Never First Discovered, But...

[Stigbob]

I've given you too much rep for your informative player-blocking posts. Otherwise it would be another +1 for this gem, and particularly for the obscure Spock reference to Khan's flawed tactics in the Battle of the Mutara Nebula: "He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking". Kirk command response: "All stop. Z minus 10,000 metres."

You get rep for getting it.

 

[CMDR ANCALAGON]

Oh God, someone whipped out the "F" word...

As usual, the word "fair" is used in context of a concept that is absolutely ridiculous and illogical. Essentially, someone putting forth the idea that it is wrong if anyone plays the game before anyone else.

One irony being, that if the powers that be were to respond to this idea and say: "right! In order to recitfy this wrong, effective immediately, all players will be locked out of the game and all progress wiped. In 30 days, the system will go-live again and will be forever locked for new players", I'm sure the very same person that filed the complaint will be screaming "but that's not fair!!"


Whhhaaaa waaaaa....

 

[Factabulous]

Here's an undiscovered system for you, I didn't scan anything: Prua Phoe VQ-Z b3-1

Bit further out than you wanted, but it's all yours. Well, you & the rest of the forum - best hurry o7

Edit: More:

• Prua Phoe XW-X b4-4
• Prua Phoe BD-W b5-4
• Prua Phoe BZ-X c2-0

Ok, bored with this - certain there are at least 10 more unexplored systems

 

[IndigoWyrd]

I've quite a few First Discoveries to my name now, and I keep finding them. You just have to break away from the beaten path, go nowhere interesting and find your own interesting things.

 

[knowles2]

I picked up two occupied escape pods, and returned them safely to the bubble.

Those should have been massive plot hooks.

Unlock a system, engineering mod. Or, a bounty hunter chasing you.

this needs to be added to the game.

 

[VR StarLightPL]

This year when I still cared to log in I got my name on a two planets just hops away from Sothis. There apparently are some "undiscovered" planets around the bubble or fringes of it. Usually they are undiscovered because you have to fly looong time to get to them and they carry no real monetary value. On my 5kLy pilgrimage to Jellyfish Nebula for that nutjob Palin, I discovered several systems and planets. Of course a nebula is a popular destination, and Asp with 50Ly range is a popular explorer's choice so more often than not I found myself on someone's else trail. What I did then was alter course a bit to "desynchronise" with that.

So yeah, Elite has a lot of problems, but OP accusation isn't one of them.

 

[Faybs]

I decided to check out the far side of Barnard's loop for Palin's 5000LY trip, and got quite a few first discoveries without even trying. Just took a weekend while listening to a podcast. It really isn't that hard, all it takes is perseverance. If you want annoying grind, go get Qwent's modular terminals.

 

[Zeeman]

It seems that I am reduced to scanning asteroid belts, and being the first to scan iceballs into EDDN.

Thanks for the great placeholder!

Here's what you do. Point ship in random direction (though towards the Southern, Eastern or Western edges is probably slightly better). Plot 1000LY course. Buckyball this part. When you got there - plot another 1000LY in the same direction, now, buckyball until you find untagged stuff. I usually start finding untagged stuff about 800LY form Sol.

Oh, and try going above or below the plane a few hundred lightyears. It really helps.

If you're headed to a some sort of landmark, for heavens sake don't go there in a straight line - that's what everyone else did. do a "boomerang" shaped path.

Z...

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Here's what you do. Point ship in random direction (though towards the Southern, Eastern or Western edges is probably slightly better). Plot 1000LY course. Buckyball this part. When you got there - plot another 1000LY in the same direction, now, buckyball until you find untagged stuff. I usually start finding untagged stuff about 800LY form Sol.

Oh, and try going above or below the plane a few hundred lightyears. It really helps.

If you're headed to a some sort of landmark, for heavens sake don't go there in a straight line - that's what everyone else did. do a "boomerang" shaped path.

Z...

