From ZERO to CUTTER? in one go...

Last week was rather heated, Beyond p.1 setting down, people finding gold rushes, FDEV removing them, overall discussion about grind, money and limitations. Week as any other in ED [noob]

disclaimer: long post, no tl;dr

o7 CMDRs,

I wanted to share a bit of a story. Being always late for the party I miss all the "fast" credits activities and I always am credit starved. Therefore I am somewhat limited in my playstyle due to not being able to make relevant purchase. Making money for the sake of having money feels like grind. And other people advice were: just play the game and results will come. So, starting Friday, I said: screw it all, just play the game.

One of my general goals is to have a Cutter. Nearly cr 210 M price tag with a big rank requirement on top. Seeing how gaining ranks is a long and tedious process I haven't really attempted that in the past. But no more neglecting, the sooner I start, the sooner I finish. Some day. Eventually.

Game is awesome in providing relevant, accurate and sufficient information - at this point I consider Google, Wiki, reddit and Youtube ED extensions - I found a place rumored to be good spot to advance Empire Navy ranks. Fun fact - today I watched CMDR Plater's video, dated 2 days ago (date when I started running at that spot), about my spot. Now you know what I mean about always being late for the party...

So, starting conditions. When Beyond landed I bought Chieftain and little bit outfitted it. These actions consumed almost half of my funds and I was left with: cr 68 M. My Empire standing was: half way Friendly and rank: 0 (none). I pulled out my Python, set course and few jumps later I arrived at my destination. Adventure had started.

I spent entire weekend there, Friday evening and few sessions in the following days. Overall it took me 6 sessions - didn't count hours ans I was "just playing". Not grinding, not ranking. Just playing. Load up 20 boom data delivery and courier job available missions. 3.8 LY jump, dock and hand in. Load up 20 missions for the way back. Rinse and repeat. At this point I must admit - it gets boring after few rounds. Luckily YT playing in the background with some music helped a lot. Glitch Mob, Japan POP live radio, best '80s electronic and I haven't noticed when evening turned into late night.

As I said, started with 68M and rank 0, here are the results of my sessions (been taking notes):
#1* - 83.6M (+15.6M) Empire Friendly to Allied, then rank 2 Serf
#2 - 92.2M (+8.6M) and rank 5 Knight
#3 - 109.9M (+16.9M) and rank 8 Viscount
#4 - 144.8M (+35.7M) and rank 11 Marquise
#5 - 152.2M (+7.4M) and rank 12 Duke

(*) - while running in my Python I decided I haven't used my DBX for a long time, made a break to hangar Python and get DBX instead. After the swap I continued.

Yeah, got from nobody to Duke over the weekend. Earned 84M in the process. Bought the following:

Imperial Eagle
"Hashidate"

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Imperial Courier

"Hyuuga"

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Imperial Clipper
"Kirishima"

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Here, she's Basking in Her Glory, Medupe City, Cubeo system.


Although I have enough of rank, I'm short on credits to buy my final imperial goal - The Cutter. With the above purchases I'm left with 128M. But not hasten the facts - "grind" review time.

Don't know if it's some kind of bug or not but I couldn't track my rank progress. While force rep bar was filling, factions rep bars showed my actual standing, rank bars were always full and showing 100% completion, even just after gaining rank. For example, seen rank 5 Knight 100%. Handed in 20 missions and got Imperial Navy Intelligence mission (rank up). Delivered that, handed in and bam - rank 6 Lord 100%, bar filled. Next I had to spend over an hour running missions to get another INI mission and rank up higher.

Speaking of INI missions, they weren't popping equally. Master to baron (3-7) took less than None to Master (0-3). Also Master to Viscount was relatively fast, slowing down toward the end (rank 12 Duke). I could get rank up mission after few runs (3-5) speeding the middle part considerably, then was a bit of drought before next one appeared. My explanation is that I accumulated enough rep for a rank up, just mission didn't pop up so I could actually rank up. And when it did and I made another rank I already had about half the progress towards next rank. Would explain one event when I logged out (no rank up mission, checked it). After logging in few hours later rank up mission was available right on.

Now money - missions started at 10k to rise up to 12-41k per delivery. It didn't matter much as I took rep+++ with flat 10k payout as a reward so credit offer was just a figure. Main income came from time bonus. Making allied with local faction took 1-2 runs so it was almost instant. 15 minutes of flying and rewards offered were maxed out. Delivery bonus was anything from 40k to 180k, 75% of the missions were granting bonus. Star to station flight time was few minutes, time window 26-34 minutes... On average I did 1-2.5M a run.

Got like 6 tip off mails, faced 3 or 4 interdictions. Apart from that A-B-A shuttle flights.

