Engineers Medium Security Settlement List and Guide for Modified Embedded Firmware

I have noticed that sometimes patches mess with my SRV control bindings, the scanner is always the thing that goes.
 
It was one of yours from the list on the first page, 99% sure it was the base on Luguls. Just a very lucky RNG roll I assume.
Oh, there are 4 bases in the list for Luguls system, 2 of them medium security - a small and a large one. So I'm wondering which one=)
And yes, this is a lucky shot (however not the first reported in this thread)
Also, about SLF - you need Low Security bases to obtain them in the most efficient way.
 
Ok, I'm being thick here obviously, but what the hell do the Type designations mean? What is L3L, M4L, S3M etc? I can't find any 'key' to these so unfortunately the sheet is less than useful to me :S
 
Oh, there are 4 bases in the list for Luguls system, 2 of them medium security - a small and a large one. So I'm wondering which one=)
And yes, this is a lucky shot (however not the first reported in this thread)

I was at work earlier, got home and checked the original screenshot only to find I took it when I was still in turret view so it doesn't have the planet name in it, failing so hard lol :D

It is definitely either Luguls - Penrose Works or Murare - Boucher Holdings. I know because there are three systems close to each other around there (Luguls, Murare and Auschauts) and I visited two of them before logging off, then went to Auschauts when I logged on the next day, the screenshot was taken just before I logged off after the first two so it's definitely one of them. In each system I only visited the one base above. Of course it was also dark (!) which makes recognising which one it is from the planet surface next to impossible but you're more familiar with the planets and bases than I am, so here's the original pic.

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Hope it helps and sorry for not being able to say for definite - I only took the screengrab because it was such an unusual drop but since I know it's all just RNG anyway I wasn't thinking in terms of 'must remember which planet and base that was', it was more 'OK that was pretty cool'.

(Oh and I managed to get my SLF from a satellite finally, I just had the longest RNG run without getting one in an encoded USS that I thought I'd have a run round a few bases and see what I could find. I did try a couple of low security ones but RNG was not my friend again lol. Thanks though, at least I know for next time.)

Ok, I'm being thick here obviously, but what the hell do the Type designations mean? What is L3L, M4L, S3M etc? I can't find any 'key' to these so unfortunately the sheet is less than useful to me
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Unless I've totally misread them myself:

Size, Type, Security

Size = S, M or L. (I assume if you've ever bought a t-shirt you can work those out
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Type 1 = Industrial
Type 2 = Exploration
Type 3 = Scientific
Type 4 = Exploration

Security = L, M, H (Low, Medium, High)

So for example Penrose Works on Luguls 2 (the place I mentioned above) is shown as L2M which means it's a large exploration layout base with medium security.
 
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I was at work earlier, got home and checked the original screenshot only to find I took it when I was still in turret view so it doesn't have the planet name in it, failing so hard lol :D

It is definitely either Luguls - Penrose Works or Murare - Boucher Holdings. I know because there are three systems close to each other around there (Luguls, Murare and Auschauts) and I visited two of them before logging off, then went to Auschauts when I logged on the next day, the screenshot was taken just before I logged off after the firtst two so it's definitely one of them. Of course it was also dark (!) which makes recognising which one it is from the planet surface next to impossible but you're more familiar with the planets and bases than I am, so here's the original pic.


Hope it helps and sorry for not being able to say for definite - I only took the screengrab because it was such an unusual drop but since I know it's all just RNG anyway I wasn't thinking in terms of 'must remember which planet and base that was', it was more 'OK that was pretty cool'.
Heh, you know - in fact this helps. Taking into account that you've got MEF - this a medium security base. And when choosing between L2M and S2M - I see a skimmer hangar bay and a turret at some distance. So I can assume this is L2M (S2M has no separate turrets)=) So now I can add another entry - thank you!
And for statistic I normally need only type+data dropped (planet and name are not required).
 
Unless I've totally misread them myself:

Size, Type, Security

Size = S, M or L. (I assume if you've ever bought a t-shirt you can work those out https://forums-cdn.frontier.co.uk/images/smilies-frontier/biggrin.png)

Type 1 = Industrial
Type 2 = Exploration
Type 3 = Scientific
Type 4 = Exploration

Security = L, M, H (Low, Medium, High)

So for example Penrose Works on Luguls 2 (the place I mentioned above) is shown as L2M which means it's a large exploration layout base with medium security.