Zee, I have done curved arcs that would put Spirograph's to shame, both vertical and horizontal. I've crosscut more than This Old House has. I've gone to where the stars run out, above and below. I've used two D20's! Six D6's (Helm! New course 12 mark 7, prepare crouton topedoes!) Wheee for random directions!

What does Kirk say when Enterprise comes up behind Reliant? "Look sharp!" to the screen. Bingo! 12 o'clock.

How did he know to go *exactly* 10 megameters?
These guys are great artists, fairly good coders, but lousy game masters.

 

[GJ51]

Sorry OP, but finding first discovered stuff really isn't a big deal in the age of the 50LY+jump range ships of which there are several.

Like Zeeman says, just beeline 1KLY in a random direction and you should start seeing partly scanned systems sometime after 500LY from Sol depending on your vector and likewise pristine systems sometime after 1KLY. At 50LY per jump we're only talking about 20 mins to get to virgin scans.

Avoid any travel along X,Y, or Z = 0 to avoid the common pathways.

I seem to head out to the black before the next beta starts and then return just before the next release. If you have beta access you can always drop in there for some bubble fun between the exploration and then have an idea what you want to do when the next release drops.

HTH

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Sorry OP, but finding first discovered stuff really isn't a big deal in the age of the 50LY+jump range ships of which there are several.

Like Zeeman says, just beeline 1KLY in a random direction and you should start seeing partly scanned systems sometime after 500LY from Sol depending on your vector and likewise pristine systems sometime after 1KLY. At 50LY per jump we're only talking about 20 mins to get to virgin scans.

Avoid any travel along X,Y, or Z = 0 to avoid the common pathways.

I seem to head out to the black before the next beta starts and then return just before the next release. If you have beta access you can always drop in there for some bubble fun between the exploration and then have an idea what you want to do when the next release drops.

HTH

Thanks. I did that with the last beta, and the exploration data was stale. Ah, well. Good idea, in any case.

 

[Red Anders]

Zee, I have done curved arcs that would put Spirograph's to shame, both vertical and horizontal. I've crosscut more than This Old House has. I've gone to where the stars run out, above and below. I've used two D20's! Six D6's (Helm! New course 12 mark 7, prepare crouton topedoes!) Wheee for random directions!

What does Kirk say when Enterprise comes up behind Reliant? "Look sharp!" to the screen. Bingo! 12 o'clock.

How did he know to go *exactly* 10 megameters?
These guys are great artists, fairly good coders, but lousy game masters.

What exactly are they supposed to do about the fact the game has been out for over two and a half years now, which is the one and only reason that a lot of systems near the bubble have been explored? Am I missing some level of parody in this thread or are you seriously saying that you can't find anything undiscovered?

My last but one trip out (about four months ago) I tagged my first system less than 650LY away from Sol. Bear in mind here that at 250LY away from Sol you're still in the bubble. There's no trick to it - look at the galaxy, look at all the really obvious points of interest around you, fly somewhere else. I tagged an actual real catalogued star about six months back (so about two years after the game's release) by doing just that.

 

[Ralph Vargr]

What exactly are they supposed to do about the fact the game has been out for over two and a half years now, which is the one and only reason that a lot of systems near the bubble have been explored? Am I missing some level of parody in this thread or are you seriously saying that you can't find anything undiscovered?

My last but one trip out (about four months ago) I tagged my first system less than 650LY away from Sol. Bear in mind here that at 250LY away from Sol you're still in the bubble. There's no trick to it - look at the galaxy, look at all the really obvious points of interest around you, fly somewhere else. I tagged an actual real catalogued star about six months back (so about two years after the game's release) by doing just that.

Relax, Mr. Lizard. Chalk it up to a bad day about 1K out, trying to verify some stuff (old discoveries, far settlements, etc.).

That the game has been out for nearly three years is a strong point for both the exploration career to be filled out, and to give players new galaxies. The system uses procedural generation. I would pay for a galaxy, and server space, for my own galaxy, using my private group. I think they would not like the fragmentation of the player base, though. $100 USD, and a sub? Yes, sir!

