Anyone else trying to G5 everything before the change?

Mengy

Mengy
Viking84 said:
I will be spending the next few weeks attempting to G5 absolutely everything I can, locking down my builds as much as possible, and just doing a single G5 roll for my chosen mod. It will save me an INSANE amount of work later.
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Yep, me too. The math supports this being the best plan of action, you effectively avoid Sandro's new grind wall while starting out in the new system at a great place to obtain some very nice G5 mods.

Frontier got it so close with the revamp but royally fracked the pooch with the huge new grind wall. I guess the true goal of the revamp was to just make the whole thing more time consuming for the majority of players. Boggles my mind.
 

Dutchman141

Dutchman141
Got a C5 fsd to G5 range and a C6 thruster to G5 Dirty Drive today, purely for the Chieftain.
Gonna do some more stuff before the release of Beyond.
 

Lightspeed

Lightspeed
All Sandro needs to do is dial back on the need to progress one step at a time. Keep the new system of display and upgrades, but return to the rep system with the engineer. So, if you reach level 4 with the engineer, you can use his/her level 4 mods on anything he/she offers anywhere. And so for level 5, etc.

Otherwise, with a ship with (say 4 lasers and 4 machine cannons) we will be forever progressing each weapon from 1 to 5. Or is that his idea?

Looks like I posted this in the wrong section :rolleyes:, but it means, yes, I am running around like a mad thing leveling up my ships as best I can before the change [mad]
 
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Chaparral

Chaparral
G5 mod mania engaged. Fully G5 on my primary account, working to that end on my alt. Just saw Bob Lighthouse' comment about the Chieftain. Dang good idea there.
 

GG7

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All my ships are G5ed and A rated (14 of them) I also have several high rolled (Overspeced) A grade FSDs of various classes in storage as well as a few power plants and power distributors. (will be dropping a lot of these into a couple of Chieftains)

I made all this stuff long before the changes were announced though. And since I don't share the doom and gloom opinion/predictions of how the new system is going to work, I would not have rushed to do all this ahead of the 3.0 release, outside of FSD drives since I do prefer +52% or higher overspecs on all my ship's FSD drives. (And we don't yet know if overspecs are possible with the new system)

I still contend that the 100 units per mat and data item in the game is going to make a huge impact on the perception of gathering this stuff being a conscious effort vs just something you accumulate in mass by simply playing the game. (Data especially)

There will be a few exceptions, but very few. Add to that the materials and data traders and the whole sky is falling argument is going to be moot once everyone actually uses the new system along with these changes to mat and data storage.

There will no longer be a need to IGNORE the mats you get from blown up ships during missions, missing out on data scanned in SC because your data storage is full AGAIN! -- You can now pick up everything all the time until you max everything to its 100 cap limit.

How many upgrades can you do in a session if you have 100 of every single mat and 100 of every single data those upgrades require? Think about it. Because we have NEVER had that kind of storage capacity before.

I predict that there will be a lot of Crow to eat in a few weeks on the part of the naysayers.
 
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Jimbodiah

Jimbodiah
I'm not sure if you have 4 lasers that you need to rank up each one seperately. I asked in chat a few times but they did not respond to it. But even if it is, they said it was supposed to be a progression system for the long term, not something you do right then and there.
 
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Bob Lighthouse

Banned
Bob Lighthouse
Muetdhiver said:
Most likely 2 weeks.

Plenty O time. 2 evenings should suffice. Time not spent checking the beta, but you reap what you sow.
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I was really hoping to gain access to Imperial Hammers before it drops, but I'm only a week in with ALD.
I really wanted to G1 long range a few of those, shooting for thermal secondaries.
Seems I might be just out of range/luck...

Jimbodiah said:
I'm not sure if you have 4 lasers that you need to rank up each one seperately. I asked in chat a few times but they did not respond to it.
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Yes you sure do, each shield booster etc too.
I've done dozens of G5 resistance and heavy duty shield boosters in the past few weeks.
:D
 
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Mengy

Mengy
Jimbodiah said:
I'm not sure if you have 4 lasers that you need to rank up each one seperately. I asked in chat a few times but they did not respond to it. But even if it is, they said it was supposed to be a progression system for the long term, not something you do right then and there.
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Yes you do. Every single module must go from G1 to G5 via the grind wall. You are essentially grinding engineer rep on every single module in the new system.
 
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Dbrn47

Dbrn47
No, because the method of gaining materials isn't getting better or worse, I'll just need the full spectrum of them instead of just G5s. Either way I don't like collecting them so I see no reason to rush them now. Grinding now or later doesn't make any difference to me, adding in the fact that the base numbers will be higher and I'll have to convert to get those numbers.
 
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EUS

EUS
Skipping grades is beautiful, I'd skip g2, or g3 or g4 depending on the module I was upgrading, as I am always missing at least 1 material for at least 2 grades on every module I've engineered.
 

Flatkat

Flatkat
Yep, I'm upgrading everything BEFORE the update. There's NO way i'll touch them afterwards. Talk about going backwards. Starting to think FD stands for Fun Denied :rolleyes:
 

GG7

G
Ydiss said:
Not a chance. Basing your game activities on an alpha build is foolish.
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Worse than that. Up till right now, no one has actually done any side by side comparing of the two systems, upgrade times, materials and data collection times etc.

I find it amusing that these are the very same people complaining about all the needless grinding they will soon have to do because of the changes. Yet what are they doing right now? Grinding out upgrades using a system a good number of them have also previously raged at for being a time wasting cluster blank.

Okay... Not totally convinced that your free time is as valuable to you as you are claiming it is.
 
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Mengy

Mengy
GG7 said:
Worse than that. Up till right now, no one has actually done any side by side comparing of the two systems, upgrade times, materials and data collection times etc.

I find it amusing that these are the very same people complaining about all the needless grinding they will soon have to do because of the changes.

Okay... Not totally convinced that your free time is as valuable to you as you are claiming it is.
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Um, the feedback forum was full of such comparisons? The actual process of getting the mats is not changing with 3.0, other than the mat broker, but with lower mats being needed now too you will not be able to trade them like you think you will.

The numbers speak for themselves, the grind will most likely be large.
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
Mengy said:
This is Frontier though. Historically not much changes between beta and release. Any adjustments typically happen AFTER release.
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I still wouldn't spend time rolling g5s. If we assume it doesn't change, I stand to upgrade almost every module on my ship. It'd require a grind of epic proportions for me to God roll everything to stand a chance that the new g5s won't be better.

But then I don't roll 100 times for the God roll anyway.

I do find it interesting that people want to go on a big grind fest right now to smash out g5 God rolls, as a way to avoid a potentially lesser grind fest post beta, to get similar results in the end (or likely worse if they can't God roll).

But, each their own.

Seems like it's just another way to say "I'm upset, this is what I'm going to do about it!"
 
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