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Shiro Akai

Shiro Akai
After playing solo since start I got bold and went into open. Tho not bold enough to take anything of value. My first trip in Adder was ok. Went to the other system, fulfilled the contract. Took some data and delivered it elsewhere. Bought some cargo and vendored it at my home station. During the session I believe I met some other player. Luckily I survived unharmed. What I observed was:
- game loads significantly longer
- landing pads queues
- errant moving dots on sensors

I plan on staying in open till some extreme "rage quitting inducting moment". Above drawbacks are not nice but bearable. If I'll face lots of unwanted game play mechanics (unprovoked destructions) then I may crawl back under my rock again.
 

Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust
Threeofseven said:
Just because you won't get a game ban for it does not mean it isn't cheating.
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Quite right. The fact it isn't against the rules, better yet, it's an intended feature means it isn't cheating.

The PvP community does not care if it's a task kill or menu log.
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2 things,

1. The PvP community isn't a uniform entity
2. I don't care about those you refer to within the PvP community, so there is balance in the force.

It will still get you on the EliteCombatLoggers subreddit and added to the master KOS list (which is searchable on most pvp discords)--and then you will be ganked quite often.
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The master KOS list!!! You can't make this up. The master KOS list. You guys are serious about this?

How do you get on the EliteCombatLoggers subreddit master KOS list? Can I be on it? Pleaeaeaeaease?
 

Harley Quinn

Harley Quinn
Been playing in open all year on and off, depends on my mood and what I’m doing. Probably about 70% in open.

Escaped/avoided about a dozen interdictions. Been pulled at a CG and killed by 2 FDLs (hardly a shock). Been attacked in CZs twice and chased them off (still no player kills for me, down to 90% hull my best on those 2), seen people about in large numbers and at other times days with nobody. Location more of a driver for that.

Made some friends, shot lots of NPCs, honked places and shipped goods and messages.

Yes it can be scary. Yes you can get killed. But honestly if you don’t hit the obvious high traffic areas it’s no real difference to Mobius or Solo unless unlucky.

Keeping an eye on where you are going, what’s going on, which PMFs are active and the style they play, and then avoiding the danger or knowingly accepting the risks works fine for me.

While I’m not saying it’s the OP (no idea there at all) I have seen people moaning about being popped when messing in others BGS (although they claimed ignorance as a defence) and those moaning about being killed in high traffic areas without realising that high traffic = good hunting grounds for some. I can’t help wondering at that.
 

damon8r351

damon8r351
Ziggy Stardust said:
The master KOS list!!! You can't make this up. The master KOS list. You guys are serious about this?

How do you get on the EliteCombatLoggers subreddit master KOS list? Can I be on it? Pleaeaeaeaease?
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I...did not know there was a master KOS list. One wonders if people say these things aloud to themselves in the mirror without uncontrollably chortling because this isn't 2003 when we were playing Eve and listening to Korn.
 

thelivingdeadguy

thelivingdeadguy
Can I just point out that flying a ship that can survive a gank and flying a ‘max-engineered, G5, combat-monster’ are not the same thing.

Some people here seem to be having trouble with that.

Also, at least as important as your ship load out is savvy super-cruise piloting. Take the long way to stations, point your nose at would-be interdictors, use planets as cover. Fly smart.

Of course all of this is gonna absolutely cane your credits per hour. But if you just wanna see a visual representation of a steadily rising fictional bank account maybe just get a pen and paper instead. Can write whatever value of imaginary currency you like there.
 

GreyAreaUK

GreyAreaUK
Ziggy Stardust said:
The master KOS list!!! You can't make this up. The master KOS list. You guys are serious about this?

How do you get on the EliteCombatLoggers subreddit master KOS list? Can I be on it? Pleaeaeaeaease?
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damon8r351 said:
I...did not know there was a master KOS list. One wonders if people say these things aloud to themselves in the mirror without uncontrollably chortling because this isn't 2003 when we were playing Eve and listening to Korn.
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Probably it makes them feel all buff and studly.
 