Now - ships. My goal was Cutter obviously. 84M I earned wasn't enough to buy one, my balance ended at 152M. Instead I bought Cutter-wannabe: Clipper. Eagle for the collection since 88k is a pocket spare. Courier I got for my planned Fed rank up run. Covert Ops.

And Clipper. Didn't had any real expectations with that ship. But when I sat in the seat, looked at controls, room... everything. Wow. Just wow. When I had to switch to my DBX to swap few internals it felt like stepping out a Gulfstream into old garbage truck (and I love my DBX). The quality difference was like that. But luckily finished outfitting and took her for a spin...

That's a topic for another thread. Suffice to say I'm surprised.

To sum up. With a bit of luck (finding good spot) currently one can fly through ranks within few days. Now all I need is some gold rush to fill my credit gap and finally get that elusive Cutter. Or I will run Fed ranks for the Corvette (in iCourier) and use their money for the Cutter.

But who will fund me Corvette then...?:rolleyes:
 
Take your python to ceos/sothis
Rinse and repeat data missions and high paying local cargo deliveries.

The corvette wont take long at all to get..

Don't do the rank up missions untill you've done at least 1000 data missions
(If you're picking the cash rather than rep rewards)
Then just do the rank up missions every circuit..

I did this in a sidewinder over the weekend and hit rear admiral without even breaking a sweat..

The cash when fully allied per mission is 50-100k, so funding money for the vette is not a problem. ( Just concentrate on the fed factions)
 
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Take your python to ceos/sothis
Rinse and repeat data missions and high paying local cargo deliveries.

The corvette wont take long at all to get..

Don't do the rank up missions untill you've done at least 1000 data missions
(If you're picking the cash rather than rep rewards)
Then just do the rank up missions every circuit..

I did this in a sidewinder over the weekend and hit rear admiral without even breaking a sweat..

The cash when fully allied per mission is 50-100k, so funding money for the vette is not a problem. ( Just concentrate on the fed factions)

Why do people always bring up Ceos/Sothis? There's any number of better places to grind out Federal rep without jumping out to the boondocks.

Also there's next to no reason to delay rank-up missions....
 
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The most important would be tracking how long in time (total) you actually need for this. wihtin a "Few" day is not any kind of refference, ebcasue this coudl be the dude playing 14hours a day, or just someone playing 2 hours a day. a true "time spent ingame" timeframe is a much more important reference.

also, what starting conditions had your 3 ranks? there is still a difference between starting at ZERO rank or full rank, when speaking abut the outcoming rewards.

But bakc then when a rep mission wa slike half a % grind for ranks was indeed awful, dunno how it is nowdays, but anythign reducing it is good, no need to annoy gamers like this.
 
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That's the long method to jump to the top. The new method is to spawn as a new commander in Asellus Primus. Jump onto Discord wing missions. Plead with a few commanders that you need help to start. Join their wing. Cash in 50 mil. Repeat 20 times. Pocket 1 billion in something like less than an hour of playtime, then go and grind your ranks for the Cutter in whatever ship you want.
 
The most important would be tracking how long in time (total) you actually need for this. wihtin a "Few" day is not any kind of refference, (...) a true "time spent ingame" timeframe is a much more important reference.

Fair enough. As I didn't count how much time I spent exactly I can just give an estimate. More than 8 hrs, less than 15 hrs. I had like 6 sessions, shortest was an hour or so, longest was about 3 hrs. Av. ~12 hrs.


also, what starting conditions had your 3 ranks? there is still a difference between starting at ZERO rank or full rank, when speaking abut the outcoming rewards.

When I arrived at my spot I was FRIENDLY with Empire and had rank of NONE (0). Local factions were strangers, as any factions who you meet for the first time. First mission run (depending on how many missions I had from given faction) ended with CORDIAL or even FRIENDLY. Trip back usually meant ALLIED with local faction. At that point I was still rank NONE (0) with Empire as I haven't filled FRIENDLY with Empire. Couple of runs later I was ALLIED with EMPIRE and I could start working my rep toward Duke.

But at that point local factions were giving me bonuses ranging from 40k to 180k with 20k increments. With about 10-15 missions popping bonus I saw: 40k, 60k, 80k, 100k, 120k, 140k, 160k and 180k. Usually it was 40-60k and 120 / 180k, those middle ground (60 to 100k) were more rare. But rep was all I cared and tho nice, credit reward was pure bonus.

Overall local faction rank wasn't that relevant as you can hit allied within two - three trips.



That's the long method to jump to the top. The new method is to spawn as a new commander in Asellus Primus. Jump onto Discord wing missions. Plead with a few commanders that you need help to start. Join their wing. Cash in 50 mil. Repeat 20 times. Pocket 1 billion in something like less than an hour of playtime, then go and grind your ranks for the Cutter in whatever ship you want.

