Engineers Medium Security Settlement List and Guide for Modified Embedded Firmware

[galahad2069]

I replied your post yesterday night but the forum ate that post saying some kind of moderator approval was required, and my answer hasn't appeared ever since.

Thanks a lot for your helpfulness once again (I hope this one somehow manages through the wall of strict moderatorial rules).

So, once again:

As for #1-2.: Let's hope my lost post eventually turns up some day, I'm really not in the mood of retyping it.

As for #3: Drive assist OFF does not work for me. As soon as I turn it off, my SRV stops right away (the throttle goes to zero and I cannot set it to anywhere else unless I turn drive assist back ON).

I have another question though if you don't mind: following your kind advice, I travelled to an M2M type settlement (Wnuk-Lipinski Settlement on Mbukuravi 2 to be specific).
This one must be a medium size settlement (although I still find it to be huge as hell .
Have you got a separate map for medium sized settlements, or the ones that can be found in the first page of this topic apply to all settlement sizes (it seems that I'm not skilled enough to be able to locate all data points by myself).

By the way, I cannot imagine what on Earth the developers were thinking about the amount of time an average player can spent playing their (otherwise marvellous) game. This is the third free-king (dear forum moderators, this is not meant to be an alternate spelling of a prohibited F-word you might associate to, heavens forbid, I was just referring to some kind of a liberal sovereign) day I waste searching for some stupid firmware data in an unbelievably boring way, while all I wanted was a somewhat better gun upgrade for my ship.

Isn't there anyone in this galaxy of 400 billion star systems who can sell me some modified embedded firmware?
No matter how much I love Horizons, I'd gladly pay a million credits for a single unit of MEF instead of searching for orange WiFi antennas in deserted settlements!!!

 

[djadjok]

I replied your post yesterday night but the forum ate that post saying some kind of moderator approval was required, and my answer hasn't appeared ever since.

Thanks a lot for your helpfulness once again (I hope this one somehow manages through the wall of strict moderatorial rules).

So, once again:

As for #1-2.: Let's hope my lost post eventually turns up some day, I'm really not in the mood of retyping it.

As for #3: Drive assist OFF does not work for me. As soon as I turn it off, my SRV stops right away (the throttle goes to zero and I cannot set it to anywhere else unless I turn drive assist back ON).

I have another question though if you don't mind: following your kind advice, I travelled to an M2M type settlement (Wnuk-Lipinski Settlement on Mbukuravi 2 to be specific).
This one must be a medium size settlement (although I still find it to be huge as hell .
Have you got a separate map for medium sized settlements, or the ones that can be found in the first page of this topic apply to all settlement sizes (it seems that I'm not skilled enough to be able to locate all data points by myself).

By the way, I cannot imagine what on Earth the developers were thinking about the amount of time an average player can spent playing their (otherwise marvellous) game. This is the third free-king (dear forum moderators, this is not meant to be an alternate spelling of a prohibited F-word you might associate to, heavens forbid, I was just referring to some kind of a liberal sovereign) day I waste searching for some stupid firmware data in an unbelievably boring way, while all I wanted was a somewhat better gun upgrade for my ship.

Isn't there anyone in this galaxy of 400 billion star systems who can sell me some modified embedded firmware?
No matter how much I love Horizons, I'd gladly pay a million credits for a single unit of MEF instead of searching for orange WiFi antennas in deserted settlements!!!

(*and the second post also*)

Ok, there is if fact some problem with posting here as I've saw that there is a new one, but - "kind of "invisible". But now it looks ok, both your posts are present.

1) SRV driving: check and adjust your controls. In fact DRIVE ASSIST OFF and FLIGHT ASSIST OFF is quite the opposite things in practice. You need practice to master "flight assist off", and there is a reason to do it, but "drive assist off" is a normal way to handle your car. "drive assist on" is kind of permanent "cruise control", that can be sometimes handy, but only on a straight highway - on a 8x8 off-road vehicle in a pure off-road conditions it's a bad idea to use it=) I'm not joking - if you say that you've managed to finish scan datapoits run 2 seconds in advance to timer - with "DRIVE ASSIST ON" - that you are the real ace in driving. The only case when you need to use drive assist - is making videos/"selfies". Or driving kilometers away on an absolutely flat surface.
2) M2M in Mbukaravi system is in fact medium size (the biggest layout, imo, is the M5, but it is in fact a large one).
There is a separate map (more - a set of maps) for each so far existing in-game settlement layout variation (54 so far). The links to the maps available on the main mapping spreadsheet (the first link in my signature, also present in the first post of this thread). No, strictly speaking each layout variation has it's own mapping. Only layouts of the SAME size, and SAME "layout type"/"function"(base model) - but different "security level" - looks similar (so why the layout I'm usually define as "visual aspect"). However, the in-game approach for the settlements of the same size and same layout can be quite different depending on security level.
So, M2M is relatively easy (if you are using scan-trough-the-wall trick). Routes to do the DAP scan runs are also normally suggested on the above mentioned mapping page.
Sorry, but I cannot help you with MEF's - in fact I'm really discarding them now. It's impossible to share or sell, you know. My only advice so far - check M5H settlements. There are only 4 of them so far known.

