Until FD releases a football bobble head
Why Not Play Another Game?
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Until FD releases a football bobble head
rootsrat
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@OP - I sometimes advise this to people on these forums. When all I see from a person is constant complaints and they've been here for 3 years, it's clear to me they want a completely different game than the one FDEV are making. If that's the case, I don't see any other advice for them than to get over the fact that ED will never be the game they want, so perhaps they should simply play something else. Alternatively accept the fact that Elite is what it is.
To give you my own example - I purchased 2 games: one called Rust and the other one Ark: Survival Evolved. After putting some hours into them, they turned out to be something completely different than I thought they'd be. Instead of going to their forums and crying about it and demanding the developers to change those games to something I wanted them to be, I've just accepted the fact that those games are just not for me. I simply don't enjoy them at all.
I can understand that someone has a passion for Elite and they like most aspects of it, but don't enjoy a few others and they are complaining about it. But if the only enjoyable part of the game is, say, flight model and the fact that it happens in space - and the rest is just something they would like to change, because they don't enjoy it, I say they just chose a wrong game to play and they should think of playing something else.
And the fact that there is nothing else like Elite at the moment? Well tough, if they know so well what Elite should be and is not and will never be, perhaps they should start their own KS campaign, get the funds and make the game they've always dreamt of.
So while I agree that the "go play something else" advice can be often overused, it's not often the case, because sometimes there simply isn't any other advice one can give.
To give you my own example - I purchased 2 games: one called Rust and the other one Ark: Survival Evolved. After putting some hours into them, they turned out to be something completely different than I thought they'd be. Instead of going to their forums and crying about it and demanding the developers to change those games to something I wanted them to be, I've just accepted the fact that those games are just not for me. I simply don't enjoy them at all.
I can understand that someone has a passion for Elite and they like most aspects of it, but don't enjoy a few others and they are complaining about it. But if the only enjoyable part of the game is, say, flight model and the fact that it happens in space - and the rest is just something they would like to change, because they don't enjoy it, I say they just chose a wrong game to play and they should think of playing something else.
And the fact that there is nothing else like Elite at the moment? Well tough, if they know so well what Elite should be and is not and will never be, perhaps they should start their own KS campaign, get the funds and make the game they've always dreamt of.
So while I agree that the "go play something else" advice can be often overused, it's not often the case, because sometimes there simply isn't any other advice one can give.
We don't call it football, we call it SRV-Orb.
It doesn't matter that they have zero correlation - all games have things in common - they're games for one thing and they're meant to be fun as well. Pointing out how PUBG is being updated has everything to do with game design, so it directly correlates to ED. It's pointing out how adding good things to a game is good for the game.
Then we have an example of how to do netcode. ED fails miserably at this whereas practically every other game dev have no issues making sure players stay connected. In the case of PUBG that's 100 players. How many can ED reliably maintain - 16 in the same instance? And not in the same ship - most people have huge issues with MC.
Ah yes, death by gargoyle was it? Damn, I need to rerere...replay Skyrim soon too.
There are other games out there,
Anyone who wants to play as a space mogul X3 got an update a few months ago and now supports X-box controllers. A new version is also under development.
For campaign based space sims, the x-wing games are all on steam (I think) and freespace2 is freeware with loads of top quality mods.
Guildies always have EVE, which was designed specifically to cater to their desires.
rootsrat
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True that, however I really meant new games
Saying that, X3 is still perfectly playable, modern game.
True that, however I really meant new games
Saying that, X3 is still perfectly playable, modern game.
If you have a look at egosofts website there's an official bonus plugin that adds afterburners and employable pilots who can be set to follow trading loops picking up from your stations and selling your stuff or resupplying your ships, as they gain experience you can give them jumpdrives. They can also be set to transport hub materials for Bala Gi automatically which was one of the most epic grinds in gaming history so you can get the HQ without losing the will to live.
Hang on linky incoming.
Edit : voila
I use the all in one bonus package, you will need to read up on auto traders (commodity logistics/commercial agents) to get them up and running.
https://www.egosoft.com/download/x3tc/bonus_en.php
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rootsrat
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I don't think I'll be coming back to X series anytime soon. I don't really have the time for that anymore... They are great games though and there are a LOT of mods to make them even better, including ship cockpits, to make it more immersive.
Vladmir Romanyuk? Who? Lemmie just search.... oh, Space Engine, I've heard that mentioned quite a few times. Hmm... maybe a YouTube search and.... Oh. My. G.....
[video=youtube;Ofmo_ecJ2ZU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=244&v=Ofmo_ecJ2ZU[/video]
Oh, great.... you've just ruined ED for me. Thanks a bunch Duck. [big grin]
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I crank it up whenever I get the urge to oversee my vast empire, and direct fleets about from my personal nuke equipped carrier. But it doesn't fly anywhere near as nicely as ED (being a mogul focused game), so I rarely bother.
I came late to the ED party. I knew what I was in for but wasn't ready for how much I'd love it.
But that is how it goes. Otherwise the Stalker-games have been my longest love affair. Shadows over Chernobyl, the first one, took me over completely. That is also a niche series that many despise due to confusion and clunkiness. It is totally immersive in its world and I lived and breathed it for years with the sequels and mods. I have also been deeply into Arma which also had its detractors due to tediousness (walk for an hour, get shot in your head) and complex controls.