Ahh, that makes sense, thanks for that. At least I know what type of installation I'm going to fail at now :eek:

Is there any key to the icons on the maps? I'm having real trouble trying to orientate myself at these places. Oh, and a 'don't wander into this zone as you'll get locked in and security will go ape' warning may be good on those maps as well ;)
 
Ok, I'm being thick here obviously, but what the hell do the Type designations mean? What is L3L, M4L, S3M etc? I can't find any 'key' to these so unfortunately the sheet is less than useful to me :S
L3M and other codes were invented by me when I've built the classification for planetary bases - "SVS"- Size-Visual-Security.

SizeVisualSecurity Levelsub-variation
+++ - Lagre
++ - Medium
+ - Small
"" - Tiny (and no security level - otherwise it's a small base)
some number denoting "Visual"aspect (or settlement base model). Now can be replaced by "function"- hidden parameterHigh Security
Medium Security
Low Security
if present (1 or 2)

So L3M - Large (+++), type 3 (Scientific), Medium Security.
For how really all those types bases "look like" - welcome to the ED:H 2.1 MAPS in ED Horizons settlements 2.1 (cmdr dja sidenotes)
and here how to use them:

Also SVS classification in brief:

hope this can help you
 
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Ahh, that makes sense, thanks for that. At least I know what type of installation I'm going to fail at now :eek:

Is there any key to the icons on the maps? I'm having real trouble trying to orientate myself at these places. Oh, and a 'don't wander into this zone as you'll get locked in and security will go ape' warning may be good on those maps as well ;)

Since the maps are designed to allow data point scans, the data points are ringed in most of them. Easiest way to get used to them is get used to one and then you find it comes much easier, this is how I did it anyway. Open this in another browser window so you can look at it and read at the same time:

http://i.imgur.com/d7W5vLG.jpg

That's the map for large exploration layout bases, such as Penrose Works on Luguls 2. As you can see the path starts from the top right of the map. Now look at the part of the base building that runs horizontally across the map - you see the two red barriers that run vertically 'down' the map across that section? They are the red laser security doors and you can see them from about 5km away when you're flying in, so they're ideal to get your bearings from. Fly round to that side of the base (staying outside the exclusion zone) and park your ship facing the top right corner as you look at the map so you're pointing the way you want to approach the base. Undock your SRV, do a 180 and you're heading in.

I'd suggest hovering for a bit outside the zone though once you get your bearings and getting used to how the rest of the base looks in 3D, which a top down map won't give you.

On that map, the data points have green circles round them - there are five of them all together. The little backtrack at the start allows you to also scan the base's main datapoint (the red triangle at the tip of the loop) which is worth about 750k credits usually but you don't need that to complete the data scan for the firmware and other goodies, just the five circled data points. Each time you scan one you get a minute's timer added, so the only real hurry is scanning the first one and then driving off the roof of the building to get down to the second one. After a couple of practice runs, you'll probably have at least 20 seconds of time left from the first data point by the time you've scanned the second one, at which point it becomes 1:20 and you're going to be fine.

(Deleted the youtube vid because it happens to be the one where the guy screws up driving off the roof and makes a total hash of it lol. I might do one myself at some point.)

Heh, you know - in fact this helps. Taking into account that you've got MEF - this a medium security base. And when choosing between L2M and S2M - I see a skimmer hangar bay and a turret at some distance. So I can assume this is L2M (S2M has no separate turrets)=) So now I can add another entry - thank you!
And for statistic I normally need only type+data dropped (planet and name are not required).

It's 100% definitely an L2M, I only visited L2Ms that night. Cool, glad to help
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Unless I've totally misread them myself:

Size, Type, Security

Size = S, M or L. (I assume if you've ever bought a t-shirt you can work those out https://forums-cdn.frontier.co.uk/images/smilies-frontier/biggrin.png)

Type 1 = Industrial
Type 2 = Exploration
Type 3 = Scientific
Type 4 = Exploration

Security = L, M, H (Low, Medium, High)

