Just to note, SOL will be coming up over the horizon at around 265 degrees when looking from the large mound, the key stem is at 245 degrees and the bit that sticks out from the stem is at 270 degrees, whether this has any meaning, only FDev can know, but I'm continuing to watch it's path as it rises.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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KInda gotta offer my apologys then, I mean we know what they message says but after all it is a "New" one of jaques that was never Figured out, at lest we know its not fully related then(other than the mention of UA'S and etc) would be interesting to figure out whatever they have used to encode it with
What if you picked up the mission from Phoenix Base (Ram Tah's base), that doesn't even have a mission board does it?
You won't find a seperate option to hand in this mission!Thing is, on the mission board I just have the usual missions listing, there isn't a separate option to hand this in, I've been away and back and still nothing
It's one of the faction leaders (of the normal missiongivers) were you hand in this mission. Look at witch faction you have the announcement-symbol for an open mission.
And how another commander say's, you have to hand in the mission at the station were you get it from!
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yes you will be able to scan the stuff again, you just do not get notified. The way you realize is with the million counter in the task itself. Every successful scan gets you 1 mil plus. I recommend sticking to the solo ones, as you can predict what you get and be sure which you get
Does anybody know what this is:
http://imgur.com/a/p7NVp
Just found a strange looking rock outside the ancient ruins.
I have never seen it before.
It appears on the wave scanner but I cannot target it??
EDIT: other screenshots
http://imgur.com/a/zMaCV
http://imgur.com/a/p7NVp
Just found a strange looking rock outside the ancient ruins.
I have never seen it before.
It appears on the wave scanner but I cannot target it??
EDIT: other screenshots
http://imgur.com/a/zMaCV
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Ed does appear to be having a brown trousers moment. But that may have been the Worcesteter sauce
Hey Whats wrong with Worcester"shire" sauce? - BTW Worcester Sauce is a pale immitation, the real thing is made by Lea & Perrins in my fabulous home town of Worcester
I was working on something similar to this and I'm pretty convinced that the orientation of the obelisks and the reason WHY they WERE moved during the changes to the ruins must have some influence on what we are supposed to find out from this puzzle.
I did a little bit of basic analysis of each group looking at the latest images in the OP -
I posted the other day about how the obelisks when viewed from above point in different directions kind of like arrows. So wanted to put a bit more detail around that for those who are clever enough to notice something maybe?
GROUP A
The 10 obelisks are in two groups of 5 which mirror each other exactly and could be pointing both towards and away from the central earthen column that links to the centre circle. It could also be said that obelisks 1, 3 and 9 are pointing directly at the 3 x "support" structures.
GROUP B
The group of obelisks as a whole could be pointing in 3 possible directions, obelisk 5 appears to have moved and is damaged.
GROUP C
The arrangement of these is very strange first row is made up of two opposing obelisks with a small gap and a 3rd obelisk pointing back at the pair. Then there is a single obelisk between the 2 columns which is pointing at the axis between the columns. The 2nd column is a mirror of the first column. The 3rd and 4th columns are a mirror of the columns 1 and 2.
GROUP D
3 pairs of two opposing obelisks in the first column and the second column being a mirror image of the first, a clear design on the ground around these obelisks.
GROUP E
Appears to have 2 obelisks missing with only 8 visible and 2 or 3 of them badly damaged, similar to GROUP B. There are 2 x "support" structures which are aligned with the points of the triangle. They also appear to have pushed up out of the ground at some point (in history) judging by the disturbed earth around them.
GROUP F
2 pairs of opposing obelisks in the centre with 4 x obelisks which could be pointing in the same direction, another 2 structures aligned at the same angle as the 2 pairs of opposing obelisks.
GROUP G
2 groups of 3 columns of 6 obelisks (making a total of 36), these two groups appear to be pointing away from each other in opposing directions.
GROUP H
3 columns of 9 obelisks (making a total of 27), these appear to be pointing at an angle towards GROUP E, also 2 x "structures" aligned with the same angle at the top and bottom.
Other thoughts I had about the obelisks were that they might illustrate the number of planetary / stellar bodies within a system aiding identification of any candidates. I also like some of the recent ideas that the groups of obelisks line up or point at certain stars or bodies.
I've also compiled the total number of obelisks in each group along with a grand total.
