Weird, sometimes I have the impression that 90% of the forum are whiny old men that have never played other game in their lives and that think that anyone that disagrees with them is a poor spoilt millenial
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Weird, sometimes I have the impression that 90% of the forum are whiny old men that have never played other game in their lives and that think that anyone that disagrees with them is a poor spoilt millenial
Weird, sometimes I have the impression that 90% of the forum are whiny old men that have never played other game in their lives and that think that anyone that disagrees with them is a poor spoilt millenial
It's probably the case that 90% of the forum consist of grumpy old men and whiny millennials
It's probably the case that 90% of the forum consist of grumpy old men and whiny millennials
hahaha that explains a lot of the things that go on here
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It's probably the case that 90% of the forum consist of grumpy old men and whiny millennials
Proudly the former. Although I like to think I'm only a part-time grumpy.
Proudly the former. Although I like to think I'm only a part-time grumpy.
Part-time grumpy old man reporting in.
Lately more active, but it all depends on FDEV.
Part-time fan boy also available.
Just coming in to say that if you are respectful; if you stick to the facts, but let them go in the light of new evidence; if you present your arguments honestly and as clear as you can; and if you try to actively understand the opposing views; then you are neither a fanboy, nor a whiny boy, and much less a troll, regardless of your position. Why not being like that instead?
Anything else opposite to that is dishonesty, arrogance, and voluntary ignorance. It is striking how much and how many are willingly acting this way on both sides. I am not crying about this; but it was so paradoxical to see so many people complaining so much about the 'negativity' of my position in their own exaggerated negative way. As if criticism is always negativity, or as if opposing criticism is necessarily positivity per se.
It seems to me that the toxicity around here is not coming from any particular position, but from human nature all over the place.
Anything else opposite to that is dishonesty, arrogance, and voluntary ignorance. It is striking how much and how many are willingly acting this way on both sides. I am not crying about this; but it was so paradoxical to see so many people complaining so much about the 'negativity' of my position in their own exaggerated negative way. As if criticism is always negativity, or as if opposing criticism is necessarily positivity per se.
It seems to me that the toxicity around here is not coming from any particular position, but from human nature all over the place.
If FD sold credits for money, I expect Credits would a lot harder to come by, and loads of EZ credit exploits (Sothis, Log off/log on / Massacre missions) would finally be fixed.
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Ironically polls have consistently shown the most modern gamers (and Elite gamers is particular) are a lot older than expected. The average age of an elite gamer, last time I checked was about 32 iirc.
I also think that the reason why 90% of the owners of elite aren't on this forum is the same reason that 90% of them don;t play the game anymore. They're waiting for Elite to get more gamplay developed.
I've heard this before yet I've never ever seen anyone provide any figures so I decided to go looking....
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I know. Win win in my book. But then i am biased i am in ED for the long haul and happy to take years to get the biggest ships, therefore would not feel hard done by.
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Interesting stuff. I had no idea so took it on good faith from those saying the servers cost a fortune to run
We know FDev rents server from Amazon and they have about 70 of them. Here is the price list: https://aws.amazon.com/gamelift/pricing/
They probably use autoscaling.
to be honest some features, existing and coming soon, seem implemented as a minimum viable product. That's fine, people want to see these big changes sooner than later, so long as they continue to improve them down the road. Case in point more engineer recipes coming with the next update.
The problem is:-
Piracy - Seemingly minimal viable product now for two+ years.
Bounty Hunting - Seemingly minimal viable product now for two+ years.
Mining - Seemingly minimal viable product now for two+ years.
Trading - Seemingly minimal viable product now for two+ years.
Exploration - Seemingly minimal viable product now for two+ years.
I agree. I do understand that they also need to release new features, but these areas are desperate for updates. 2.4 should really pick one and put a lot of effort into making it more interesting. Not totally sure what they can do with mining to be honest, but the rest are really in need of updating.
If people read the DDF then they could realise the things that can be done.
Also, if people claim to use their imagination to play this "game", they also can realise the huge amount of things that could be added.
The amount of features/mechanics that can be added to any activity are unlimited, the problem is people tend to be very encapsulated in what the developer do.
But for any activity to become engaging/entertaining they need to add complexity to that activity, its useless to develop new features with reused simplistic gameplay and thats what FD have done for the last 2 years.
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It looks like the game FD wants to play is minimal viable and trivial.
This is most true.
And this sentence is not mine but it was posted on this forum a long time ago. Unfortunately I did not keep the name.
"Imagining" should not be a driving force in a game. I love Elite, but come on. To anybody looking to buy a game, the selling point shouldn't be "You can imagine yourself doing all these things". It should be "The game mechanics let you do all these things"
https://www.glassdoor.ca/Reviews/Frontier-Developments-Reviews-E372218.htm
Glassdoor reviews on Frontier, written by former employees of Frontier. Very interesting thing to read, and it explains a lot of things. I am not going to share my conclusions, but I wanted to share it with you guys.
Glassdoor reviews on Frontier, written by former employees of Frontier. Very interesting thing to read, and it explains a lot of things. I am not going to share my conclusions, but I wanted to share it with you guys.
better say nothing at all, but it is enlightening.