So, you want to nerf the FDL but leave the Anaconda the way it is? :S
Serious proposals on how to reconcile the Anaconda WITHOUT DIRECTLY NERFING IT. (+Jump range)
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So, you want to nerf the FDL but leave the Anaconda the way it is? :S
The Anaconda isn't the best large PvP ship, best mission runner, best trader and AGAIN. All it has is the exploration range.
Outside of that there are better ships. I don't even fly mine and think this is asinine.
The Cutter needs a speed or shield nerf. Didn't see anyone asking for that?
Nerf the Cutter's speed or shield.
Now, can we get back to the Anaconda, or are we going to continue to play "whatabouttery" and try and ignore the elephant in the middle of the room?
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So, what you are saying is that the C7 hangar can release two birds in multi crew mode whereas the C6 can't? Or have I misunderstood?
I notice that the T9 is now 850T... That's a nice little Hull Mass "Nerf."
Overall, an excellent suggestion, requiring no extra mechanics... REPPED and added to the OP as a suggestion.
LOL... As Mengy said above, a slight hull mass reduction would go a long way to remedying the situation and give weight conscious ships a nice little boost AND make ships with X in their name that bit more Xy than before!
So, what you are saying is that the C7 hangar can release two birds in multi crew mode whereas the C6 can't? Or have I misunderstood?
I notice that the T9 is now 850T... That's a nice little Hull Mass "Nerf."
Overall, an excellent suggestion, requiring no extra mechanics... REPPED and added to the OP as a suggestion.
LOL... As Mengy said above, a slight hull mass reduction would go a long way to remedying the situation and give weight conscious ships a nice little boost AND make ships with X in their name that bit more Xy than before!
Nerf the Cutter's speed or shield.
Now, can we get back to the Anaconda, or are we going to continue to play "whatabouttery" and try and ignore the elephant in the middle of the room?
There's multiple elephants in the room. People play favorites in a childish attempt to get buffs to their preferred ships, citing their time is worth something when there's 10 ways to get to their destination faster.
Nerf the Cutter's speed or shield.
Now, can we get back to the Anaconda, or are we going to continue to play "whatabouttery" and try and ignore the elephant in the middle of the room?
The elephant that they used the lighter and stronger materials to make?
The Anacondas hull value is softer than both the Vette and Cutter. Not sure where this stronger comes from.
You do realise most people can plant the Anaconda in 3 or 4 shots right?
What's the problem with the Anaconda again?
I have one, but I rarely fly it.
I have one, but I rarely fly it.
Buff the Viper Mk. III! Again!
NVM, please ignore.
What percentage of players PvP? I'd wager very few... Judging by the plutonium-grade feedback that FDEV took when they dropped single player mode.
Catering for the PvP crowd in a majority PvE game is what got us in this "BALLLLLAAANCE the F out of everything," mishmash of mediocre ships in the first place... OF the 33 odd ships, how many actually have lasting value or appeal to the non RP crowd?
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Needs a bigger power distro.
Then I can go from being mildly annoying to large ships to incredibly annoying.
You don't fly your conda? Could it be that you prefer other ships and don't care about it? No way.
These threads really run the gambit of everything that is 'wrong' with it, maybe at least we could get a concensus of what IS wrong with it first? people seem to be constantly pointing at hull weight but at least from my view it isn't really unrealistic, we are likely talking about a ship that's gotten improvements over the years but also design improvements, weight isn't the end all be all of measurements sticks.
Irl you can find several ships where the weight/volume ratio is very small even though it is a big ship compared to other ships of its size , there are many factors in this, all I am saying is that, it isn't directly unrealistic, it all depends on what lore says.
If its OP in other aspects I couldn't say, but weight isn't the single deciding factor in such, and by far, Anaconda is not the only ship that has balance issues, FDL even got an upgrade despite even before the upgrade it was a fantastic combat ship, python has gotten downgrades previously that leaves it rather lackluster compared to other ships now, and it isn't like the cutter or corvette aren't great ships, so what it is truly that makes it op?
Is it simply too cheap for what it gives to every single person? because its not locked behind anything and is a great multi roll ship? should it maybe be more expensive to represent the more advanced then 'standard' materials used to make it lighter?
Irl you can find several ships where the weight/volume ratio is very small even though it is a big ship compared to other ships of its size , there are many factors in this, all I am saying is that, it isn't directly unrealistic, it all depends on what lore says.
If its OP in other aspects I couldn't say, but weight isn't the single deciding factor in such, and by far, Anaconda is not the only ship that has balance issues, FDL even got an upgrade despite even before the upgrade it was a fantastic combat ship, python has gotten downgrades previously that leaves it rather lackluster compared to other ships now, and it isn't like the cutter or corvette aren't great ships, so what it is truly that makes it op?
Is it simply too cheap for what it gives to every single person? because its not locked behind anything and is a great multi roll ship? should it maybe be more expensive to represent the more advanced then 'standard' materials used to make it lighter?
Because of this I think a non-FSD nerf to the Anaconda should be in order. I'm tired of seeing no real benefits of stepping up to the Corvette or Cutter.
If you see no real benefits you aren't looking close enough!
Peculiar thing is, my "pony in this race" has nothing to do with the Cutter nor the Corvette... of which I own neither.
Mine is that out of the 33 ships available in game, it clearly overshadows the vast majority of them in terms of capability.
I don't "want" the Anaconda to be "nerfed", but if FD isn't going to bring the other ships in-line so they're not constantly being overshadowed by multi-role ships, then yes... I will take that stance.
Mine is that out of the 33 ships available in game, it clearly overshadows the vast majority of them in terms of capability.
I don't "want" the Anaconda to be "nerfed", but if FD isn't going to bring the other ships in-line so they're not constantly being overshadowed by multi-role ships, then yes... I will take that stance.
What do you mean overshadows? all the big three, or four now I guess generally overshadow the smaller ships? so could you clarify?
while T9 has now improved a lot Cutter is still the best trader.
Corvette is generally the best combat ship (though pvp pricepoint is too expensive, and people go fdl for that)
Anaconda is best explorer and fairly decent as combat and trader?
T10 I don't know where to place yet..
So how does anaconda overshadow?
Overshadowed in context of what, exactly? Unless I've completely missed the fact that I've stepped into some kind of RP thread and various people here are playing as Lakon or Core Dynamics lobbyists urging some major faction to impose some sort of regulations on Faulcon Delacy because the Anaconda is just killing them in sales, I'm not seeing anyone suffering becuase one ship is (perceived to be) better than others. What is it to me if everyone or no one else uses the same ship?
Why do I care about 'ship diversity?' What impact could it possibly have on me?
Look, I'm just gonna say that PvP Condas are about as popular as PvP Corvettes compared to the disparity between the Python and the FDL.
You forgot the 3rd part of the equation here - cost. For some reason, the Anaconda has the lightest, strongest and cheapest hull of the classic Big 3.