What? have you actually read the original post? It's simplification! Can you tell which part is more complicated than before?!
News Crime and Punishment in Beyond Chapter One
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What? have you actually read the original post? It's simplification! Can you tell which part is more complicated than before?!
It would be interesting if Powerplay Faction affiliation could be flagged on a per-ship basis as well, so you wouldn't necessarily always be forced to deal with PP drama in other systems, if you want a break.
It could be set up such that if you are detected actually doing something relevant to powerplay, the flag would turn back on, but if you're going about your business, you'd be anonymous
It could be set up such that if you are detected actually doing something relevant to powerplay, the flag would turn back on, but if you're going about your business, you'd be anonymous
Probably depends on their definition of nearby.
Even so, there are many waypoints on the way to colonia so you won't get to go 11kly for "free". The way I interpret it, if you get killed then you end up at the last station you docked at since nothing is nearby (except the station you commited a crime against to get killed.)
You know the part about being easier to understand....
Firstly, will the Interstellar Factor locations be searchable? Currently, you can't even search for them in EDDB.
Secondly, what about missions like Surface Scan? When you scan the data point, you get a dinky 600 CR bounty but now your ship is hot so you can't even turn the mission back in without taking a trek to some other system (which one? who knows?) to first clear the bounty. Sounds like a complete PITA for a mission that only gives you a hundred thousand credits.
Secondly, what about missions like Surface Scan? When you scan the data point, you get a dinky 600 CR bounty but now your ship is hot so you can't even turn the mission back in without taking a trek to some other system (which one? who knows?) to first clear the bounty. Sounds like a complete PITA for a mission that only gives you a hundred thousand credits.
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Interstellar Factors are available at any port in every system with a Low security rating, I don't believe that is going to change. You can already filter the map by security rating to find them.
From the Beyond 3.0 Beta 3 Patch Notes (Crime section):
- Interstellar factors are now available at all markets controlled by factions with Anarchy governments, regardless of star system security level.
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Further to my last comments a few pages back, found at:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/407608-Crime-and-Punishment-in-Beyond-Chapter-One/page2
• Bounties can be cleared by Interstellar Factors when your Notoriety is 0
• Any Notoriety means the interstellar factors cannot clear your fines or bounties.
I'd also suggest that while a Commander has outstanding fines and bounties - related to the crime of murder - the notoriety should *not* be able to return to 0. It should, perhaps, be possible to reduce to 1 while such crimes go unpunished and bounties remain outstanding.
(The notorious Commander should be at risk of discovery at all times, even if he switches to a 'clean' ship - through authority scans - when approaching a station, or interdicted by AI, as well as human players. Scans conducted while in supercruise should not result in detection for the notorious Commander in a 'clean' ship.).
This would mean that for a Commander to be able to pay the fine/clear the bounty, the Commander would have to surrender to the authorities at the relevant facilities when the notoriety has reduced to 1. It doesn't make sense, to me, that a Commander has committed the crime of murder, can stay logged in for 2 hours (not necessarily playing - perhaps just docked at a station) and the notoriety returns to 0, despite the fact there are outstanding bounties for murder.
• Commanders gain a Notoriety rating, a value between zero and ten.
• Notoriety increases by one whenever a Commander commits a murder crime.
• Notoriety decays one unit every 2 hours of time when you’re logged in the game back down to zero.
I believe there needs to be perpetual notoriety (minimum '1' until all bounties are cleared) - so long as there's an outstanding bounty for the crime of murder.
• Fines never mature into bounties.
This is a step backwards, in my opinion. Fines *should* mature into bounties. Surely, most of us are aware that an unpaid fine results in someone coming to collect. I'd suggest that NPC are sent after a player for unpaid fines and, on catching up with the Commander (once interdicted - of the AI can manage to pull that off..), the AI offers the Commander a chance to remotely pay the fine. Failure to do so results in termination... (I'd suggest that as a compromise the fines outstanding have to calculate to a certain amount *before* maturing into a bounty - perhaps £50,000).
As others have stated, the length of time notoriety takes to reduce in-game should be increased.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/407608-Crime-and-Punishment-in-Beyond-Chapter-One/page2
• Bounties can be cleared by Interstellar Factors when your Notoriety is 0
• Any Notoriety means the interstellar factors cannot clear your fines or bounties.
I'd also suggest that while a Commander has outstanding fines and bounties - related to the crime of murder - the notoriety should *not* be able to return to 0. It should, perhaps, be possible to reduce to 1 while such crimes go unpunished and bounties remain outstanding.