Imagine Mobius with it's own galaxy, and the cries from the combat players, and background shapers.

 

[Faybs]

Chalk it up to a bad day about 1K out, trying to verify some stuff (old discoveries, far settlements, etc.).

There's your problem - 1KLY out of the bubble isn't enough, especially now that hundreds of people are doing systematic searches for alien sites, which are at about that distance. You really need to go at least 3KLY out of the bubble and then you'll start seeing undiscovered systems. An engineered DBX (20% off in Wolf 406) will easily jump over 45LY in one go. That's just 60-70 jumps out.

 

[Ralph Vargr]

There's your problem - 1KLY out of the bubble isn't enough, especially now that hundreds of people are doing systematic searches for alien sites, which are at about that distance. You really need to go at least 3KLY out of the bubble and then you'll start seeing undiscovered systems. An engineered DBX (20% off in Wolf 406) will easily jump over 45LY in one go. That's just 60-70 jumps out.

Yes, I can drive from Calais, Maine, to San Diego California, If I want to. Or from Cape Juan De Fuca WA, to Key West FL (already done Key West). And, do a writeup on Google on every eating establishment that has frontage on that route.

Is that what it takes to please the "only 1% of the Galaxy has been explored crowd"? Some of us work for a living, are old, tired, in constant pain (football and military), and simply want a rewarding experience. Filling out exploration content would help, not the number of jumps, objects, or First Discoveries.

Bluntly, you have to be a time-rich OCD maniac to meet the forum's expectations.

This old dog is clocking in for work Monday morning, by going to bed, now.

Bye.

Mods, you can close the thread as a rant. Cue Jenner, and Jan Brewer.

 

[Faybs]

Yes, I can drive from Calais, Maine, to San Diego California, If I want to. Or from Cape Juan De Fuca WA, to Key West FL (already done Key West). And, do a writeup on Google on every eating establishment that has frontage on that route.

Is that what it takes to please the "only 1% of the Galaxy has been explored crowd"? Some of us work for a living, are old, tired, in constant pain (football and military), and simply want a rewarding experience. Filling out exploration content would help, not the number of jumps, objects, or First Discoveries.

Bluntly, you have to be a time-rich OCD maniac to meet the forum's expectations.

This old dog is clocking in for work Monday morning, by going to bed, now.

Bye.

Mods, you can close the thread as a rant. Cue Jenner, and Jan Brewer.

Well, I don't know what to say... ED as a whole requires a large time commitment from players, even a quick delivery mission can take 20 minutes from the time you pick it up until the time you cash it in, and it's not uncommon for people to vanish in the black for weeks at a time. Contrast this to other games that have explicit time saving mechanics, like fast travel in many RPGs. Maybe ED isn't the game for you?

 

[stormyuk]

It seems that I am reduced to scanning asteroid belts, and being the first to scan iceballs into EDDN.

Thanks for the great placeholder!

I am new boy on PS4. Travelled about 2500ly from Sol. Full system with an earthlike couple of weeks ago. They are out there.

 

[Lestat]

99% of my of my exploration data was unexplored systems. But like GJ51 said to enjoy the benefit is taking an unconventional route.

 

[imski]

Go to one of the permit locked areas.

Wait till 2.4 is live then see if you can get in. Guaranteed undiscovereds in there.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

From what i read OP, you are basically saying you want to get first discovered, but not willing to travel more than about 1000 LY. That ship sailed a lot time ago. Yeah, if you get lucky, you can find something undiscovered in about that range, but with ever passing day the chance gets smaller and smaller.

And no idea why you are complaining about time required and the game not being for casuals in relation to exploration. Exploration is one of the most laid back aspects of the game. You just pick a direction and fly. Take as long or as little time as you want. No need to rush.

As others have said, pick a good direction and you'll be getting undiscovereds within 2000 LY (funny to think in a few years we might be telling new explorers they need to travel 3000 LY ), which in a normal exploration ship will take you 2 hours tops.

Exploration is totally casual.