A = 10
B = 6
C = 50 (2 x 25 or 4 x 12 + 2)
D = 12 (2 x 6)
E = 8 (2 missing so should be 10)
F = 8
G = 36 (2 x 18)
H = 27
TOTAL = 157 (with missing x 2 would be 159)
Hey Whats wrong with Worcester"shire" sauce? - BTW Worcester Sauce is a pale immitation, the real thing is made by Lea & Perrins in my fabulous home town of Worcester
Hereford is better. We've got cider
I do think the whole design of the site is important but there are so many interpretations. I think I'm going to get some paper and a protractor out of the kids school bags
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First of let me point out that the Guardians are actually freemasons. Sorry, I don't have fancy programs but you get the idea.
http://imgur.com/a/bv01h
I like your idea, mclester, I was thinking along the same lines. Did you notice though that one triangle only has one tower/rocket/compass shape while the other has 3?
I have surveyed the site some more. Previously I thought there was more meaning to the 2 groups at G but looking at the obelisk directions I could only see one group where they were pointing towards the center piece and one where they are pointing away. These obelisk directions do support an earlier idea I had about there being a route in there as the obelisks at group E first point toward the triangle and then in the triangle point towards the edge, pointing the way along the random pieces of wall inside the hexagon.
I was most intrigued by the cogwheels or gears you see on the edge of both planets though. So where do you see these as well? I found out that there was a Greek analogue computer called the Antikythera found, dated a few hundred years BC and too advanced for the time.
This wasn't exactly what I was looking for but the ruins do bear resemblance to astronomical clocks/calendars. So something with alignments does seem to be key here.
I also had an idea about the possibility of using epicyclic gearing to calculate the orbit of both planets, not sure if this works with different sized planets though. It would usually be a sun and a planet or planets.
The hexagon shape is still bothering me though. The clocks and calendars I mentioned earlier would be in circle shapes. So the only plausible answer is that they are indeed freemasons.
Some pics showing the cogwheels and obelisk directions:
http://imgur.com/a/hylvs
http://imgur.com/a/bv01h
I like your idea, mclester, I was thinking along the same lines. Did you notice though that one triangle only has one tower/rocket/compass shape while the other has 3?
I have surveyed the site some more. Previously I thought there was more meaning to the 2 groups at G but looking at the obelisk directions I could only see one group where they were pointing towards the center piece and one where they are pointing away. These obelisk directions do support an earlier idea I had about there being a route in there as the obelisks at group E first point toward the triangle and then in the triangle point towards the edge, pointing the way along the random pieces of wall inside the hexagon.
I was most intrigued by the cogwheels or gears you see on the edge of both planets though. So where do you see these as well? I found out that there was a Greek analogue computer called the Antikythera found, dated a few hundred years BC and too advanced for the time.
This wasn't exactly what I was looking for but the ruins do bear resemblance to astronomical clocks/calendars. So something with alignments does seem to be key here.
I also had an idea about the possibility of using epicyclic gearing to calculate the orbit of both planets, not sure if this works with different sized planets though. It would usually be a sun and a planet or planets.
The hexagon shape is still bothering me though. The clocks and calendars I mentioned earlier would be in circle shapes. So the only plausible answer is that they are indeed freemasons.
Some pics showing the cogwheels and obelisk directions:
http://imgur.com/a/hylvs
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Attempting to identify candidates for other ancient site systems
Hey Cmdrs,
Just a quick note - I've been trying to identify potential candidates for other ancient site systems based on the premise that the ruins are a node in a network which is distibuted in a regular geometrical pattern.
No joy out to 21.5ly. I am however applying a very strict cut of only considering systems which are equidistant to the ruins to within a margin of 0.01 ly.
No joy so far.
The main limiting factor is that I'm manually having to look up system info and copy and paste co-ordinates, which takes ages.
I could do it all very quickly if I had a dataset to work from and could cut out the manual work. All I need is system name and x,y,z co-ordinates out to say 100 or 200 ly from the ruins. Does anyone know a way I can get that in a single dataset?
Hey Cmdrs,
Just a quick note - I've been trying to identify potential candidates for other ancient site systems based on the premise that the ruins are a node in a network which is distibuted in a regular geometrical pattern.
No joy out to 21.5ly. I am however applying a very strict cut of only considering systems which are equidistant to the ruins to within a margin of 0.01 ly.
No joy so far.
The main limiting factor is that I'm manually having to look up system info and copy and paste co-ordinates, which takes ages.
I could do it all very quickly if I had a dataset to work from and could cut out the manual work. All I need is system name and x,y,z co-ordinates out to say 100 or 200 ly from the ruins. Does anyone know a way I can get that in a single dataset?
First of let me point out that the Guardians are actually freemasons. Sorry, I don't have fancy programs but you get the idea.
http://imgur.com/a/bv01h
I like your idea, mclester, I was thinking along the same lines. Did you notice though that one triangle only has one tower/rocket/compass shape while the other has 3?
