It's pretty clear that we're looking at an alpha quality product, which needs at least another year of polish. If consumers let EA unpunished for this, all future games will be in this state.
Mass Effect 4
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I love it.
Not as good as ME1 or 2 , but better than ME3 (still like ME3)
its story is intresting with 3 major plot twists and cool charecters.
Peedbee is the first asari I hands down like. she even looks cute. her round face is adorable.
The only things I dont like are left-overs from ME3.
There are 4-5 bad lines in the game with most of them are great. remeber there are 65.000 lines , thats a lot. with most of them being great I think thats awesome.
That being said , I dont like the ketts look but like the story with them (even if it is just oposite reapers)
I love the story behind the remnent
But what I love the most is the conspiracy that links ME2 to ME:A it goes very deep.
All that being said , I dont like the animations.
For the most part its full of the same bugs as ME1 and 2. armour clipping into flesh , guns hold the wrong way. but no way near as bad as ME3 (remember turian ship flying backwards , 360 heads , and all that?)
But the animations get on my nerves. I get into what the chars are saying and then a krogan puts half his arm in his head.
So currently my opinion is this :
The game offers tones of polish in some areas (lore , detail , charecters , biology) but in others it fails (hurts to say that) such as blood colours being wrong all over the place.
Examples :
Static background blood
Blue blood on a human
Red blood on a krogan (it could be that krogan have two blood colours as in ME2 and Andromeda there are cases of both yellow fluid and red)
Red blood on new aliens even if they have blueish
In game
Green blood on everyone after shooting them a while
Asari with red blood
Humans with green blood
Turret that bleeds
Krogan and turian without any
I love the game. I like it more than ME3 , not to say I dont like ME3.
But if the animation bugs dont get fixed , and I dont think they will it might be the only ME game that I will not revist on a yearly bases (My winter celebration is ''mass effect'' and I play all the games in order)
However I will play all its DLC and play the multiplayer until the next game. I just dont know if I will make more than 1 char in the game. however the potential of a quarian DLC/Plot intrests me to no end.
I hope that the hate has not killed the franchise. a world without mass effect is a grim one.
Oh and fun fact manveerheir blocked me on twitter after I defended him. I know that he is just trying to ''trigger'' me , to make us feel how he feels at times but coming from bioware the best at diversity and good will seems off.
I do think its a better game than the witcher , a game series I want to love but just end up not liking at all.
Pros :
-Lore
-Story
-Charecters
-Gameplay
-Enviroments
Cons
-Lack of polish
-Some minor lines are bad , but rare
-Animations. mostly the body ones on my end. arms should not clip into your head lol
-Blood FX errors.
All in all I love it , but wish it got more polish. I do think most of the hate however is wrong and unfair. but the critisim is not. if that makes sense
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But its more underground that you are led to belive.
The initiative is not a secret but its kept quiet and many think they are crazy. they get funding from a important source , someone with a lot of money.
They go there because of thats person motivation , and you will see that (SPOILER) they have sort of , to a point taken over the project to an extent (SPOILER end)
However I dont think you can say MassEffect has bad writing ME1 and 2 have some of the best writing ever , of all media. ME:A is not as good but its still good.
Just remeber that in ME:A most are ex-military and unexperienced but the project is mostly , officialy civilian.
Now true , the gameplay is mostly exploration and shooting in ME games , but the plot and chars are very deep.
Not as good as ME1 or 2 , but better than ME3 (still like ME3)
its story is intresting with 3 major plot twists and cool charecters.
Peedbee is the first asari I hands down like. she even looks cute. her round face is adorable.
The only things I dont like are left-overs from ME3.
There are 4-5 bad lines in the game with most of them are great. remeber there are 65.000 lines , thats a lot. with most of them being great I think thats awesome.
That being said , I dont like the ketts look but like the story with them (even if it is just oposite reapers)
I love the story behind the remnent
But what I love the most is the conspiracy that links ME2 to ME:A it goes very deep.
All that being said , I dont like the animations.
For the most part its full of the same bugs as ME1 and 2. armour clipping into flesh , guns hold the wrong way. but no way near as bad as ME3 (remember turian ship flying backwards , 360 heads , and all that?)
But the animations get on my nerves. I get into what the chars are saying and then a krogan puts half his arm in his head.
So currently my opinion is this :
The game offers tones of polish in some areas (lore , detail , charecters , biology) but in others it fails (hurts to say that) such as blood colours being wrong all over the place.
Examples :
Static background blood
Blue blood on a human
Red blood on a krogan (it could be that krogan have two blood colours as in ME2 and Andromeda there are cases of both yellow fluid and red)
Red blood on new aliens even if they have blueish
In game
Green blood on everyone after shooting them a while
Asari with red blood
Humans with green blood
Turret that bleeds
Krogan and turian without any
I love the game. I like it more than ME3 , not to say I dont like ME3.
But if the animation bugs dont get fixed , and I dont think they will it might be the only ME game that I will not revist on a yearly bases (My winter celebration is ''mass effect'' and I play all the games in order)
However I will play all its DLC and play the multiplayer until the next game. I just dont know if I will make more than 1 char in the game. however the potential of a quarian DLC/Plot intrests me to no end.
