Guide / Tutorial ANCIENT GUARDIANS MISSION GUIDE,Step by Step;111MCr(was 201MCr)

[baqar79]

I've checked my logs, and I'm currently at 99/101. T7 has been sorted out. I must have missed the msg, because it's in my log. I currently can't find a working T11 and C11. I've been checking the route planner but the sites have alle changed So my problem now is that I cant find the right obelisk .

It seems that it is mostly these beta locations that are scrambled. I just have Language 13 & 14 to locate, but here is where I found C11 & T11 (Just found T11 about an hour ago as of writing this):

C11: COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-13 | AB 9 A | 71.3187, -112.4353 (Beta) - https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR24
-I think this map may be accurate, or at least the placement of Culture 11 & 12.

T11: COL 173 SECTOR DH-K B25-2 | A 5 | 25.5372, 115.649 (Beta) - https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR74
-Head in a 2 O'clock direction from site H on the map (which isn't actually at this location) until you hit the corner of the wall; here is where I found T11 (a group of obelisks in a triangle shaped formation).

 

[dognosh]

Terrible programming and testing killed off skimmer missions, mining missions , this fantastic "rites of passage" Guardians mission (yes I did call it that, it is a ceremony , a must do by all Cmdrs) and now there are little hints of 200M Cr/hour Wing missions(which will no doubt get killed off)

Then there is the new terrible grind that is Engineers(for the casual engineer user,not the min/max crowd as they are much better off) , all the terrible bugs in 3.0 and no doubt other items that will come to light soon.

My Guardians mission guide is now useless...

 

[Yushiro]

Terrible programming and testing killed off skimmer missions, mining missions , this fantastic "rites of passage" Guardians mission (yes I did call it that, it is a ceremony , a must do by all Cmdrs) and now there are little hints of 200M Cr/hour Wing missions(which will no doubt get killed off)

Then there is the new terrible grind that is Engineers(for the casual engineer user,not the min/max crowd as they are much better off) , all the terrible bugs in 3.0 and no doubt other items that will come to light soon.

My Guardians mission guide is now useless...

Yeah. It's getting bad. This does happen in a lot of games - when I was completely addicted to Battlefield 1, it seemed like every update introduced 10 new things and broke 100 others. This community is pretty great, though...with the corrections that are already being posted in this thread, I have no doubt that we can eventually "fix" your mission guide. Unless, of course, they break things again...

 

[thengneer]

It seems that it is mostly these beta locations that are scrambled. I just have Language 13 & 14 to locate, but here is where I found C11 & T11 (Just found T11 about an hour ago as of writing this):

C11: COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-13 | AB 9 A | 71.3187, -112.4353 (Beta) - https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR24
-I think this map may be accurate, or at least the placement of Culture 11 & 12.

T11: COL 173 SECTOR DH-K B25-2 | A 5 | 25.5372, 115.649 (Beta) - https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR74
-Head in a 2 O'clock direction from site H on the map (which isn't actually at this location) until you hit the corner of the wall; here is where I found T11 (a group of obelisks in a triangle shaped formation).

If my notes are correct, I found Language 13 at GS79 (Obilisk N16) and Language 14 at GS134 (Obilisk N23).

 

[dognosh]

Yeah. It's getting bad. This does happen in a lot of games - when I was completely addicted to Battlefield 1, it seemed like every update introduced 10 new things and broke 100 others. This community is pretty great, though...with the corrections that are already being posted in this thread, I have no doubt that we can eventually "fix" your mission guide. Unless, of course, they break things again...

I will wait a few weeks to see if they fix it. If not I'll take your wonderful workarounds and do a new guide(or amend this one )

 

[baqar79]

If my notes are correct, I found Language 13 at GS79 (Obilisk N16) and Language 14 at GS134 (Obilisk N23).

I owe you a bottle of wine (or your favourite drink) [up][praise]

Everything was exactly where you said it was and I now have all 101 notes. It is also worth mentioning that https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR79 also has T11, so this map seems to have not been hit by the random beta site changes.