I think "boring" mechanics which lead to a lot of downtime in action is important (for me) since it draws me into the world. Slightly wonky controls can create realism in that you have to master those limitations and react with determination and a cool head. Much like reality where I inhabit a physical body whose bulk and limberness always must be in mind whenever I do something active.
I play lots of games. My steam library has 260+ games. My first console was Pong. I had Elite on my Spectrum 48k and played it with a Quickshot stick after my sisters dog ate my Atari controller. Most triple A games leave me cold. Much like I just shrug at the marvel movies and instead adore the movies of Tarkowski. I find most modern games are so anxious to keep the player distracted and rushing you along. This goes even for rts-games that wont let me play in peace but keeps throwing stuff in my face in fear that I might loose interest.
I also played WoW religiously but by the third expansion it had turned into a oversaturated themepark with loads of differently tricked out rides clamoring for attention and I logged out for ever not looking back. I felt it lost its way trying to cater to everyones needs.
There are so many other games I play but most of them are like 20 hour movies that leave no mark. Elite is one of those few that stand out as its own entity and manages to spark my imagination. Sure it's not perfection. But I do not seek a game to make me feel complete. Anyone who's been around since the dawn of video gaming knows that a game can be a obtuse scrapheap of bugs and inconsistancies and still be a soulful gem, while another might be a super polished slick candymachine and still not spark the least inspiration or more than a passing distraction.
Not since vanilla wow have I played with the same enthusiasm as I do Elite. Sure, I sometimes feel exhausted by the countdowns and jumpsounds and general repetition. But this weariness I feel about a lot of things in real life too.
I have lived long enough to not seek fulfilment in anything outside myself and my own experiences and that ennui will come and go whatever I am doing.
And if a game makes me angry or sad I do not blame the game but look at myself and how I am living.
Sometimes the only way to win is to not play the game.
But that is how it goes. Otherwise the Stalker-games have been my longest love affair. Shadows over Chernobyl, the first one, took me over completely. That is also a niche series that many despise due to confusion and clunkiness. It is totally immersive in its world and I lived and breathed it for years with the sequels and mods. I have also been deeply into Arma which also had its detractors due to tediousness (walk for an hour, get shot in your head) and complex controls.
I think "boring" mechanics which lead to a lot of downtime in action is important (for me) since it draws me into the world. Slightly wonky controls can create realism in that you have to master those limitations and react with determination and a cool head. Much like reality where I inhabit a physical body whose bulk and limberness always must be in mind whenever I do something active.
I play lots of games. My steam library has 260+ games. My first console was Pong. I had Elite on my Spectrum 48k and played it with a Quickshot stick after my sisters dog ate my Atari controller. Most triple A games leave me cold. Much like I just shrug at the marvel movies and instead adore the movies of Tarkowski. I find most modern games are so anxious to keep the player distracted and rushing you along. This goes even for rts-games that wont let me play in peace but keeps throwing stuff in my face in fear that I might loose interest.
I also played WoW religiously but by the third expansion it had turned into a oversaturated themepark with loads of differently tricked out rides clamoring for attention and I logged out for ever not looking back. I felt it lost its way trying to cater to everyones needs.
There are so many other games I play but most of them are like 20 hour movies that leave no mark. Elite is one of those few that stand out as its own entity and manages to spark my imagination. Sure it's not perfection. But I do not seek a game to make me feel complete. Anyone who's been around since the dawn of video gaming knows that a game can be a obtuse scrapheap of bugs and inconsistancies and still be a soulful gem, while another might be a super polished slick candymachine and still not spark the least inspiration or more than a passing distraction.
Not since vanilla wow have I played with the same enthusiasm as I do Elite. Sure, I sometimes feel exhausted by the countdowns and jumpsounds and general repetition. But this weariness I feel about a lot of things in real life too.
I have lived long enough to not seek fulfilment in anything outside myself and my own experiences and that ennui will come and go whatever I am doing.
And if a game makes me angry or sad I do not blame the game but look at myself and how I am living.
Sometimes the only way to win is to not play the game.
I know. I KNOW.
That video and the other incredible SE videos should be burned into Frontier's environment designer devs' eyeballs by this point.
But they either haven't noticed that some lone Russian dude has out-done them in terms of environment graphics (especially in making planets etc. look true-to-life)... or they just aren't focused on improving the status quo in that way
Here's another incredible one, possibly my favourite:
[video=youtube;b1O3XCsGnC8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1O3XCsGnC8[/video]
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The one you want is the star wars mod for it, if you have a beefy PC...
Is it the standard flight model or is it tweaked at all ?.
From my experience it's the standard flight model. but it really does look cool & there are some huge ships (these are the ones that require the beefy PC)
http://www.moddb.com/mods/mikhail-skatchkov
It's not perfect, there are bugs it still works really well.
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Thanks I'll give it a bash.
Just in case you want to see what it's like TheXPGamers (CaptainShack) has a very good series on an earlier version of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RIvIGHng0o&list=PLP268ZfwD7Hmbf5I_fBHq2kuddeDEPPkw
The modder actually makes changes as he progresses through the series to make it more lore relevant.
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The game seems to be in maintenance mode.
The upshot of the 10 year plan (read, shoestring funding) is the kind of frustrations we read here.
take a look at dual universe