Well, looks like I prefer the journey more. Also - not a new player and somewhat unwilling atm to clear save just to repeat all the process. I have achieved few things and for now I'd like to keep it. Tho maybe I should pay that Discord a visit. Haven't participated in social part of this game much and I'd surely would use some extra credits.

Made quick and rough estimation. 150M for the Clipper to outfit it the way I like and another 600M for Cutter and her outfitting. That 1B within an hour sounds just about right.
 
Why do people always bring up Ceos/Sothis? There's any number of better places to grind out Federal rep without jumping out to the boondocks.

Also there's next to no reason to delay rank-up missions....

Because those who know of better places to do these missions do NOT tell the rest of the forums ,hence only Ceos and Sothis :)
So, enlighten us and post a few good locations to do these missions(a pair of locations for back and forth missions please)
 
Because those who know of better places to do these missions do NOT tell the rest of the forums ,hence only Ceos and Sothis :)
So, enlighten us and post a few good locations to do these missions(a pair of locations for back and forth missions please)

I just look for Fed systems with lot of Fed factions in a state of boom, then when allied expect lots of missions.

Okinura would be a good bet at the moment, 4 Fed factions all in boom - https://inara.cz/galaxy-starsystem/12020/ pick one of the nearest systems on the right to see other Feds in boom and there would be a good two way bet.

The best systems are always changing state, Ceos/Sothis is only ever mentioned because Federation data missions can only ever be between those two systems as there is nothing else Federation close within 299 hundred light years.

Ps. Disclaimer, I have never been to Okinura to know what goes on there. But that's the sort of system I'd look at.
 
Because those who know of better places to do these missions do NOT tell the rest of the forums ,hence only Ceos and Sothis :)
So, enlighten us and post a few good locations to do these missions(a pair of locations for back and forth missions please)


The problem is CMDRs may need these location for future endeavours so lips are sealed for fear of the Nerf bat.

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Why do people always bring up Ceos/Sothis? There's any number of better places to grind out Federal rep without jumping out to the boondocks.

Also there's next to no reason to delay rank-up missions....

Ceos/Sothis is like ... max 5 jumps in an engineered dbx ... so i guess i do not really consider it the "boondocks"
 
Because those who know of better places to do these missions do NOT tell the rest of the forums ,hence only Ceos and Sothis :)

The problem is CMDRs may need these location for future endeavours so lips are sealed for fear of the Nerf bat.

https://medias.spotern.com/spots/w640/57229.jpg

The truth of it.

It's not a problem if no one knows, and as such no one cares and no NERF $$$$ threads appear all over reddit and offcial ED forums. Silent and secret is serene and tranquil... Everyone loves tranquil :D

EDIT: think people would share things more if threads and the care police didn't get on their law-steeds to destroy that being shared :(
 
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Why do people always bring up Ceos/Sothis? There's any number of better places to grind out Federal rep without jumping out to the boondocks.

Also there's next to no reason to delay rank-up missions....
But out there yonder in the boondocks is where the Federal Banjo Brigade twangs the loudest! *Deliverance Tune*
 
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I originally wanted to get an imperial courier since it was my favorite in FFE. When it was a disappointment, I started ranking for the iclipper, and besides it being disproportionately ugly and awkward I then made it my primary goal to get up to the cutter, then it took at least half a year steadily gaining the credits primarily in a FGS until I could finally purchase it and mostly a-rate it. I wish there was the T-10 back then as I was repulsed by the anaconda and only had it a few days before selling it back. Well, that's my cutter story shortened. I primarily use my cutter more than any ship in the past year.

As for finding a boost in credits, it looks like winged missions could be a way to go since they can pay a lot with allied factions currently. If you (OP) haven't done so yet, there's still "road to riches" routes which can give up to a 300 million boost and it looks like it may never be nerfed since it's working as intended. Good luck on your cutter goals.
 
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I've been playing for over 2 years and I just finally got a Cutter. Was in no rush. I like it, but honestly there are a lot better ships out there.

If you want to grind fed rank go to the heart of the Fed where you have 4 or 5 Fed affiliated factions per a system. I recommend Barnard's Stat Boston Base to work out of. All systems are really close together there.
 
The truth of it.

It's not a problem if no one knows, and as such no one cares and no NERF $$$$ threads appear all over reddit and offcial ED forums. Silent and secret is serene and tranquil... Everyone loves tranquil :D

EDIT: think people would share things more if threads and the care police didn't get on their law-steeds to destroy that being shared :(

like the Magic planet

for those in the know ;)
 
LOL even I don't know about the magic planet one..

I do know about the NPC I dubbed "Mr Whacko" offering to buy a certain commodity for 766,000 cr / unit ;)


haha.... not many do otherwise there would be outrage, and 551,520,000 cr per cargo hold full would also cause outrage so keep quiet about mr whacko too
 
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