I actually had no interest in the cash, I just wanted to get the Lore behind the guardians, only to learn quickly that the guides weren't working. I actually first started here:
https://elitepve.com/viewtopic.php?t=7179, then moved on to Canonn's and finally ended up here.

So a lot of work has been thrown away by these changes; so sorry dognosh about your guide, I would be gutted as well if I had put in this work (as well as the others like Evoflash on the link, or Canonn as well). Hopefully it can be put back together or better yet the changes reverted.

 

[Gimi]

Anybody have a recent location for Language 20?
It seems to be eluding me.

 

[baqar79]

Anybody have a recent location for Language 20?
It seems to be eluding me.

Looking through my notes, it looks like I located Language 20 (and 15) here https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR27 @ COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-13 | AB 9 B | 21.9117, 154.176 (Gamma)

Hmm...I think this one was difficult to find, since the Canonn route optimizer wasn't sure that it would be there (it had a ? next to it), but it was still there in section H.

 

[Gimi]

Looking through my notes, it looks like I located Language 20 (and 15) here https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR27 @ COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-13 | AB 9 B | 21.9117, 154.176 (Gamma)

Hmm...I think this one was difficult to find, since the Canonn route optimizer wasn't sure that it would be there (it had a ? next to it), but it was still there in section H.

Thanks, I'm on my way, but taking a break for the night.
I'm missing just one, but I have three that I havne't received messages for. So I'm not certain this is the one.
I miss messages for B2 and 5 plus L20. But have 100 scans.
This is my last attempt before giving up.

 

[baqar79]

Just thought I would tidy my notes a bit (only a tiny bit really, since it still is pretty messy) to help others:

Spoiler

SYNUEFE TP-F B44-0

SYNUEFE TP-F B44-0 | CD 1 | 59.33, 15.1 (Gamma) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR172
Errors on map:
D01 - TaOr displayed, CaOr (History 21) is actual.

Collected (19 of 101):
Hist 17,18,20,21
Bio 13,14,15,17,18
Lang 18
Tech 14,17,18,19
Cult 14,15,16,17,19


SYNUEFE TP-F B44-0 | CD 1 | 31.88, -100.05 (Alpha) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR172

Errors on map:
D07 - ToTa (Culture 5) displayed as OrTa (Technology 5)
D01, D06 - OrTo displayed instead of ToOr (Culture 6)

Collected (36 of 101):
Hist 1,3,4,5,6
Lang 2,3,4,5
Tech 1,2,3,4,5
Cult 4,5,6


SYNUEFE TP-F B44-0 | CD 1 | 31.96, -99.97 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR10

Lots of errors in layout

Collected (43 of 101):
Hist 11
Bio 8
Tech 7,8,9,13
Cult 8



COL 173 SECTOR KY-Q D5-47

COL 173 SECTOR KY-Q D5-47 | 9 A | -15.0842, -102.9397 (Alpha) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR12

Collected (50 of 101):
Bio 2,3,6
lang 6
Tech 6
Cult 1,3


COL 173 SECTOR KY-Q D5-47 | 9 A | -37.5256, 84.2501 (Gamma) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR14

Collected (56 of 101):
Bio 16,19
Tech 15,16,20
Cult 18


COL 173 SECTOR KY-Q D5-47 | 9 D | -10.8195, -89.8905 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR21

Collected (62 of 101):
Hist 10,14
Bio 11,12
Tech 12
Cult 7


COL 173 SECTOR KY-Q D5-47 | 8 C | 46.07, -171.33 (Alpha) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR7

Collected (64 of 101):
Hist 2
Cult 2


COL 173 SECTOR KY-Q D5-47 | 8 C | 16.2701, 18.1282 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR6

(Map layout no good, but I listed what I got here):

Collected (70 of 101):
Hist 8,12
Lang 9,11,12
Tech 10



VELA DARK REGION EL-Y D32

VELA DARK REGION EL-Y D32 | B 1 | 41.15, 129.26 (Alpha) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR55