 

[Drownerfood]

If you use a mouse and keyboard, drive-assist-off makes speed control very difficult, as pressing forward goes to full throttle. I use KB+M also, and have to go only about 22m/s around bases or I lose control/can't make turns/crash into buildings.

@galahad2069
What DJA is saying is he has made maps for almost every base layout variation with markers for the data access points that you need to scan, as well as most other equipment at each installation. M2M settlements are probably your best bet since there are only 3 data points to scan, and they're relatively easy to get at. This sheet has maps and overhead views of most of the settlement types.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...kRfGmZGDt742HjeGuIyvvlQzQ/edit#gid=1190305853
for M2M, just take a short-cut to here. The only key here is to scan the DAP in the courtyard, through the outer wall, then scan the others.

 

[djadjok]

If you use a mouse and keyboard, drive-assist-off makes speed control very difficult, as pressing forward goes to full throttle. I use KB+M also, and have to go only about 22m/s around bases or I lose control/can't make turns/crash into buildings.

Btw, 22 m/s ~ "only" 80 km/h - more than a risky speed for doing off-road on a slippy (icy) surface=)
My own controls schema for srv can not be of any reference as kind of a bit "exotic" =) However I remember trying keyboard - less handy but also works.

 

[galahad2069]

In the meantime I managed to get all the necessary NEFs, based on the information you provided in that extensive googledoc database. I don't understand how it could escape my attention before. Actually it wasn't difficult at all, thanks to the unbelievable amount of work you invested.

<font=Large Fancy Decorative Letters with Heroic Fanfar Music in the Background and suchlike>You're a real hero, CMDR!!!</font>

I had to visit a grand total of three M2M type settlements only, two of which gave me enough MEFs to upgrade my large multi-cannon. One unit of MEF came from each of those two settlements (along with some other garbage), but thanks to the 3x multiplier the game seems to apply to those kind of items nowadays, those two units added a total of 6 MEFs to my ship's inventory.

I even had some funny adventures on the surface of the last planet I visited for MEFs: having found all what I came for I was so happy that I decided not to return to my ship right away, but to look around a little bit instead. The surface wasn't too bumpy, it was fun to drive (I really don't have serious problems with drive assist ON, it's only the full throttle that can render things horrible , and minerals were aplenty (outcrops, mesoderites and metallic meteorites literally everywhere), so I filled my SRV with a metric shtload of vanadium, niobium, arsenic and the whole blessed table of Prof Dmitri Mendeleev. A few miles away I even found a little camp guarded by a bunch of skimmers that attacked my poor little buggy like angry wasps. I could have handled them from the SRV, but just for the sake of pure fun I recalled and boarded my ship instead, flew back to them hovering 10 m above the ground and hunted them down one after the other with the large burst laser of the Vulture.

PS: I owe you a load of praseodymium or whatever you prefer, and I'm willing to name the first planet I happen to discover after you, once the feature becomes implemented.

 

[Hurdler]

Hi Devari - been using your maps - very useful - thank you.

Got a problem with Neumann Settlement in LHS 1617. This is a L2M and should have 5 DPs according to your map. Scanning the "first" confirms there should be 5. I can only find 4.

Referring to your map - map shows bottom left building should have 2 DPs - at Neumann Settlement one of these is the CDT, therefore we are 1 DP down.
Top right building (behind red gates) map shows a DP and a CDT - at Neumann Settlement this CDT position is occupied by a Security (private) terminal.
So ............ I have located all 4 DPs shown on your map but can not find a fifth to complete the scan.

Do you know if anyone else has had this problem or is it just me being useless?

I would be grateful for any help from anyone.

 

[djadjok]

Hi Devari - been using your maps - very useful - thank you.

Got a problem with Neumann Settlement in LHS 1617. This is a L2M and should have 5 DPs according to your map. Scanning the "first" confirms there should be 5. I can only find 4.

Referring to your map - map shows bottom left building should have 2 DPs - at Neumann Settlement one of these is the CDT, therefore we are 1 DP down.
Top right building (behind red gates) map shows a DP and a CDT - at Neumann Settlement this CDT position is occupied by a Security (private) terminal.
So ............ I have located all 4 DPs shown on your map but can not find a fifth to complete the scan.

Do you know if anyone else has had this problem or is it just me being useless?

I would be grateful for any help from anyone.

I'm not commander Devari, but I'll try to answer you
According to my notes Neumann Settlement in LHS 1617 is not L2M layout, but L2L instead (yep, both are "large exploration" but with different security levels). So looks like somewhere an error has been introduced.
So the map must be something like this - five DAPs (and one CDT).
Hope this helps.

PS: however, bottom left building have two DAPs in both "security" cases (don't count CDT) exactly with the same placement, but they are accessible only from different (opposite) sides of the building.

 

[Hurdler]

I'm not commander Devari, but I'll try to answer you
According to my notes Neumann Settlement in LHS 1617 is not L2M layout, but L2L instead (yep, both are "large exploration" but with different security levels). So looks like somewhere an error has been introduced.
So the map must be something like this - five DAPs (and one CDT).
Hope this helps.