(The notorious Commander should be at risk of discovery at all times, even if he switches to a 'clean' ship - through authority scans - when approaching a station, or interdicted by AI, as well as human players. Scans conducted while in supercruise should not result in detection for the notorious Commander in a 'clean' ship.).
This would mean that for a Commander to be able to pay the fine/clear the bounty, the Commander would have to surrender to the authorities at the relevant facilities when the notoriety has reduced to 1. It doesn't make sense, to me, that a Commander has committed the crime of murder, can stay logged in for 2 hours (not necessarily playing - perhaps just docked at a station) and the notoriety returns to 0, despite the fact there are outstanding bounties for murder.
• Commanders gain a Notoriety rating, a value between zero and ten.
• Notoriety increases by one whenever a Commander commits a murder crime.
• Notoriety decays one unit every 2 hours of time when you’re logged in the game back down to zero.
I believe there needs to be perpetual notoriety (minimum '1' until all bounties are cleared) - so long as there's an outstanding bounty for the crime of murder.
• Fines never mature into bounties.
This is a step backwards, in my opinion. Fines *should* mature into bounties. Surely, most of us are aware that an unpaid fine results in someone coming to collect. I'd suggest that NPC are sent after a player for unpaid fines and, on catching up with the Commander (once interdicted - of the AI can manage to pull that off..), the AI offers the Commander a chance to remotely pay the fine. Failure to do so results in termination... (I'd suggest that as a compromise the fines outstanding have to calculate to a certain amount *before* maturing into a bounty - perhaps £50,000).
As others have stated, the length of time notoriety takes to reduce in-game should be increased.
Well spotted. Is that instead of or as well as?
EDIT - reading it a few times I'd guess it's 'as well as'.
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That won't show up on the galaxy map, will it? I guess all systems with Anarchy will have markets controlled by an Anarchy faction.
Looking better.
Glad you listened about Fines and Friendly Fire - as it sounds this should work.
However, does Trespass count as a Fine or Bounty? What you get for scanning private data points? How does that effect Trespass in a station?
A thought came to mind that inside the no-fire zone of a station Fines are counted as Bounties.
The ATR still seems it needs work to me, needed more time to test it properly in Beta I think.
What is stated will help any sustained cop-killing sprees, but may leave single-ship murders as a possibility - and over time the same effect still persists for the BGS.
Will be interesting to see if it'll work as intended but I still think this'll cut out many covert ops missions or murder contracts from ever being attempted in the future.
Raising the threshold for ATR spawns and making them persistent in system like Bounty Hunters and try to interdict players may have a better impact - or give a notoriety waiver for missions might help, but I guess we'll have to see.
Glad you listened about Fines and Friendly Fire - as it sounds this should work.
However, does Trespass count as a Fine or Bounty? What you get for scanning private data points? How does that effect Trespass in a station?
A thought came to mind that inside the no-fire zone of a station Fines are counted as Bounties.
The ATR still seems it needs work to me, needed more time to test it properly in Beta I think.
What is stated will help any sustained cop-killing sprees, but may leave single-ship murders as a possibility - and over time the same effect still persists for the BGS.
Will be interesting to see if it'll work as intended but I still think this'll cut out many covert ops missions or murder contracts from ever being attempted in the future.
Raising the threshold for ATR spawns and making them persistent in system like Bounty Hunters and try to interdict players may have a better impact - or give a notoriety waiver for missions might help, but I guess we'll have to see.
Thanks ED! That clears it all up for me.
The spice must flow...
From the 3.0 Open Beta - Patch Notes (Trade Data & Galaxy Map section):
- Galaxy Map: Filter by station services
I didn't had the time to play the beta but my guess would be that you should be able to.
You respawn at the nearest detention center, which if you fly half way + 1 to Colonia, is the one in Colonia since fdev forgot to put in deep space detention centers.
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Well, by reading all these new restrictions I ask myself if Frontier still wants us to play the game, or if the probably do not want us to play the game anymore.
- Do not play pvp a lot (or you'll be screwed up)
- Do not switch modules a lot
- Do not work on the background simulation that much
And so on. :O
- Do not play pvp a lot (or you'll be screwed up)
- Do not switch modules a lot
- Do not work on the background simulation that much
And so on. :O
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No. They merely mitigate the problem of reverse ramming griefing. Otherwise, griefers would be tempted even more to fly in an unshielded Sidewinder into a path of a still decelerating ship.
Looks like retreating a faction will be more impossible than it already is.