So for example Penrose Works on Luguls 2 (the place I mentioned above) is shown as L2M which means it's a large exploration layout base with medium security.
Absolutely correct about Size and Security, however type numbers were assigned "in order of appearance", so for different "sizes" the relation with "functions" is also different. The image of the SVS I've posted above is the most correct representation (however don't mix up REAL model sizes and IN-GAME sizes, there is a slight difference - thanks FD)

Ahh, that makes sense, thanks for that. At least I know what type of installation I'm going to fail at now :eek:

Is there any key to the icons on the maps? I'm having real trouble trying to orientate myself at these places. Oh, and a 'don't wander into this zone as you'll get locked in and security will go ape' warning may be good on those maps as well ;)
The maps legend in different forms is also available - check the link on MAPS page or on Welcome page of my sidenotes.
Or here is the direct link to imgur album
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Thanks for that guys. That was very helpfull. I went to Penrose Works and did as you said, and managed to get around the maze and get all data points. Unfortunately, I didn't get a single drop. At all. Nothing. Nada. Got the 700K data package and all data points are now inactive, but no other data drops. After 3 weeks of searching for MEF, I've given up the will to live! I understand that a grade 5 upgrade should be hard to get, but impossible is just ridiculous!

I'm off to do something slightly easier to do. Like search for Thargoids on the moon!

Thanks for the help though :)
 
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Also, I'm on the way of updating my original "home" thread of the settlements mapping project - dated February 2016 - on the Russian branch of the official forum. As soon as I'll finish that really "huge" post I'll translate it and post in English somewhere here.
However it already contains "extended" legend for the maps. Beware - the post is huge and nested multi-layer type.

Djadjok, you went to all this effort to help everyone, I think we should all go through the effort of learning Russian.
 
Thanks for that guys. That was very helpfull. I went to Penrose Works and did as you said, and managed to get around the maze and get all data points. Unfortunately, I didn't get a single drop. At all. Nothing. Nada. Got the 700K data package and all data points are now inactive, but no other data drops. After 3 weeks of searching for MEF, I've given up the will to live! I understand that a grade 5 upgrade should be hard to get, but impossible is just ridiculous!

I'm off to do something slightly easier to do. Like search for Thargoids on the moon!

Thanks for the help though :)
Oh! Please, check your on-board data storage capacity - so far this the only known reason for not getting ANY data at all.
And if you mean you don't get exactly MEF - this is unfortunate, but perfectly normal - RNG is RNG.


Djadjok, you went to all this effort to help everyone, I think we should all go through the effort of learning Russian.
Oh, I don't know many Russians who managed to read my "huge" posts completely=) And wait a bit - as I've said, it is not finished yet=)
 
Oh! Please, check your on-board data storage capacity - so far this the only known reason for not getting ANY data at all.
And if you mean you don't get exactly MEF - this is unfortunate, but perfectly normal - RNG is RNG...

Ok, so I've calmed down a bit now. You're right, data storage was inadvertently maxed out with rubbish. I may give it a bash at another site tonight.

Again, thanks for the help :)
 

Ok, so I've calmed down a bit now. You're right, data storage was inadvertently maxed out with rubbish. I may give it a bash at another site tonight.

Again, thanks for the help :)

Shame about the data storage being maxed out but otherwise, great stuff. Once you've driven round a base with that layout a couple of times, you'll never forget the path. The key to getting your orientation right is just finding one thing you can always recognise on the base, like the laser doors. One of the other layouts has a landing pad which is pretty easy to spot on the way in and so on.
 

Ok, so I've calmed down a bit now. You're right, data storage was inadvertently maxed out with rubbish. I may give it a bash at another site tonight.

Again, thanks for the help :)

after building and Flipping 2 tables with all my chinaware on it i realized i was full as well.....
 
Been through 6 settlements and only 1 MEF :(. Anyone have an idea of what the drop rate's meant to be or is everyone meant to feel this       ?
 
Been through 6 settlements and only 1 MEF :(. Anyone have an idea of what the drop rate's meant to be or is everyone meant to feel this ?
To be exact - you've got 1 "seed" = 3 MEF's. It's not uncommon - 6 with nothing, the same situation as with 3 MEF seed from one settlement - you can find some evidence of this in this thread.
However, the droprates statistic highly depends on the number of participating commanders =)
It accumulates not so fast, but you can check it here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...A7-vOFwRSC35sbaonI7vvp58_HQ/edit#gid=20459779
Beware - check number of visits before any judgement.
 
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