I have surveyed the site some more. Previously I thought there was more meaning to the 2 groups at G but looking at the obelisk directions I could only see one group where they were pointing towards the center piece and one where they are pointing away. These obelisk directions do support an earlier idea I had about there being a route in there as the obelisks at group E first point toward the triangle and then in the triangle point towards the edge, pointing the way along the random pieces of wall inside the hexagon.
I was most intrigued by the cogwheels or gears you see on the edge of both planets though. So where do you see these as well? I found out that there was a Greek analogue computer called the Antikythera found, dated a few hundred years BC and too advanced for the time.
This wasn't exactly what I was looking for but the ruins do bear resemblance to astronomical clocks/calendars. So something with alignments does seem to be key here.
I also had an idea about the possibility of using epicyclic gearing to calculate the orbit of both planets, not sure if this works with different sized planets though. It would usually be a sun and a planet or planets.
The hexagon shape is still bothering me though. The clocks and calendars I mentioned earlier would be in circle shapes. So the only plausible answer is that they are indeed freemasons.
Some pics showing the cogwheels and obelisk directions:
http://imgur.com/a/hylvs
The gaps in the rings around the circle isn't necessarily part of the original design. Might just be from weathering. Other spots along the outside of the hex show weathering and time based damage, so why not the circles?
Thanx for the info. Looks like I need to reduce my image size first though, not all showing.
Shoot at it?
It appeared to be a bugged shot outcrop, that still appeared on the scanner.
Sorry for the false alarm
Scanner powered off? Where is it?
Hey Whats wrong with Worcester"shire" sauce? - BTW Worcester Sauce is a pale immitation, the real thing is made by Lea & Perrins in my fabulous home town of Worcester
I was working on something similar to this and I'm pretty convinced that the orientation of the obelisks and the reason WHY they WERE moved during the changes to the ruins must have some influence on what we are supposed to find out from this puzzle.
I did a little bit of basic analysis of each group looking at the latest images in the OP -
I posted the other day about how the obelisks when viewed from above point in different directions kind of like arrows. So wanted to put a bit more detail around that for those who are clever enough to notice something maybe?
GROUP A
The 10 obelisks are in two groups of 5 which mirror each other exactly and could be pointing both towards and away from the central earthen column that links to the centre circle. It could also be said that obelisks 1, 3 and 9 are pointing directly at the 3 x "support" structures.
GROUP B
The group of obelisks as a whole could be pointing in 3 possible directions, obelisk 5 appears to have moved and is damaged.
GROUP C
The arrangement of these is very strange first row is made up of two opposing obelisks with a small gap and a 3rd obelisk pointing back at the pair. Then there is a single obelisk between the 2 columns which is pointing at the axis between the columns. The 2nd column is a mirror of the first column. The 3rd and 4th columns are a mirror of the columns 1 and 2.
GROUP D
3 pairs of two opposing obelisks in the first column and the second column being a mirror image of the first, a clear design on the ground around these obelisks.
GROUP E
Appears to have 2 obelisks missing with only 8 visible and 2 or 3 of them badly damaged, similar to GROUP B. There are 2 x "support" structures which are aligned with the points of the triangle. They also appear to have pushed up out of the ground at some point (in history) judging by the disturbed earth around them.
GROUP F
2 pairs of opposing obelisks in the centre with 4 x obelisks which could be pointing in the same direction, another 2 structures aligned at the same angle as the 2 pairs of opposing obelisks.
GROUP G
2 groups of 3 columns of 6 obelisks (making a total of 36), these two groups appear to be pointing away from each other in opposing directions.
GROUP H
3 columns of 9 obelisks (making a total of 27), these appear to be pointing at an angle towards GROUP E, also 2 x "structures" aligned with the same angle at the top and bottom.
Other thoughts I had about the obelisks were that they might illustrate the number of planetary / stellar bodies within a system aiding identification of any candidates. I also like some of the recent ideas that the groups of obelisks line up or point at certain stars or bodies.
I've also compiled the total number of obelisks in each group along with a grand total.
A = 10
B = 6
C = 50 (2 x 25 or 4 x 12 + 2)
D = 12 (2 x 6)
E = 8 (2 missing so should be 10)
F = 8
G = 36 (2 x 18)
H = 27
TOTAL = 157 (with missing x 2 would be 159)
i counted 165 - 2 broken ones is 163 obelisks... you sure your maths is correct?
What's the system they are at when they talk about that? Where's that? Looks a bit like barnards loop with the red!
Skaudai CH-B D14-34 is the system on his map where he is at... its a port that starts with a Bxxx Port
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