PS: however, bottom left building have two DAPs in both "security" cases (don't count CDT) exactly with the same placement, but they are accessible only from different (opposite) sides of the building.

Thanks Djadjok, Mine is a L2L too. My error. Still only has 1 DAP and a CDT in bottom left corner building - confirmed. I have been away and revisited 3 times - many hours. Still only 4 DAPs found.

 

[djadjok]

Thanks Djadjok, Mine is a L2L too. My error. Still only has 1 DAP and a CDT in bottom left corner building - confirmed. I have been away and revisited 3 times - many hours. Still only 4 DAPs found.

It's more than strange. Especially for this I've just updated the L2L core map to also contain reference numbers - here is the new version.
If I understand correctly you couldn't locate the DAP marked "d4", however you see the DAP marked "d3" and CDT marked "d6"? The "d4" is only visible from the passage separating two groups of the buildings (left upper and bottom one) - in front of the repair area/pad.
ALL L2L's have exactly the same layout without any exceptions (hard-coded).

 

[Hurdler]

It's more than strange. Especially for this I've just updated the L2L core map to also contain reference numbers - here is the new version.
If I understand correctly you couldn't locate the DAP marked "d4", however you see the DAP marked "d3" and CDT marked "d6"? The "d4" is only visible from the passage separating two groups of the buildings (left upper and bottom one) - in front of the repair area/pad.
ALL L2L's have exactly the same layout without any exceptions (hard-coded).

That looks like the one I am missing. I will go back and look again! Thanks for your help.

Edit: Yes it is exactly where your map says it is - hidden in plain site! Sorted! Again, thanks for your help.

 

[djadjok]

That looks like the one I am missing. I will go back and look again! Thanks for your help.
Edit: Yes it is exactly where your map says it is - hidden in plain site! Sorted! Again, thanks for your help.

You are welcome - glad that the issue is solved=)

News from DjaCoP mapping service:
1) Another commander - commander DrFreez (discord) - created it's own version of the site-driven list of the known planetary bases (also on the base of a known spreadsheet) - ed.b101010.ru/aul/
2) my own database also attained 1000 records and another S5H finally has been found=)

 

[NascentChemist]

Thank you so much for this guide!

 

[drkaii]

Big thanks for this. I will be referencing it, and demonstrating the routes, in my upcoming video series. Credit will be given.

 

[djadjok]

Big thanks for this. I will be referencing it, and demonstrating the routes, in my upcoming video series. Credit will be given.

Thanks, that must be interesting - I'm eager to see the resulting video. Contact me if any additional info is necessary.

 

[drkaii]

Thanks, that must be interesting - I'm eager to see the resulting video. Contact me if any additional info is necessary.

You've made it all pretty clear actually. I need to come to grips with that other guy's database at some point so I might have questions then. All being well, the series should look similar to my FSD range one: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmZswJzvjc8cyfN3bFns60-GUAzSsrqxt

 

[certhas]

anyone noticed a significant drop of the droprate for cracked industrial firmware? i scanned 6 bases now and didnt get any...

 

[drkaii]

anyone noticed a significant drop of the droprate for cracked industrial firmware? i scanned 6 bases now and didnt get any...

just started so don't know if there's been a drop, but that sounds like my experience. I think I got my first on my 7th, my second on my 10th, then I got 2 on my 12th and 2 on my 14th. Just need 4 more, hoping the pattern continues

 

[drkaii]

I have made a route map for the Scientific base, seems to be the quickest way to get job done:

And another for Extraction Medium:

Welcome to use in the OP, no credit needed

 

[djadjok]

anyone noticed a significant drop of the droprate for cracked industrial firmware? i scanned 6 bases now and didnt get any...

just started so don't know if there's been a drop, but that sounds like my experience. I think I got my first on my 7th, my second on my 10th, then I got 2 on my 12th and 2 on my 14th. Just need 4 more, hoping the pattern continues

Hmm. Rechecked statistics (here). No, so far all going as it was before.

 

[djadjok]

I have made a route map for the Scientific base, seems to be the quickest way to get job done:

http://i.imgur.com/oKQ5CTc.png

And another for Extraction Medium:

http://i.imgur.com/W43cjUT.png

Welcome to use in the OP, no credit needed

Great job!
o7

some remarks:
It's better to use the most recent versions of the maps (those for L3M and M5M), they contain a bit more of info, including reference numbers for the objects. Also occasional errors can be corrected.
I draw my own routes for DAP runs not always to optimize time, but taking into account some "educational" part - for L3M this is the difference in minimum approach disctances, in particular from the west (left) side of the settlement.
For M5M - some points to scan on you route will be beneath the srv level - not really handy. I'm trying to do them in "simplistic" way (and if possible from the "ground level" in case of significant gravity). Also there is a variation of the route where you will not be obliged to climb anywhere at all.

Added:
PS: If you are searching for commanders Haps or DrFreez (about their sites) most likely they can be found on the EGU public discord channel.