If someone from Fdev streams themselves unlocking all the Guardian tech. I will eat my eye patch.

[Alikat]

Lots of telco's are letting copper rot in the ground.

We'll regret it.



I can arrange a twelve week vacation for him, at Parris Island.

Copper lasts a long time. I work for a rural telco with some old farm houses still using 19 gauge twisted copper pairs put in during the 1940s, if not further back.

Also fiber is prohibitively expensive in a lot of places, for example my community is about 12,000 households spread out over an area of 90 square miles. To run fiber to all of them would take the better part of a decade and cost over 60 million dollars. Even with some heavy infrastructure loans and a high take rate on fiber optic packages, making that work from a financial aspect is incredibly difficult.

VDSL is a decent solution in the interim but it requires the household be well under a mile from an Orm/Cabinet. Which once again.. rural area, stuff is spread out.

 

[Jex =TE=]

Copper lasts a long time. I work for a rural telco with some old farm houses still using 19 gauge twisted copper pairs put in during the 1940s, if not further back.

Also fiber is prohibitively expensive in a lot of places, for example my community is about 12,000 households spread out over an area of 90 square miles. To run fiber to all of them would take the better part of a decade and cost over 60 million dollars. Even with some heavy infrastructure loans and a high take rate on fiber optic packages, making that work from a financial aspect is incredibly difficult.

VDSL is a decent solution in the interim but it requires the household be well under a mile from an Orm/Cabinet. Which once again.. rural area, stuff is spread out.

Which telecom company do you work for that isn't making hundreds of millions or even billions in profit each year?

 

[bitstorm]

If FDEV do this it should be done without referring to any 3rd party resource or how to.

No looking up where to find stuff.

Also no logoff/logon.

Please play the game and do the missions "as intended".

Simply, go get the Guardian Power Plant, off you go.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Criticism towards a feature, or a piece of content, or a gameplay element is not conditioned by how much or how well it connects to other bits of the game.

If the inbound Krait spaceship in-game model turns out to be some D-shaped monstrosity full of veins with clown shoes for landing gear and a spoiler stolen from the Type-10, you bet your I'm still going to criticize it no matter how much people will try to convince me that I don't have to acquire it in-game if I don't like it.

That I don't deny. I have criticised the guardian module requirements myself. I would have much preferred a better solution then what is on offer. But as I don't like what is on offer and none of it is required to play the game, I can happily ignore it.

I provide constructive criticism of It, and that is all we can do.

Going on and on about it as it you can't do anything else in the game is just stupid.

Well done for missing the point, again.

Then maybe you shoud learn to write properly then as I can see no other point you are trying to make.

 

[Skeloton]

Going on and on about it as it you can't do anything else in the game is just stupid.

People said the same about the lootbox craze, now a lot of games are either refraining from adding them or removing them from their games.

Also, you could follow your own "advice" and ignore this thread.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

People said the same about the lootbox craze, now a lot of games are either refraining from adding them or removing them from their games.

Also, you could follow your own "advice" and ignore this thread.

But there some constructive parts to the thread. And I will call out people lie or have no idea what they are talking about.

 

[biot]

Well, you found the provider I use myself. Where high speed internet... is still a century away.

Yeah been there done that. The last place I lived we started off with Sprint ... then Embarq ... then CenturyLink. So the letterhead on the bill changed but not much else. We were out in the sticks so it took forever for even DSL to turn up. And when it did it I think they must have gotten the oldest DSLAM they had in their inventory, or got one from eBay, and installed it in a ditch. If it rained we lost service. Oh I do miss those days. Not.

 

[vidslo]

Perhaps if they didn't have effective monopolies with no choice available to most rural customers at all, and many municipalities locked into dubious contracts the telco may or may not properly fulfill, we would finally get a much needed infrastructure upgrade throughout the USA.

I'm sure that's just a pipe dream, but it's a nice dream.

I'm eagerly waiting for SpaceX's satellite internet as my only choice is 4/1 centurylink DSL. We're at the bleeding edge of their local hub, even though 3 miles away in town, there's cable/fiber internet from centurylink, comcast, and a couple others.

My neighbors and I looked into what it'd take to get our lines upgraded and were told that if we forked over more than $100k, they would install new lines for us.

These companies are making billions, yet when it comes to investing in expanding their infrastructure, they simply have not interest unless they're able to make $ from day one of service by pawning the "investment" costs off to the consumer.

And thanks to Ajit Pai, it's only going to get worse...

 

[Jenner]

Let's stay on topic please. Rural broadband access, although an important subject, is not really the topic of this thread.

 

[SpaceScania]

I am pretty confident that the near universal response to this new content will cause Frontier to make some changes to the way we get these blueprints. Not sure when this will happen (3.1 hopefully?) but yeah there is a pretty clear consensus that this needs to change.

