Why is the T10 cockpit so manky?

GraXXoR

GraXXoR
I thought the T10 was supposed to be a new ship but the cockpits look all scratched up in the videos.

Yes I know they pulled an FDEV on us (by that I mean ‘lowest acceptable placeholder’) but surely they could have spent the time on the cockpit rather than on that ricer spoiler.

Or...

Can it be rethought as a lore thing? That Lakon actually repurposed all the unloved Type 9s (now that everyone and their dog is a king and can get the Cutter) and rebuilt them as Type 10s?

Any head cannon thoughts and / or snide jabs welcome.
 

Devari

D
It's the same issue with the "new" Viper Mk IV that has the old beat up Viper Mk III cockpit. It's just laziness on FD's part not to do a minimal re-texturing for the cockpits and change some of the accent lighting. The only "variant" cockpit that they did this for was the Cobra Mk IV by changing the accent lights to white and it made a significant impact on the "feel" of the cockpit. It would be nice to see them do the same for the other ships (Viper Mk IV and Type-10) but I doubt we're going to see either of these ship cockpits updated.
 

777Driver

777Driver
As mentioned, the T10 is just a T9 Chassis that has been reinforced, there are slight differences, although you would probably only notice it if you have VR or maybe trackIR. The entire flooring of the T-10 is different to the T9, the rest are slight cosmetic variations visible from the bridge due to the hull changes (T-10 has additional protection above the main canopy)
 
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kofeyh

kofeyh
Ophion said:
I was pleasantly surprised to see a new dashboard on the Chieftain instead of the old one from all other Lakon ships.
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It wasn't the typical lakon 6x9 bit of lumber dropped onto a couple tree trunks. This surprised me also. In a good way.
 

Valorin

Valorin
All Lakon cockpits are like that and I'm fine with that actually. If controls are holographic it's a valid approach on cockpit design to make it rather spartanic. Apart from that the T10 bridge has a lot of detail actually. It's just rather dark. I kinda like that.

Also the ship design itself is not just a T9 with stuff attached. It's a completely different design.

PS: the spoiler, yeah... don't like it either.
 
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777Driver

777Driver
Valorin said:
Also the ship design itself is not just a T9 with stuff attached. It's a completely different design.

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Then why does the description say this? - Utilising a reinforced Type-9 chassis as a starting point.

The whole blurb pretty much says that the ship was designed to be rolled out quickly, that suggests a modification on existing hulls.
 

Valorin

Valorin
777Driver said:
Then why does the description say this? - Utilising a reinforced Type-9 chassis as a starting point.

The whole blurb pretty much says that the ship was designed to be rolled out quickly, that suggests a modification on existing hulls.
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What I said above. Lorewise that's true. I meant the ingame model.
 

Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
GraXXoR said:
I thought the T10 was supposed to be a new ship but the cockpits look all scratched up in the videos.

Yes I know they pulled an FDEV on us (by that I mean ‘lowest acceptable placeholder’) but surely they could have spent the time on the cockpit rather than on that ricer spoiler.

Or...

Can it be rethought as a lore thing? That Lakon actually repurposed all the unloved Type 9s (now that everyone and their dog is a king and can get the Cutter) and rebuilt them as Type 10s?

Any head cannon thoughts and / or snide jabs welcome.
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Yeah this copy-pasta of all Lakon cockpits is so awkward. I don't even like it but nearly half of all available ships have it :O
i'm just glad that they did a great job on the Chieftain cockpit. I just would like it, if they would make a rework of most Lakon cockpits to make it more awesome like the Chieftain. Some can stay ugly (just because) bu some of the more expensive ones need more than just a copy-past cockpit.
hard to find out, in which Lakon ship you sit in if don't looking from 3rd perspective :|
 

GraXXoR

GraXXoR
777Driver said:
Then why does the description say this? - Utilising a reinforced Type-9 chassis as a starting point.

The whole blurb pretty much says that the ship was designed to be rolled out quickly, that suggests a modification on existing hulls.
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Just because it uses the chassis, doesn’t mean it’s a recycled ship. I read it as “they utilize the same chassis, not actually already built ships’ chasses.” And why should they have the same old cockpit? I mean did they design the cockpit of new ships with the damage already applied to it like the worn out look of various designer jeans?
 
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777Driver

777Driver
GraXXoR said:
But second-hand hulls? Bought back or dig up from landfill sites?

Why does “utilizing the same design” suddenly mean “resuming old ships?”
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Same secondhand hulls we purchase from shipyards. Many of the designs are hundreds of years old, for definite all Eagles are second hand, and looking at the state of many other ships it is safe to say they are also reconditioned ships. Again, the Lakon blurb talks about Utilising a reinforced Type-9 - If you are looking for a quick rollout it would make sense to use a reconditioned hull as opposed to building a brand new T9 Chassis.
 

Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
777Driver said:
Same secondhand hulls we purchase from shipyards. Many of the designs are hundreds of years old, for definite all Eagles are second hand, and looking at the state of many other ships it is safe to say they are also reconditioned ships. Again, the Lakon blurb talks about Utilising a reinforced Type-9 - If you are looking for a quick rollout it would make sense to use a reconditioned hull as opposed to building a brand new T9 Chassis.
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I understand "hundreds of year old design " is not the same like "hundred of years old ship".
If my Python would be actual 600 years old, i would jump just 7 lightyears, would need 8 people to even fly it and many many more things.

Design is just the basic chassis. The technology and especially the interface has improved in the hundreds years that passed.
I understand, that i buy a new produced ship that uses an old design. Not a used old ship.
The only exception i see here is the Eagle because she is not in production anymore, only parts for repairing. (Still endless Eagles out there....)

Some ships like the Type-10, Beluga, Dolphin, Corvette and Cutter are new ships. Some look "new" and others don't.
Why are the Lakon ships supposed to look ugly and worn out? Half of all ships are produced by Lakon. I would understand this cockpit look if it was only the T-series. But it's also the Asp-series (scout is brandnew!!!), the Diamondback-series (very young ships) and the Keelback (brandnew!!!)
Are we supposed to stare half the time at an ugly cockpit?

I bet it was more lazyness.


I wish i could pay them a hundred million more just to get a beautifull Asp-cockpit, a new Viper-cockpit that is not scratched till death everywhere, etc etc.....
What about wear and tear like with the paintjob?

The mysterious Eagle which is supposed to be a model out of it's time looks BRANDNEW and shiny from within the cockpit?!?!?!
 
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Mrat13

M
It's a Lakon ship. The view is outside of that cockpit. You want a nice interior, buy an Imperial ship, or maybe even a Saud Krauger ship (as much as I just made out Imp ships are the best, get a Suad Krauger ship, trust me, they look fantastic).
 

Ambroza

Ambroza
Valorin said:
What I said above. Lorewise that's true. I meant the ingame model.
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They also used the T-9 as a starting point for the model itself. They just added the retro thrusters, the wing-tips, the spoiler, swapped out the rear thrusters, and added some fuel-tank looking things to the bottom.
 
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