MajorHavoc

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Surely a dishonourable and cowardly attack ....... although I will admit I tried the FdL once and took it on a brief rampage when I found out I couldn't really go far in it !
 

Threeofseven

Threeofseven
Ziggy Stardust said:
Quite right. The fact it isn't against the rules, better yet, it's an intended feature means it isn't cheating.


2 things,

1. The PvP community isn't a uniform entity
2. I don't care about those you refer to within the PvP community, so there is balance in the force.


The master KOS list!!! You can't make this up. The master KOS list. You guys are serious about this?

How do you get on the EliteCombatLoggers subreddit master KOS list? Can I be on it? Pleaeaeaeaease?
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There actually is a KOS list that is searchable by discords. I don't usually use it nor do I usually kill anyone. I am just after cargo myself.

In fact I was watching a live stream from the pirate group The Code (I believe) and they were checking Cmdrs name as they were coming into the system at a CG and attacking anyone labeled as a logger. The list is real and it is used.

I don't get nearly as triggered about loggers as most PvPers because the way I see it, if you log I win. However it is annoying when a pirate is trying to make a (dis)honest living and the customer vanishes into thin air. If you escape or kill me I think that's great, good on you!, but menu logging does feel like cheating a bit. I wish they would do something like, menu logging = 10% of cargo going to the pirate then I might encourage it :D
 

Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust
Threeofseven said:
There actually is a KOS list that is searchable by discords. I don't usually use it nor do I usually kill anyone. I am just after cargo myself.

In fact I was watching a live stream from the pirate group The Code (I believe) and they were checking Cmdrs name as they were coming into the system at a CG and attacking anyone labeled as a logger. The list is real and it is used.

I don't get nearly as triggered about loggers as most PvPers because the way I see it, if you log I win. However it is annoying when a pirate is trying to make a (dis)honest living and the customer vanishes into thin air. If you escape or kill me I think that's great, good on you!, but menu logging does feel like cheating a bit. I wish they would do something like, menu logging = 10% of cargo going to the pirate then I might encourage it :D
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10% of cargo lost and floating in space for the pirate to pick up as abandoned cargo, or 10% of the bounty rewarded to a bounty hunter upon disconnect during an engagement for instance would be nice. The second a little bit open to exploiting, but I don't think it would be more profitable than other genuine money making activities.

Is logging the only way to get on the KoS list?
 

GreyAreaUK

GreyAreaUK
Threeofseven said:
I don't get nearly as triggered about loggers as most PvPers because the way I see it, if you log I win. However it is annoying when a pirate is trying to make a (dis)honest living and the customer vanishes into thin air. If you escape or kill me I think that's great, good on you!, but menu logging does feel like cheating a bit. I wish they would do something like, menu logging = 10% of cargo going to the pirate then I might encourage it :D
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Wasn't there some call to increase the menu timer and make it selectable right from the start?
 

Threeofseven

Threeofseven
Ziggy Stardust said:
10% of cargo lost and floating in space for the pirate to pick up as abandoned cargo, or 10% of the bounty rewarded to a bounty hunter upon disconnect during an engagement for instance would be nice. The second a little bit open to exploiting, but I don't think it would be more profitable than other genuine money making activities.

Is logging the only way to get on the KoS list?
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I believe there are other ways, but logging most common. It's tied in with inara so it will usually give their Inara profile (if they have one) or say unknown and the last line will say "KOS? Yes, confirmed logger" or "No."
 
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AsukaZ

AsukaZ
Ziggy Stardust said:
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The master KOS list!!! You can't make this up. The master KOS list. You guys are serious about this?

How do you get on the EliteCombatLoggers subreddit master KOS list? Can I be on it? Pleaeaeaeaease?
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Well they said 'Losers' qualify as well ..
so I may be way off the mark but you could try arguing with them a lot on the forums.
might work.
 
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