Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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Great, so now the ruins sites MOVE!? That's a low blow, FDev. It's hard enough finding static ruins sites!
For 3rd site I can Validate that I can see a light blue dot up to 9-10 km in solo, and private at least. It shows up near the V shaped obelisk group.
Appears much like a barnacle dot.
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Actually that is something we do today. The Moon's prime meridian points directly at Earth, Titan's at Saturn, and Pluto and Charon at each other. However, one tidally locked body I travelled to in order to check this out in game didn't follow suit, so I think FDev dropped a bit of a scientific clanger there
More than likely a bug. I've come across outcrops marked by tiny blue dots on the radar. Maybe one accidentally spawned within the ruins. I've been at the new ruins all afternoon and saw no such blue POI dot. Even left to visit the Brain Trees and came back and still no blue dot over the ruins.
Just to confirm, there is no POI for this site, I'm 2.42km directly above it, it's not even showing anything at max sensor range.
Apologies if this sounds a crazy theory - and if someone else has already said it - but I believe I may understand what is going on with the duplicates etc. and possibly help us work out how many sites there are. And perhaps even understand the bugs a bit.
Beta site (the original) is meant to contain 13 data packages, but we can get 36. What if the copy is meant to have the next 13 of middle band... and therefore a 3rd copy hold the last 13? If that is true, then might there be 2 or 3 copies of Apha site (11 in solo and 32 in total I think). That means that there is a third 'type' of site to find (Gamma) with the final band of data packages (I am assuming 2 or 3 of those too).
And the bugs are simply that they built all three into one 'type' and its - whats the best word for it - leaking.
I have absolutely 0% evidence for this other than the maths of the site, what we are meant to be picking up and the way the sites seem to be working. But it does mean that potentially we have 6 more ruins to locate...
Thank you for letting me get that off my chest
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There *is* a POI quite near to the 3rd site - but it isnt the third site. Perhaps that is what you are seeing
Beta site (the original) is meant to contain 13 data packages, but we can get 36. What if the copy is meant to have the next 13 of middle band... and therefore a 3rd copy hold the last 13? If that is true, then might there be 2 or 3 copies of Apha site (11 in solo and 32 in total I think). That means that there is a third 'type' of site to find (Gamma) with the final band of data packages (I am assuming 2 or 3 of those too).
And the bugs are simply that they built all three into one 'type' and its - whats the best word for it - leaking.
I have absolutely 0% evidence for this other than the maths of the site, what we are meant to be picking up and the way the sites seem to be working. But it does mean that potentially we have 6 more ruins to locate...
Thank you for letting me get that off my chest
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There *is* a POI quite near to the 3rd site - but it isnt the third site. Perhaps that is what you are seeing
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Here's a little graph of the timescale of our discoveries.
You can use the function on the right-hand side, y = 0.201x + 0.925 to get an estimate for how long it will take us to discover GS-y ruins site. Note that y is the GS number and x is the number of days after Ram Tah gave us location information. That is,
number of days until discovery of GS-n = (n - 0.925)/0.201 .
The current estimate for the discovery of GS-4 is ~6 days. If we use an exponential fit, the estimate is ~5 days. The estimates are accurate to within at least a factor of 2.
You can use the function on the right-hand side, y = 0.201x + 0.925 to get an estimate for how long it will take us to discover GS-y ruins site. Note that y is the GS number and x is the number of days after Ram Tah gave us location information. That is,
number of days until discovery of GS-n = (n - 0.925)/0.201 .
The current estimate for the discovery of GS-4 is ~6 days. If we use an exponential fit, the estimate is ~5 days. The estimates are accurate to within at least a factor of 2.
This theory would have been logical and I had hoped that first as well but I've been to the duplicate site (2nd discovered site) and the same obelisks are lit up in solo as the ones that lit up in the 1st site.
Widdling the haystack down to 10% it's normal size.
Working on a updated version that can show multiple Orbital paths to see if there's a relation such as BLoop as others have suggested, etc.
That was my original purpose to all this and I cast a wider net with the orbital path.
One of my favorite books of all time...
https://www.amazon.com/Longitude-Genius-Greatest-Scientific-Problem/dp/080271529X
Thanks for this.
I covered the following coordinates without success (and everything inbetween along the parallel orbit path), if anyone wants to check out the area I haven't covered:
-26.496209827847952,128.23328876892361
-27.055640469936304,136.07658908109556
-27.580373915491617,143.88777938813996
-28.05978371413768,151.66979670976505
and those:
-27.4................, - 102.0................
-27.26161366578589,-99.541920213525
-26.7141972865481,-91.48542915209582
-26.6..........., -89.00...................
How about this theory on Site Deja Vu:
FDev needed a way to debug all of the issues with the original site, both the networking issues in multi-player (CTDs, adjudication server errors), and the obelisk reset issues. And suppose these errors did not show up in Beta.
So, create an exact duplicate somewhere else in the live game to serve as a debug tool. Allow FDev players to go in a PG to experience the issues, possibly add debug code or try out fixes in live, but not at the real original site.
Maybe we weren't intended or expected to find it.
Of course, against this theory is: why put it in a system we are told to look in?
It just seems so pointless to have an exact copy with the same decoded data that there must be some other reason for it, other than reasons that otherwise come to mind...
FDev needed a way to debug all of the issues with the original site, both the networking issues in multi-player (CTDs, adjudication server errors), and the obelisk reset issues. And suppose these errors did not show up in Beta.
So, create an exact duplicate somewhere else in the live game to serve as a debug tool. Allow FDev players to go in a PG to experience the issues, possibly add debug code or try out fixes in live, but not at the real original site.
Maybe we weren't intended or expected to find it.
Of course, against this theory is: why put it in a system we are told to look in?
It just seems so pointless to have an exact copy with the same decoded data that there must be some other reason for it, other than reasons that otherwise come to mind...
My guess is it is a certain type of node that makes up the network. Im guessing there is 1 or 2 more of those types of sites.
Has anyone made a finished map with the obelisk sequencing at site 3 for solo mode done on it? The one on the first page isn't right
guys the ruins are reflections of Nebulas in the sky that schould help a lot limiting the space to search.
also it seems the planet must have a moon.
Take a look straight up when you are at a ruin
I guess you mean these, I've been staring up at them most of the day, they are remaining in position over the site despite the passage of time.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=5085956&viewfull=1#post5085956
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