Well, I'm a law-abiding PVE player - meaning I do not pirate NPCs, kill cops or engage in any other criminal activity. So far, new C&P system gives me only negatives: I have to go to IF to wipe that 500 Cr bounty for accidental shooting, and now I've got a nerf to reputation increase method. I wonder what's next?
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Well, I'm a law-abiding PVE player - meaning I do not pirate NPCs, kill cops or engage in any other criminal activity. So far, new C&P system gives me only negatives: I have to go to IF to wipe that 500 Cr bounty for accidental shooting, and now I've got a nerf to reputation increase method. I wonder what's next?
Full marks for the quick edit, but I appreciate Sandy's giving us the detailed rundown, as the highly interested players.
Hopefully that will be a fine now, and you won't need IF unless you destroy them.
Maybe it gets you ganked less often (If you play in Open, that is)?
This is actually a really good thing. It was OK the way it was in 2.4, but even better now.
Those of us who wish to manipulate the BGS will bounty hunt and KWS everything. We turn in the bounties for factions that we want to help with those factions, everything else goes to IF. That boosts our individual reputation back up, but does not support any factions that we do not wish to support. Also, extra cash is always good.
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@CMDR BigJay yes it looks as though you are correct, then I look forward to testing the changes and see how it shakes down in the game.
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I never play in Open.
Hello Commander MadDogMurdock!
That's because it does not happen unless the minor faction has a presence in multiple systems, in which case it's business as usual. We've looked at the code and it only generates (and has only ever generated) bounties for factions in the current system and what we're calling "lightweight Interstellar bounties" which we are retiring.
That's because it does not happen unless the minor faction has a presence in multiple systems, in which case it's business as usual. We've looked at the code and it only generates (and has only ever generated) bounties for factions in the current system and what we're calling "lightweight Interstellar bounties" which we are retiring.
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It seems to have been answered.
If I read it right, you could claim individual bounties still with the related factions OR choose to take the credit hit to claim it elsewhere.
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Hmm, I'm almost positive that I've been getting minor faction bounties for KWS scanning ships that interdict me in unpopulated systems.
Okay.
Can you at least increase monetary value for local bounties, in order to compensate for a loss of "lightweight interstellar bounties"?
This certainly sounds like an improvement, but the proof, they say, is in the rum.
So, you were being hyperbolic?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean here - let's say there's a local system with Federation, Empire and Alliance local factions. In this place, under the new system, you scan a Wanted target. Instead of seeing just the bounty from the authority in that jurisdiction which you would pick up from a basic scan, the KWS lets you see bounties from all factions in the system - so if it was a Federal jurisdiction, it might well include bounties from the Empire and Alliance local factions. When you hand in those bounties, you are still getting rep with all three superpowers. Or am I missing something here?
You're losing the old lightweight Interstellar Bounties, which it is clear were not working properly.
As for Interpol, let's skim over the fact it's not exactly all-powerful, and let's also ignore the various controversies that have engulfed it.
Any comparison to that is suspect to me. Even on a single planet of a few billion, we have trouble coordinating law enforcement.
In a galaxy of trillions, with no central authority for anything (remember, even Universal Cartographics are basically a business, selling their cartography data to the masses, while buying it pretty cheap from the relatively few explorer-commanders... and even then they don't trust us enough without getting multiple confirmations from several commanders... and that's for relatively unchanging stellar body data!), the idea of a central galactic database that keeps track of who's wanted by who all the time and which every single faction in the galaxy (barring anarchies of course) is signed up to... I'm sorry, that sounds stupid to me. Elite's galaxy isn't meant to be some silver lycra utopia where everyone is on the same page - not in any rendition of it I've read or experienced. It's meant to be a chaotic mix of competing ambitions and interests, where conflict breaks out all the time. There's peaceful areas, sure, and nice textures on the overall expanse - settled areas with good tech and decent government... but the essence is of humanity having spread almost out of conrol into the stars, with diverse governments and societies with the full kaleidoscope of law or lack thereof... where a commander has the chance to be a hero, or villain, or both at once, or just an opportunist with an eye on the main chance. The idea of some pan-galactic real-time bounty database just seems to run counter to that. So the Federation, Empire and Alliance are actively cooperating on maintaining and updating this database, along with every non-anarchic minor faction in the galaxy? Yeah. You may not like me saying it, but that does sound wrong.
The last item in that list is wrong. Currently bounties cashed with a factor do not provide influence to anyone anywhere whether they are superpower (Interstallar) bounties or regular faction bounties. I use factors several times a week and have extensive records of influence and actions for their systems, this has been the case throughout 2.4.
Not to mention the fact that if a superpower exists in a Factor's system you can't even cash their bounties there.
No need, they work that way already.
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It was never emergent gameplay element, it was thing player decided to do themselves, because it was easiest way to to do something close to territorial and executive control.
FD openly have said it was not how game was intended. Among other C&P it is meant to rain in and make life a bit more difficult for BGS 'gamers'.
Hello Commander biohazard15!
The lightweight bounties are being replaced with faction bounties for the system. Technically, the amount of money you can make turning in bounties will be identical as the value ranges for both types of bounty was the same.
The lightweight bounties are being replaced with faction bounties for the system. Technically, the amount of money you can make turning in bounties will be identical as the value ranges for both types of bounty was the same.
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Hi Sandro,
Regarding this, I'm sure that is what the code says, however, I believe "Factions in the Current System" probably includes ships. What I've seen happen is when in a completely empty system (no factions), you usually get a "lightweight Interstellar bounty", but can also get a bounty for whatever faction the attacking ship happens to belong to. I can't say I've seen it in 2.4, but most certainly have seen this happen in prior versions.
Me too
Though those are always from a mission interdictor (IIRC), which I'm guessing spawns with bounties relating to the system the mission came from and/or is going to???
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