Collected (71 of 101):
Hist 7


VELA DARK REGION EL-Y D32 | B 1 | 10.46, 130.24 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR56

Collected (73 of 101):
Lang 8
Cult 13


VELA DARK REGION EL-Y D32 | B 1 | 7.9, -86.46 (Gamma) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR57

Collected (76 of 101):
Hist 19
Lang 21
Cult 20



VELA DARK REGION KR-W C1-24

VELA DARK REGION KR-W C1-24 | 7 A, Not sure sorry!, either https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR52 or https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR54

Collected (78 of 101):
Lang 1,7



COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-59

COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-59 | 8 A | 1.52, -116.65 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR33

Collected (81 of 101):
Hist 15,16
Cult 10


COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-59 | 8 A | -20.32, -133.64 (Alpha) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR29

Collected (83 of 101):
bio 1,5


COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-59 | 8 A | -5, -175.21 (Gamma) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR34

Collected (86 of 101):
lang 16,17,19


COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-59 | 8 B | -6.34, 130.67 (Alpha) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR35

Collected (87 of 101):
Bio 4



COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-13

COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-13 | AB 9 A | 71.3187, -112.4353 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR24

Collected (90 of 101):
bio 10
Cult 11,12


COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-13 | AB 9 B | 21.9117, 154.176 (Gamma) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR27

Collected (92 of 101):
Lang 15,20



COL 173 SECTOR OE-P D6-11

COL 173 SECTOR OE-P D6-11 | B 3 | 2, -10.67 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR67

*WRONG LAYOUT*
Collected (93 of 101):
Cult 9 (found in E group)



HIP 39768

HIP 39768 | A 14 F | -0.0129, -149.4705 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR25

*WRONG LAYOUT*
Collected (96 of 101):
Bio 7,9 (both found in U group location)
Hist 13 (found in supposedly empty southern circle).



COL 173 SECTOR KN-J B25-5

COL 173 SECTOR KN-J B25-5 | C 3 | -18.6814, 61.893 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR95

Collected (98 of 101):
Hist 9
Lang 10 (obelisk blank though for some reason)



COL 173 SECTOR DH-K B25-2

COL 173 SECTOR DH-K B25-2 | A 5 | 25.5372, 115.649 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR74

*WRONG LAYOUT*
Collected (99 of 101):
Tech 11 (2 O'Clock from H area (which isn't here), nestled against the wall).



COL 173 SECTOR WK-A A48-4

COL 173 SECTOR WK-A A48-4 | A 3 | -0.2629, -133.1227 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR134

Collected(100 of 101):
Lang 14


COL 173 SECTOR UU-O D6-42

COL 173 SECTOR UU-O D6-42 | A 1 C | -12.0051, -99.3617 (Beta) https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR79

*MAP LAYOUT GOOD HERE, ANOTHER SOURCE OF Tech 11*
Collected(101 of 101):
Lang 13

Unfotunately since I changed the way I took notes as I went along they aren't perfectly clear and I don't have the best memory, so there may be some errors (Beta sites are almost always different layouts from the Cannon maps, so you will need to look through these sites yourself to find the codex entries I listed there).

Perhaps it might come in handy to those looking for a particular Codex entry, but since it does change quite a bit (the OP's guide is the 3rd guide I came across), it could be out of date as you read it now.

 

[dognosh]

Thanks, I'm on my way, but taking a break for the night.
I'm missing just one, but I have three that I havne't received messages for. So I'm not certain this is the one.
I miss messages for B2 and 5 plus L20. But have 100 scans.
This is my last attempt before giving up.

Check transactions tab and see what your current reward is. That will tell you how many you've scanned.

 

[Cmdr-Wotherspoon]

Terrible programming and testing killed off skimmer missions, mining missions , this fantastic "rites of passage" Guardians mission (yes I did call it that, it is a ceremony , a must do by all Cmdrs) and now there are little hints of 200M Cr/hour Wing missions(which will no doubt get killed off)

Then there is the new terrible grind that is Engineers(for the casual engineer user,not the min/max crowd as they are much better off) , all the terrible bugs in 3.0 and no doubt other items that will come to light soon.

