An investigation into Frontier's actions on Combat Logging

[Sole Hunter]

Your right opinion counts for nothing yours carries exactly the same weight as mine, in the context of this thread some people are of the opinion that disconnects are combat logging. Those people are wrong, they'll always be wrong. Nobody cares beyond a few whinging gankers trying to inflate one issue above more serious ones to further their own extremely transparent agenda.



Of course you don't play the BGS anymore we ground your faction into the dirt and it was removed from the game. You haven't got a power to support anymore, let alone a station. FD offered to reinstate your faction after all the salty tears and you declined, as you were scared the same people who'd trounced you once already were happy to do it again.

You were right to be scared, we will do it again if you man up and join the game instead of hiding where the nasty carebears can't pick on you.

Don't use the word ''anymore'', we simply never played the BGS. We realized powerplay was garbage back in late 2015 and we simply decided to not bother with it and do what we always do best. SDC members never participated in the BGS.

Kill cmdrs, that's all we do. Oh! and we make dank videos.

 

[Gunnet]

Don't use the word ''anymore'', we simply never played the BGS. We realized powerplay was garbage back in late 2015 and we simply decided to not bother with it and do what we always do best. SDC members never participated in the BGS.

Kill cmdrs, that's all we do. Oh! and we make dank videos.

Being able to choose not to participate in gameplay elements you don't enjoy really is a great feature.

 

[Stigbob]

Don't use the word ''anymore'', we simply never played the BGS. We realized powerplay was garbage back in late 2015 and we simply decided to not bother with it and do what we always do best. SDC members never participated in the BGS.

Kill cmdrs, that's all we do. Oh! and we make dank videos.

Face it you got beaten, you had a faction and we took it away from you. When we were thrashing you we were watching the percentages so your claim that you didn't bother isn't convincing, you tried but you failed.

You need to git gud.

 

[xdeath]

Don't use the word ''anymore'', we simply never played the BGS. We realized powerplay was garbage back in late 2015 and we simply decided to not bother with it and do what we always do best. SDC members never participated in the BGS.

Kill cmdrs, that's all we do. Oh! and we make dank videos.

BGS =/= powerplay.

BGS is, actually, one of the more interesting parts of the game. It deserves a little more credit than people give it.

 

[Sole Hunter]

Being able to choose not to participate in gameplay elements you don't enjoy really is a great feature.

oh you know what I meant, we don't actively do activities that could affect the BGS. We do pvp, that's it.

Face it you got beaten, you had a faction and we took it away from you. When we were thrashing you we were watching the percentages so your claim that you didn't bother isn't convincing, you tried but you failed.

You need to git gud.

Fun fact we asked Fdev to remove the faction and what ever make you sleep better at night johnny.

 

[Gunnet]

Fun fact we asked Fdev to remove the faction and what ever make you sleep better at night johnny.

So you're saying that when loss was imminent you decided to bow out using methods outside the game rather than stay put and accept the inevitable?

 

[Asp Explorer]

oh you know what I meant, we don't actively do activities that could affect the BGS. We do pvp, that's it.



Fun fact we asked Fdev to remove the faction and what ever make you sleep better at night johnny.

Hang on - didn't SDC already state that their faction was removed by accident, FD offered to reinstate it, and they all said "No!" because, urm, reasons. That's not quite the same as asking for it to be removed. It's also simply ignoring available and emergent gameplay. Claiming that it never mattered to you, or was completely irrelevant to your gameplay is simply taking gameplay away from those interested in the BGS, and ruining their game

 

[Sole Hunter]

Hang on - didn't SDC already state that their faction was removed by accident, FD offered to reinstate it, and they all said "No!" because, urm, reasons. That's not quite the same as asking for it to be removed. It's also simply ignoring available and emergent gameplay. Claiming that it never mattered to you, or was completely irrelevant to your gameplay is simply taking gameplay away from those interested in the BGS, and ruining their game

You know i've been saying we don't care about our faction for the past 10 months maybe it's not clear enough : We don't care about wolfberg, we don't go there, we go where the CG's take place.

 

[Itaki]

My pleasure, believe me. When I play on steam servers, there's a reason I check the "VAC Secured" option, it's the same reason I won't be investing any more time or money into ED and will discourage anybody else from wasting their precious time and money on it also.

This community is a disgrace to gaming.

Killing clean commanders with no consequence is a disgrace to gaming.

 

[Asp Explorer]

Most of our members didn't even know we had a faction.

By SDC not having an in-game faction you are essentially immortal, ruining the gameplay of pro-BGS'ers, hiding away from real players, and have effectively combat-logged from the game

 

[Sole Hunter]

By SDC not having an in-game faction you are essentially immortal, ruining the gameplay of pro-BGS'ers, hiding away from real players, and have effectively combat-logged from the game

hahahahaha nonono only Sundae lol.

 

[Stigbob]

hahahahaha nonono only Sundae lol.

