We're all just bickering about a trivial video game, no formal legal body is ever going to touch any of this rubbish with someone elses ten foot stick.
PvP An Investigation Into Frontier's Actions on Combat Logging, Part 2
- Thread starter Rinzler o7o7o7
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We're all just bickering about a trivial video game, no formal legal body is ever going to touch any of this rubbish with someone elses ten foot stick.
This forum itself is a representation of loud minorities. The majority of ED's playerbase are happily out there playing the game and take no notice of the forums, as is the case with the majority of every game's playerbase. So when you say that the side you disagree with is the unimportant minority keep in mind that your arguements are also belonging to a minority of its very own.
The limitations in the multi-player aspects of the game have nothing to do with PvP problems such as ganking. It is the huge disparity between PvP and PvE builds and further compounded by the RNGineers that causes the primary issues people have with PvP. Basically combat balance in this game is all over the place. It's more keenly felt in PvP but it also exists in PvE as well, especially with Engineering involved.
And as others have pointed out the effects of combat logging are not confined to the realms of PvP. You can completely destroy a controlling faction's influence via the BGS through going on a security ship killing spree. A process entirely involving NPCs. FD has promised to buff security responses so this is no longer such a loophole-like automatic iWin button in the BGS. What do you think will happen when players just combat log on these overwhelming security NPC responses? FD's attempt to balance their PvE BGS game will be completely negated.
Please tell me again how removing one's self from the risks and consequences of playing the game (via combat logging) doesn't ruin the game?
Open is for interacting with other players, not necessarilly for PvP but you must be prepared for PvP to happen. Why go into Open unprepared for the risks involved and then cheat your way out of the consequences of your decision?
There is a fair way of implementing punitive measures for logging during combat, it's just that FD haven't employed them. How about if your internet connection drops during combat more than once within 2-3 weeks then your ship is registered as exploded and you can expect a rebuy on your next log in. That sounds relatively fair to me. The limit resets every 2-3 weeks. It's not perfect but at least it will cut down on rampant frequent abuses for either BGS or PvP trolling purposes.
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I may be coward it's just a game. But it's legal to leave the game whenever I want in 15 seconds and you can do nothing about it. If you are good in combat you should be abble to destroy my ship in 15 seconds otherwise git gud
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Objection your majesty, this witness appears to be a monkey in an ill fitting helmet.
The ability of your car to travel over 50 mph above the speed limit is not part of the rules of the highway either, but you can be darned sure the government can tell you that you can't do it on an interstate. Your argument is inapplicable, the creator of a service may absolutely decide how it can or can't be used. If you don't like the rules, you take your hardware elsewhere.
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A may be coward it's just a game. But it's legal to leave the game whenever I want and you can do nothing about it
But if you don't use the in-game method (the log out menu), then you might* be breaking the contract you made with FDev.
*) ask 3 real lawyers (not people having fun on a forum) and you will probably get 6 opinions. Add wine or whisky and you will keep the lawyers entertained for an evening and get 9 opinions, 12 legal strategies and 3 drunken lawyers.
They did do something, they looked at the dodgy source of the fake report and ignored it. Anything else would have been a waste of support resources.
Yes but first devs must have proof for this right?
You can't legally take a player to court unless they've seriously compromised your game like stealing other people's private info through it or sending viruses and malware through your game's code. Crazy stuff like that. No game dev has ever taken a player to court over hacking their game to give themselves god mode or the like because it would be a pointless waste of time and money when they could simply just ban their account and be done with it.
That is what this is about ultimately - banning or otherwise punishing players who abuse exploits in your game, as is the developers right to do at their own discretion. The EULA is primarily a bunch of legalise designed to cover the IP creator's backside should they ever need to. It has no bearing on how, why and when the developer can dish out punitive measures against players who break their terms of service, it merely allows for them to have the right to protect themselves and their IP.
To be honest I'm here just for laugh. When I see topics like this about legal gameplay write by people from SDC I can't stop laughing
I may be coward it's just a game. But it's legal to leave the game whenever I want in 15 seconds and you can do nothing about it. If you are good in combat you should be abble to destroy my ship in 15 seconds otherwise git gud
Oh yeah, 15 seconds is easily long enough. Which is why we are talking abut CLogging, something totally different. You have grasped that now?
To be honest I'm here just for laugh. When I see topics like this about legal gameplay write by people from SDC I can't stop laughing
You're here to show yourself up, since that's all you've done. Will make a note of your name in case you change your pic so I know never to lend your words weight.
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I stand corrected. Seems it is entirely at the individual developers discretion what to do ... and their mercy
That was a bit different they were uploading how to video's of cheating IIRC, and they only got taken to court after refusing to remove the offending video's.
'interfere with the experience of other users' this would include newbie killers, or anybody else that just wishes to trade or explore for example. There is nothing to say that because a player plays in pvp, that is giving an express or implied permission to attack them
Your posting about this, using a legitimate issue as an excuse to have a go at the developers does undermine the effort others put into actually solving these kind of problems though.
As you have read there are people who actively do not want this issue to be addressed because of your association with it.
How do you know they did do something ??? Oh wait assumptions as usual.
Those were not fake reports btw.
They did nothing and it is a fact. We provided video evidence and : 0 views, 0 warning.
If only for once you knew what you were talking about... sigh