Time to remove BGS exploits
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His post got moved to the RP forum where it belonged, that’s part of the whole ‘pretend’ thing. You should see some of my Federation News Network articles, they’re great propaganda. It adds a level of depth to the game for our people. I haven’t posted them here because operational silence, and we really don’t want something in character to spin out of control.
I don’t call you guys exploiters, you know the BGS well and run it like grand master chess players. In character you’re all filthy cheating Alliance thugs, but you’re all good people out of the game. Hell, I even still listen to Obsidian Ant, and I’m subscribed to DNA Decay.
However. I think we all agree that there are parts of the BGS that are ‘exploit-ish’. It’s a big part of the whole messed up design, where it gives priority to the brand new pilot in his cobra. We’re both using the mechanics however, because that’s how you ‘play’ right now. If you think we’re calling you exploiters when we do the same thing? I dunno. I think you’re taking it wrong.
Often I find it's easier just to ignore the complaints of those with an ulterior motive for making them. [up]
They would do it with or without player minor factions (PMF). Without PMFs they would just use a standard faction and do the same thing.
Ironically, Xander, the past month or so has turned me into a murderer. Until, well, about 6-7 weeks ago, we used murder so rarely, that I honestly wasn't very good at it. After 3 weeks of absorbing EDF murder, we started ourselves, and during the Ross 128 war hit my stride. Thank you, for opening a new area of the game for me to try to git gud in!
As far as the tone of discussion goes, we hoped, of course, when we originally made the announcement of the capture of Ross 128, that someone would come play with us. We thank you for that. If this had all just fizzled out with a yawn (like some other AEDC achievements have), that would have been a missed chance for all the amazing emergent content this has brought us all.
wel that does make sens, except for the last part, it not about thinking we're being called exploiters.
Have you read that post of your man T in that (unrelated)bug report. i't quite literal.
He seems pretty angry, perhaps it would do him good if you explain your point of view to him.
I agree. But... You’ll note the difference between ‘ignoring’ someone and posting passive-aggressive forum insults.
You’re a good guy Stealthie, I don’t think anyone else here has made me laugh as hard as your ‘stories for your entertainment’.
Is this really a thing? I'm in one of the bigger player-factions, and I'm specifically in a squadron and wing with a focus on pushing our BGS faction...
And never once have I been told to drop off exploration or bonds one at a time...
I don't think this is a moral stand (it's in the game and not a cheat), soooooo are you sure that dropping off one at a time really boosts the output?
Better
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Because that's the only time playing Space Politics is actually fun.
Xander, sometimes I really do wonder whether you're part of a different group. Or maybe your time is limited that you miss the actions of your higher ups.
Either way, this nature of the BGS is something that we have reported repeatedly, in its totality (aka without ignoring murder), alongside other groups adept at the BGS and surely not just a few days after we lost a war.
And your articles make me angry in character, so I guess you're doing a good job as well. [big grin]
Naming and Shaming.
In times of being left alone, you really don't need to. It's when you have other players competing against your interests where things tend to require a bit more extreme measures, especially if they are using one of those measures against you to begin with.
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100% sure. Without revealing too much we have used this to great effect in multiple occasions involving opposing PMF. This is not a surprise to those who have a full grasp on the BGS.
Maybe it is a moral stand on our part, because I just asked about it and got told that's not something we do. TIL, I guess.
Thanks for the infodump.
I’m pretty sure he was three or four sheets to the wind lit up when he did that. Fact is you guys can snap your fingers and get help from six different Alliance groups, and that rankles on a few of us.
The Federation simply doesn’t have any other BGS PG’s to stand up and fight for their own territory. We’re sort of an easy target in that regard.
PS: So you guys ARE reading our forums! Naughty naughty! Haha! I’m glad to have a larger audience, even if they are Alliance spies.
This word lies i don't understand what you mean,do you have any proof of a lie... Did i hit a nerve by me saying that their are those who hind behind PG and solo walls and take advantage of know exploits
well i think it just means op cant do bgs without thinking combat should beat everything. thats all it sounds like.
you sell explo data PAGES at a time. or you will be there forever. anyone who goes out of the bubble further than 5k will probably have various engineers they want to bump up as well as sell data other places for various reasons. why should real explorers get neutred because OP cant learn to BGS?
you sell explo data PAGES at a time. or you will be there forever. anyone who goes out of the bubble further than 5k will probably have various engineers they want to bump up as well as sell data other places for various reasons. why should real explorers get neutred because OP cant learn to BGS?
Nah, that's the bug report forums. It has got removed now, due to being off topic I guess, but we live in the age where nothing gets truly lost. As much as I'd love to have an insight in your heads.
Also...six is a bit of an exaggeration, we really didn't have many more numbers than you do. And we know you had help from FRC and AA because we met them on the field and finding out who represents who is fairly easy with Inara nowadays.
However, don't underestimate how hard a single Alliance player can go. It is always more than double than you can imagine.
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There’s no shame in asking for help in a war against dozens of players from across the whole Alliance, including a famous mercenary PG.
The only ‘shame’ is that we never received any of such help from the largely PP focused Federation. Other than a few Adle’s Armada guys that pop in now and then for PVP action, it’s basically just the EDF. We’re doing pretty well for such a small group given the odds.
Only thing I've seen from all of this is this :
The EDF fought alone against an alliance faction that called in nearly every player they could..... and only just lost, and they've fought the alliance to a standstill in
every other contested system. and thats with alliance attacks on EDF space
and we did it in open too...Something your guys were very noticable in not being in
Bill
BTW you had to get federal rank to get the 128 permit...... as did everyone who fought against the federation...
The EDF fought alone against an alliance faction that called in nearly every player they could..... and only just lost, and they've fought the alliance to a standstill in
every other contested system. and thats with alliance attacks on EDF space
and we did it in open too...Something your guys were very noticable in not being in
Bill
BTW you had to get federal rank to get the 128 permit...... as did everyone who fought against the federation...
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