So you won't object to people lobbying for SDC's faction to be reinstated ?.

 

[Itaki]

Correct, we kill everything, we also kill our own members when there's nothing left to shoot. We simply like to shoot internet pixel space ships, is there an agenda behind some of the stuff we do ? of course ... we never denied it. However, do not be mistaken, SDC members have no allegiance, we are not loyal to each others in the proper sense, we fly in small groups and kill for pleasure. The only time we do not end up shooting each others is when we agree to fight in CG's or other events. Call it gentlemen agreement or w/e. It's also not uncommon to see SDC members flying for other groups.



We attack cmdrs, no matter what they fly. Killing a sidewinder is acceptable and within the game rules. Everything is permitted in open, does that make me a scum in this game ? Yes probably, I am evil.

Everything is permitted in Open ... except combat logging, eh? Well, whenever we get a fair C&P system combat loggers will be less justified in their actions. Right now, because their is a poor C&P system combat logging is acceptable, imo.

Do you drive over the speed limit in real life? Sometimes I do. It's a violation of law. And I do it. Sometimes rules are silly and need to be ignored.

 

[Asp Explorer]

So you won't object to people lobbying for SDC's faction to be reinstated ?.

That should be a community goal

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

… Right now, because their is a poor C&P system combat logging is acceptable, imo.
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It's not acceptable in my opinion as it removes pressure from FD to fix their game. Play Solo or private group and help increasing the pressure on FD to fix Open Mode.

 

[Shar]

Frontier have done a great job in getting so many of you so invested in what is basically a childs video game, get some perspective. Go kiss your wife talk to your children. Sorry to be so abrupt but some of the emotional input into this thread is borderline obsessive and reinforces my own decision to only play in solo, if this thread is a sample of the personallities that stalk open. no thanks.

 

[Gunnet]

Do you drive over the speed limit in real life? Sometimes I do. It's a violation of law. And I do it. Sometimes rules are silly and need to be ignored.

I think their position on this has already been clarified. Apparently you should never drive even 1km/h over the speed limit, because if somebody on a rickety motorcycle deliberately rams you at three times the speed limit you will be the one at fault and it's right and proper for the police to shoot you on site.

 

[Stigbob]

That should be a community goal

Two goals even, one to build it up as a shining city in the sky. Then another to jump up and down on it in hob nailed boots.

There could be a rare trade item involved maybe an aperitif called Wolfberg salty dog tears made with the sourest of grapes.

 

[DefiledDragon]

I think FD have to carry some of the can they made a game where a ship can be practically to all intents and purposes invincible against other ships and offer no protection what so ever to the "sheep" from the "wolves"

Also people have been exploiting the hell out of the game for the last 2 years, and be honest, many of them were PvPers like those from SDC using exploits to kill players. The worst have been closed, or reduced but the game still has a bagful of exploits many of which have guides on how to do them. The fact that FD have only out and out condemned one of them and only partially condemned others as well as totally swerving others still is another black mark.

Further more FD pitched a 4th game in a series which has always been pure PvE at a group who were largely PvE orientated and told us there would be different open modes with different rulesets where we could PwP and then only gave us one... and even in that open mode we got we were told naively that even then PvP would be rare and total 1 sided destruction handled in game such as to make unattractive with the most aggregeous matched together as well as block lists

What we actually got was a game where role of serial killer is the easiest most risk free role in the game totally unaffected by the instancing which affects other PvP roles

On top of that many expected an option of a totally single player game and that never came and few would have a problem with others exploiting a single player game

I do not condone exploits in a MP game, but combine the above issues and throw into the mix that it is. sDC members who seem to have done every underhand trick in the book to get their salt inc deception in private groups and you will get people showing zero sympathy and enjoying the shoe on the other foot

Yes, but we're not talking about the dumbfire/point defence exploit in stations, we're talking about people who have been interdicted by other players cheating to avoid destruction. You can't foist the blame for that onto FD, they gave us solo mode and private groups, but people still insist on cheating in open when there are two alternatives available, one of which negates the possibility of destruction by another player entirely and the other one by 99.99%, 100% if the only people in your private group are people you know personally who are PvE centric players.

I'm disappointed by FD's choices in game design as much as anybody else, believe me. What truly disgusts me is the "hur hur in your face legit players!" attitude displayed by the cheaters in this community. Cheaters who are blatantly admitting to doing so and against whom no action is being taken by Frontier. Frontier Developments are a joke, they should stick to single player games because when it comes to multiplayer game design and implementation they clearly don't know their arses from their elbows.

 

[Asp Explorer]

Two goals even, one to build it up as a shining city in the sky. Then another to jump up and down on it in hob nailed boots.

There could be a rare trade item involved maybe an aperitif called Wolfberg salty dog tears made with the sourest of grapes.

Salty Dogmaa Oysters

Naah - seriously though - it would be an interesting community goal. SDC would have a live measure of their support in the playing community, and an opportunity to git gud