I hope that the hate has not killed the franchise. a world without mass effect is a grim one.
Oh and fun fact manveerheir blocked me on twitter after I defended him. I know that he is just trying to ''trigger'' me , to make us feel how he feels at times but coming from bioware the best at diversity and good will seems off.
I do think its a better game than the witcher , a game series I want to love but just end up not liking at all.
Pros :
-Lore
-Story
-Charecters
-Gameplay
-Enviroments
Cons
-Lack of polish
-Some minor lines are bad , but rare
-Animations. mostly the body ones on my end. arms should not clip into your head lol
-Blood FX errors.
All in all I love it , but wish it got more polish. I do think most of the hate however is wrong and unfair. but the critisim is not. if that makes sense
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The reason they send a team to andromeda is all explained. its linked to ME2. but I dont want to spoil.
But its more underground that you are led to belive.
The initiative is not a secret but its kept quiet and many think they are crazy. they get funding from a important source , someone with a lot of money.
They go there because of thats person motivation , and you will see that (SPOILER) they have sort of , to a point taken over the project to an extent (SPOILER end)
However I dont think you can say MassEffect has bad writing ME1 and 2 have some of the best writing ever , of all media. ME:A is not as good but its still good.
Just remeber that in ME:A most are ex-military and unexperienced but the project is mostly , officialy civilian.
Now true , the gameplay is mostly exploration and shooting in ME games , but the plot and chars are very deep.
I guess because its easy to make fun of a game if you can make GIFs of the worst parts and isolate rare examples of bad writing in a vid.
I dont think that most reviews even finished the critical path.
In fact most reviews are full of lore errors and plot errors or even claim things that just dont even happen in the game at all. (like that one that claims the game is about enslaving aliens)
The animations are an issue. but the three major plot twists made me gasp out loud. the game is awesome.
Its a diamond , but its stuck in a rock. you got a rock in your hand but inside there is an awesome diamond
What I cant stand is that games like zelda , MGS get away with bad writing , I even think that TheWitcher's writing is inferior , but I dont like that franchise , I find it heavy handed and reminds me of ''twilight for men''
But if you like it , all the power to you... because I want to love the witcher and I keep trying to go back but just cant enjoy it.
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Or , EA will just look at it and say ''Ah... they just dont like MassEffect. okay then , rush BF instead ! and close bioware !'' and thus we have no MassEffect.
I wish the game had another year on it. I do. but I dont want the MassEffect franchise to die.
And anyway ME:A is not even close to the bottom of the MassEffect quality
That would be MassEffect : Paragon lost (I hate it so much) and the comics... the comics are living plot holes and lore errors. based on the comics you can see the wards from the council chambers lol
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Works fer a certain subset of open players here...just sayin...
Exactly how much have you played through? Going by that, Im guessing ye haven't actually played it through yet and ye seem stuck on things like dialogue and animations that have very little to do with the actual gameplay aspects. Tried multiplayer yet? How does it compare with me3 multiplayer? Have ye levelled up all yer biotics yet?
Regardless...Im having fun no matter what the haters claim and gameplay is way more important than a few graphics sins which is why I can walk away from here so easily. This game has great looks but shallow gameplay, and that's being kind.
Each to their own I guess...enjoy 2.3 multipew, I'll check in to see if 2.4 is the white rabbit outta the hat...cya ^
Sorry.Please stop it, you're making me seriously consider buying it.
Give it some time. maybe a year and see if its been fixed. it will be there for you if it has.
Only the animations of course can be fixed.
Now of course ''my face is tierd'' will be there. but that NPC speaks like that all the time. I just assumed she was a bit crazy and outright over her head in work.
Its no way near as good as the classic mass effect. but better than ME3 IMO.
But I am a ''fan'' that alters my opinion.
I mean I fanboyed because they fixed the lore error about the mako being in the first contact war , by claiming its just a varient of a long lasting class
If I were fixated on franchises, I would still get licensed Star Wars games and would have completely ignored Mass Effect in 2007 for not being another KOTOR.
Also "close bioware" has absolutely no meaning, because EA is making these games and slapping their brands on anything. Remember this mobile game called "Dungeon Keeper"?
Thats a very strange response. Why are you so upset when people prefer story telling and dialogue over multiplay and action? What has ED to do with it? Why do you call other people 'haters', you're not a 15-year old Katy Perry fangirl are you? I dont see how 'lvl ing all biotics' improve a story, or why I should care about multiplayer in what used to be a singleplay adventure.
Privata actually gave a sane response, but calling people a 'hater' and turning it into 'my game is better than yours' is so deeply infantile, disappointing response from you.
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Actually just bought it. We'll see if it growns on me.
Got all ME novels as well, played the trilogy a bunch of times from start to finish, so guess I am a fan too. Seriously annoyed by the first few hours of the trial, but we'll see. Will start from scratch (didnt like the inability to create your own character, and I hadnt installed my new hardware yet so it ran like garbage).
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I find it really strange that fans of a game like ED can be so critical of MEA, considering the state ED is in much of the time. There is nothing game breaking about ME:A at all, it's on par with every other title in the series. The backlash directed at it is utterly astounding.
