anyone in this game. Came out here to escape the pew pew crew, ye really think I would trust my safety to yet another pew pew crew?
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That's up to you. Of course solo is the safest mode of travel.

But many see the colony as a great place to interact with like minded players.

The Colonia Citizens Network have recaptured the community spirit from the Distant Worlds Expedition and brought it to Jaques. So if you want multiplayer interactivity and join in with colony events, then open play or the colony private group is the way to go. If not, stay solo [up]
 
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