My Guardians mission guide is now useless...

Your guide was extremely useful. Thank you for completing it. Now that the objects required appear on the Guardian Codices (the obelisks), there is less need for external guides, although the original Guardians mission from Felipe Dock remains a marathon, and some guidance is useful. Even the new 28-item mission can be frustrating.

I don't think all these problems are necessarily caused by poor programming or testing. The nature of many of these features are that they are implemented using procedural technology, a set of rules that propagate through the galaxy and have different effects in different systems. There are sometimes edge cases that are not found during testing, and that's because (for example) the developers may not have direct control over the distribution of active obelisks. This is how we have a galaxy with 400 billion stars, but it also means that if you mess with the procedure that operates on the seed value, the existing configuration will change. As the game develops, the procedures unfortunately sometimes need to be tweaked.

 

[BuddyE]

I am currently at the Gamma site at SYNUEFE TP-F B44-0 CD 1

Found a faulty obelisk. D01 works with Casket+Orb as in the guide. Ingame the symbols are Tablet+Orb, which does not work.

 

[Ethan Drake]

Baqar79, thanks for taking time to help others. +Rep.

 

[thengneer]

I owe you a bottle of wine (or your favourite drink) [up][praise]

Everything was exactly where you said it was and I now have all 101 notes. It is also worth mentioning that https://ruins.canonn.technology/#GR79 also has T11, so this map seems to have not been hit by the random beta site changes.

I actually had no interest in the cash, I just wanted to get the Lore behind the guardians, only to learn quickly that the guides weren't working. I actually first started here:
https://elitepve.com/viewtopic.php?t=7179, then moved on to Canonn's and finally ended up here.

So a lot of work has been thrown away by these changes; so sorry dognosh about your guide, I would be gutted as well if I had put in this work (as well as the others like Evoflash on the link, or Canonn as well). Hopefully it can be put back together or better yet the changes reverted.

Lavian Brandy is my tipple of choice [smile]

 

[Gimi]

Check transactions tab and see what your current reward is. That will tell you how many you've scanned.

Yes, I know.
I have 100 mil reward, but only received 98 messages. Problem is, don't know which of the remaining three I'm missing.
I have tried multiple scans at different sites of all the last three with no luck so far.

 

[baqar79]

Baqar79, thanks for taking time to help others. +Rep.

Thank you

Lavian Brandy is my tipple of choice [smile]

Didi?, what are you doing posing on the forums? You realize...you are way past alcoholism...

Yes, I know.
I have 100 mil reward, but only received 98 messages. Problem is, don't know which of the remaining three I'm missing.
I have tried multiple scans at different sites of all the last three with no luck so far.

I noticed several of the valid combination messages actually appear in the same place as the invalid ones (So don't appear at the top of your messages)...unfortunately they seem to have been erased from my messages, so I can't isolate which ones they are

 

[BuddyE]

I noticed several of the valid combination messages actually appear in the same place as the invalid ones (So don't appear at the top of your messages)...unfortunately they seem to have been erased from my messages, so I can't isolate which ones they are

Yesterday i had failing messages at SYNUEFE LY-I B42-2 C2 Gamma ruin. Scans 1-4 did not give me messages but the money counter went up.
And it weren't cases were the message comes in and quickly dissapears. That old bug can be solved by just scanning a random obelisk right after that.

In these cases i got no message at all. So Language 16 for example is not in my inbox, but i got paid for it.

Edit:
Also at the Gamma in B44 History 17 bugged out. Did not appear but the next scan gave me 2x Culture 16.

 

[Oida Voda]

Good morning out there.

I'm a bit frustrated at the moment, maybe one of you guys can help.

I am doing the Ram Tah Quest and am missing Language 14.
No matter, how many sites I visited (according to maps/guides), the Obelisks giving those just simply don't show up.
All the maps where those two should be are different cluster setup.

Best Regards, OV

EDIT: Never mind, finally found it!