The story and dialogue isn't great, but it never has been! The OT was riddled with wooden dialogue and story was shizophrenic at best.
The story and dialogue isn't great, but it never has been! The OT was riddled with wooden dialogue and story was shizophrenic at best.
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Its exactly same horde mode as in ME3 just lil more chaotic and difficult, but thanks to fun combat mechanics I quite enjoy MP in Andromeda - but I did not bought ME game for MP or combat but for characters and story, which did not impressed me like in other ME games so far.
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Just to clarify: I'm not a fan of ED:H in its current state. I liked the first Mass Effect by the time it came out.
That never excuses a 2017 AAA product. You can't deliver some $9.99 indie experience and then ask 60-80 bucks for it. Whatever shortcomings the first 2007 game had: We are now a decade later and video games successfully moved past that. Many problems game development struggled a decade ago are solved and if your product still has them (because it simply is unfinished), then this is going to be reflected in reviews.
Another thing that really bothers me with the PC version is the EA selling an Origin download code inside a box. At least Steam allows you to create an official Disc backup (equal to preloads and printed Steam installers) for reinstalling without downloading 50+ GB again. Origin offers none of that functionality.
My opinion is that considering its poor sub par quality this game should perform poorly.
Not (or postponing) buying it sends a message to EA/Bioware that they must step up if they want our money.
It tells them that their customers do not buy anything that is branded Mass Effect, no matter the quality.
I do believe EA very well knows they only have themselves to blame if MEA flops.
They know people are interested in Mass Effect, but many are just not interested in any Mass Effect, no matter what...
I do not think it will flop though. There are enough people who will buy it anyhow.
But even though the consequence of me and other ME fans not buying this game will result in there not going to be a next ME, then that is not my concern nor is it my responsibility.
I simply do not buy games I think are not worth it. I think MEA is not worth it in the condition it is in. I wouldn't play it if I got it for free.
If the game would have been of sufficient quality EA would have been able to sell me the collectors edition and other stuff on top of that.
Not so now.
MassEffect is the apex of good video game story telling in my opinion.
Yes the original trilogy had some bad lines , andromeda does too.
But they are both epic and tell an amazing story with the deepest charecters I have ever seen
That being said I dont understand the backlash either.
All the issues in terms of animations are in ME3 as well. in ME3 we had a turian ship fly backwards
If you want bad writing in MassEffect , its found in MassEffect : Paragon lost. I hate that ''movie'' I felt sick after watching it. its the only time I felt like that after whatching a movie
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A world without mass effect... thats not something I want.
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I love the game. but I am scared that this might be the end of MassEffect.
The only flaw with it are animation issues but thats it
Then there is nothing more to say. It's your loss. Or not. It's probably going to be my GOTY even with the other great releases of 2017. Andromeda is simply very close to my vision of what a space game should be (minus the bugs).
Pretty much this, except I would add on the list of flaws the many bugs, and that the galaxy map navigation is a chore.
Me neither, especially since the Star Wars franchise has been such a let down in the last decade or more as far as games are concerned.
Mass Effect was a wonderful replacement for Star Wars gaming.
I played all previous ME game three times from beginning to end and I am already thinking about starting all over again for a fourth time as ME Andromeda is such a let down.
I'd rather have no Mass Effect at all than inferior Mass Effect (my personal opnion).
That is why I choose to avoid the latest installment.
I am fine with other people being able to enjoy it in its current state. I just can't.
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Hopefully a patch or two will sort a lot out in terms of the cosmetic stuff soon. If its not soon it's no game breaker for me. Aside from the "my face is tired" woman the rest of the facials don't bother me at all. There is a good solid game here from the point of view of story, writing, voice acting, gameplay, and combat.
I was very disappointed to read the initial views from media I normally trust..so much so I hovered over that refund button more than once. I stuck with it and I'm glad, really glad. But there it is I'm enjoying it immensely. It's not game of the decade but it's a great entry into what hopefully is another series of games in this universe.
You guys with concerns and doubts about this from reading the media and watching the very very selective videos of bugs probably will never be convinced to play it. Maybe a Xmas sale or something for you guys.
I was very disappointed to read the initial views from media I normally trust..so much so I hovered over that refund button more than once. I stuck with it and I'm glad, really glad. But there it is I'm enjoying it immensely. It's not game of the decade but it's a great entry into what hopefully is another series of games in this universe.
You guys with concerns and doubts about this from reading the media and watching the very very selective videos of bugs probably will never be convinced to play it. Maybe a Xmas sale or something for you guys.
If only everyone was as nice and civilised. on the internet enjoying the game seems like a crime.
Maybe I just have bad taste , as I have been a fan of the new StarWars canon , as I felt that the EU was messing it up (the expanded universe , not the European union)
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I assumed ''my face is tierd'' was to show that the women is over working and way over her head. that she was at the breaking point.
No I do not believe it has anything to do with bad or good taste.
I am not even sure something like 'good or bad taste' exists at all.
We all have thresholds for what we feel is acceptable and it varies widely among people for all kinds of reasons, and is not even consistent in one and the same person.
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