 

[Skeloton]

I am pretty confident that the near universal response to this new content will cause Frontier to make some changes to the way we get these blueprints. Not sure when this will happen (3.1 hopefully?) but yeah there is a pretty clear consensus that this needs to change.

3.1 is way too soon to see that level of change. 3.4 or 4.0 would be more realistic because the reason why they rely on severe repetion and RNG is a lack of content. I mean varied content. Repetive gameplay is usually just padding not the main chunk of gameplay.
There simply isnt a lot of things to engage in or be engaged with that is meaningful, currently its a lot of aimless meandering.

 

[SpaceScania]

3.1 is way too soon to see that level of change. 3.4 or 4.0 would be more realistic because the reason why they rely on severe repetion and RNG is a lack of content. I mean varied content. Repetive gameplay is usually just padding not the main chunk of gameplay.
There simply isnt a lot of things to engage in or be engaged with that is meaningful, currently its a lot of aimless meandering.

They can reduce the grind in various ways easily in 3.1 if they want to. It’s pretty obvious the community is quite displeased with the new content, they’ll react here.

 

[Skeloton]

They can reduce the grind in various ways easily in 3.1 if they want to. It’s pretty obvious the community is quite displeased with the new content, they’ll react here.

Definitely, have the sites drop one blueprint then have the item require just one. However, how quickly do you think people would burn through that sliver of content if it were the case. If/when they release a bunch more guardian gear might they do something like that.

Considering that said gear is slightly under performing compared to engineered gear, it seems fair to do that. Like you go out, get those blueprints, grab the other stuff and get the gear onto your ship. After all that slowly upgrade to engineered stuff and phase out the guardian gear.

But as it stands and like how many have said, its a better more (albeit not much more) enjoyable spendature of my time engineering my stuff from the get go.

 

[Bryan K]

They can reduce the grind in various ways easily in 3.1 if they want to. It’s pretty obvious the community is quite displeased with the new content, they’ll react here.

Still not a single meaningful peep from them on the subject, so I doubt it.

FDev likes for problems like this to fester for a good long while so that we praise them when they finally release a fix.

 

[SpaceScania]

Still not a single meaningful peep from them on the subject, so I doubt it.

FDev likes for problems like this to fester for a good long while so that we praise them when they finally release a fix.

They seem to be in a bit of a cone of silence overall at the moment, probably in part because they are moving to their new HQ. But yeah they can't have failed to notice the overwhelming response to this new content. We'll find out here once they are ready to re-engage with the community.

 

[Soon(TM)]

Sandro, most likely. He’s responsible for most of the poor design choices in 3.0 (grindgeneering, KWS re-work, etc.).

Whoever's fault it is, should be made to play the entire new "feature" from start to end, so they know what they're releasing to the public.

 

[Soon(TM)]

They're "making the game they want to play!!"

I wonder what's more of a grind, writing the code that makes the new features or playing the new features?

 

[vidslo]

Definitely, have the sites drop one blueprint then have the item require just one. However, how quickly do you think people would burn through that sliver of content if it were the case. If/when they release a bunch more guardian gear might they do something like that.

Considering that said gear is slightly under performing compared to engineered gear, it seems fair to do that. Like you go out, get those blueprints, grab the other stuff and get the gear onto your ship. After all that slowly upgrade to engineered stuff and phase out the guardian gear.

But as it stands and like how many have said, its a better more (albeit not much more) enjoyable spendature of my time engineering my stuff from the get go.

I'll be curious as well to see how, when, and (most importantly) IF they address this.

The mix bag of guardian equipment does have me a bit perplexed.

Guardian weapons are unique and great Thargoids and the FSD boosters, when reintroduced, should be a nice add-on for jump range.

The PP and PD seem to be in a weird place. As mentioned, they're not as good as G5 engineered modules, but the access to them from a 'new' player is a bit easier than what's needed for engineer access, though it's not a walk-in-the-park given the grind and distance to get to the sites with unengineered ships.

IMO, (I think I said this elsewhere too) I would say a good 'balance' to the guardian PP/PD would be removal of the 4 experimental weapon limit when both are equipped. You get 'extra' power to run more of the modules, but have to take more heat and weight as a balance to the removal of the limit.

It'd make for a 'goid slaying machine, but there would be the trade-offs mentioned above. What it would also do though, is offer a reason for unlocking both for all players, regardless of whether they've unlocked engineers.

 

[znôrt]

I wonder what's more of a grind, writing the code that makes the new features or playing the new features?

in order of decreasing tedium: the grooming, the planing, the retrospective, the post mortem, the stand-ups. writing code is never a grind or you are at the wrong place.

oh, and i ignore what you call 'new features', so zero grind there.

樂

wut?

 

[Enderby]

If they are making the game that they want to play you would think that they would be eager to showcase it.