 

[BuddyE]

I just completed route 1.
Here is a description of what I had to do:

Spoiler

You will need to refer to https://ruins.canonn.technology/# for the extra maps.
Site reference pasted from http://edshipyard.com/gsopt.html
Pages refer to route 1 from the guide.
You have to keep track of what is missing during the whole run...

Page 1
GS9 SYNUEFE TP-F B44-0 CD 1 59.33 15.10
All scans OK
Scan count 18


Page 2
GS10 SYNUEFE TP-F B44-0 CD 1 31.96 -99.97
scans 1 to 5 are impossible as the obelisks themselves are missing
Missing: H10 H11 L13 L14 T7
Other scans OK
Scan count 22


Page 3
GS11 SYNUEFE TP-F B44-0 CD 1 31.88 -100.05
All scans OK
Scan count 39


Page 4
GS17 SYNUEFE LY-I B42-2 C 2 9.02 48.77
All scans OK
Additional scan: H10 on G16
Scan count 43

Page 5
GS15 SYNUEFE LY-I B42-2 C 2 -10.07 114.50
All scans OK
Scan count 52


Additional Page pre-6
GS58 COL 173 SECTOR AP-Q B21-2 A 8 -33.10 -32.27
Additional scan T7 on M2
Scan count 53


Page 6
GS59 COL 173 SECTOR AP-Q B21-2 B 4 13.33 -61.55
All scans OK
Scan count 56


Page 7
GS24 COL 173 SECTOR LY-Q D5-13 AB 9 A 71.32 -112.44
All scans OK
Scan count 60


Additional Page 7a
GS67 COL 173 SECTOR OE-P D6-11 B 3 2.00 -10.67
Additional scan: H11 on F2
Scan count 61


Additional page 7b
GS134 COL 173 SECTOR WK-A A48-4 A 3 -0.26 -133.12
Additional scans: L13 on N1 and L14 on N23
Scan count 63

Here I thought I could go on as normal as I had all the missing scans from page 2...


Page 8
GS49 VELA DARK REGION KR-W C1-24 7 C -22.43 126.95
All scans OK
Scan count 65


Page 9
GS57 VELA DARK REGION EL-Y D32 B 1 7.90 -86.46
All scans OK
Scan count 68


Additional page 9b
GS56 VELA DARK REGION EL-Y D32 B 1 10.46 130.24
Some scans will be impossible on next page, let's get some now.
Additional scans: L12 on C9 and C13 on R10
Scan count 70


Page 10
GS25 HIP 39768 A 14 F -0.01 -149.47
scans 1 to 4 are impossible as the obelisks themselves are missing
Missing: T11 C10 L12 L13 (we already have done L12 and L13)
Other scans OK
Scan count 72


Page 11
GS43 SYNUEFE CE-R C21-6 C 1 -18.23 0.27
All scans OK
Scan count 74


Additional page 11b
GS41 SYNUEFE CE-R C21-6 C 1 -27.22 -7.36
Additional scan: T11 on E5
Scan count 75


Page 12
GS89 SYNUEFE ZL-J D10-109 E 3 -26.65 -148.43
All scans OK
Scan count 79


Additional page 12b
GS91 SYNUEFE ZL-J D10-109 E 3 39.92 -109.19
Additional scan: C10 on K14
Scan count 80 (we're back on track)


Page 13
GS45 SYNUEFE ZR-I B43-10 D 2 13.88 -0.55
All scans OK
Scan count 88


Page 14
GS44 SYNUEFE ZR-I B43-10 D 2 28.81 -51.83
All scans OK
Scan count 99


Page 15
GS46 SYNUEFE ZR-I B43-10 D 2 -32.71 -34.04
All scans OK
Scan count 101 (congratulations !)


There are probably some optimizations to be done but at least this works.
Thank you Dognosh for putting the original version together !

Ok, i just did this and it works. Thx SillYcoNe!

One thing to note: The messages seem to be bugged. mainly language ones. They will not appear on your list, but the money counter goes up.
Until this is fixed, always make sure you know your money count before a scan.

o7