Dark side of planets still not dark

Didn't read the whole thread, but I'll say this.

I've been to places where there are literally no lights at all. The ambient light just from the stars (no moon) was way more than enough to read a book by. Humans we're distinguishable at roughly 1 km or farther.

I figure the in game light for the dark sides of planets is perfectly reasonable.
 
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Didn't read the whole thread, but I'll say this.

I've been to places where there are literally no lights at all. The ambient light just from the stars (no moon) was way more than enough to read a book by. Humans we're distinguishable at roughly 1 km or farther.

I figure the in game light for the dark sides of planets is perfectly reasonable.

Yeah? Nooo...
I regularly go to dark sites on new moon and I can barely see my hand in front of my face. I find everything by touch. The stars are beautiful, though.

I can tell you with 100% accuracy that you can't read a book with starlight. Unless you have 12" lenses confront of your eyes..
 
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Yeah? Nooo...
I regularly go to dark sites on new moon and I can barely see my hand in front of my face. I find everything by touch. The stars are beautiful, though.

I can tell you with 100% accuracy that you can't read a book with starlight. Unless you have 12" lenses confront of your eyes..

Ok. I'm lying.

How are your eyes?
 
Pink Floyd, Dark Side Of The Moon Lyrics:

Brain Damage
(Waters) 3:50

The lunatic is on the grass.
The lunatic is on the grass.
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs.
Got to keep the loonies on the path.

The lunatic is in the hall.
The lunatics are in my hall.
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more.

And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

The lunatic is in my head.
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane.
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me.

And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear.
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

"I can't think of anything to say except...
I think it's marvelous! HaHaHa!"

Eclipse
(Waters) 2:04

All that you touch
All that you see
All that you taste
All you feel.
All that you love
All that you hate
All you distrust
All you save.
All that you give
All that you deal
All that you buy,
beg, borrow or steal.
All you create
All you destroy
All that you do
All that you say.
All that you eat
And everyone you meet
All that you slight
And everyone you fight.
All that is now
All that is gone
All that's to come
and everything under the sun is in tune
but the sun is eclipsed by the moon.

"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."

 
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Pink Floyd, Dark Side Of The Moon Lyrics:

Brain Damage
(Waters) 3:50

The lunatic is on the grass.
The lunatic is on the grass.
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs.
Got to keep the loonies on the path.

The lunatic is in the hall.
The lunatics are in my hall.
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more.

And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

The lunatic is in my head.
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane.
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me.

And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear.
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

"I can't think of anything to say except...
I think it's marvelous! HaHaHa!"

Eclipse
(Waters) 2:04

All that you touch
All that you see
All that you taste
All you feel.
All that you love
All that you hate
All you distrust
All you save.
All that you give
All that you deal
All that you buy,
beg, borrow or steal.
All you create
All you destroy
All that you do
All that you say.
All that you eat
And everyone you meet
All that you slight
And everyone you fight.
All that is now
All that is gone
All that's to come
and everything under the sun is in tune
but the sun is eclipsed by the moon.

"There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."


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Care to give me an example or two? I'm looking desperately for such games but as yet to no avail. I love them since the very first version of Bard's Tale (on C64!) where you would be terribly screwed if too deep into a dungeon and out of torches. Couldn't find similar implementation of darkness in later games though. Seems not that popular?

Doom 3 immediately comes to mind.

Amnesia: The Dark Descent is super dark, and you have limited oil in your lamp. The dark actually hurts you by driving you insane. Having your lamp out stops the effect. Lighting torches and candles does too, but you need tinder boxes, and they are limited.

Lots of horror games, actually.

Night time in the S.T.A.L.K.E.R games is super dark.
 
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Thanks for that list. Any more recent titles you're aware of, preferably not something with an explicit horror theme? You know, one of the reasons people usually refuse true darkness in games is because they don't like horror. I think the horror genre is a niche in its own and I doubt turning ED into that direction would be a good advice (from FD's financial point of view). ;)

Night time in DayZ can be extremely dark if you turn gamma down
 
The Chronicles of Riddick games (Escape from Butcher Bay and Dark Athena) are really dark, too. They're like that to make use of his night vision.
 
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Night time in DayZ can be extremely dark if you turn gamma down

Night time can be extremely dark in any game if you turn brightness down.

If you want you can have a completely black screen in ED!
:)

Or just turn off your monitor...
:D
 
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Night time can be extremely dark in any game if you turn brightness down.

If you want you can have a completely black screen in ED!
:)

Or just turn off your monitor...
:D

Just saying that night in DayZ is dark. Very dark. It's extremely stressful on hardcore (1st person only) servers. Even with gamma up, it's dark.
 
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Thanks for that list. Any more recent titles you're aware of, preferably not something with an explicit horror theme? You know, one of the reasons people usually refuse true darkness in games is because they don't like horror. I think the horror genre is a niche in its own and I doubt turning ED into that direction would be a good advice (from FD's financial point of view). ;)

Arma 3 , no moonlight and you cant see a thing without nightvision or a torch.
 
So your ships cockpit glass has the ability to tint/darken a star but you don't think it has the ability to lighten darker places?
 
Not to get too technical, but keep in mind that they can't make the game as dark as we'd like simply because most people still use cheap TN panel monitors, which crush blacks and makes the shades look like pixelated bands as they fail to blend together. If you want the game to look dark and have similar colors blend well into each other, get a high quality 10-bit color IPS display.

Here's a handy FAQ to help get you started:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/faq.htm
 
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